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Post by fanboy on Feb 13, 2024 12:49:32 GMT
I never post on here, but felt inclined to do so because I'm finding myself baffled by some of the stuff that I read from Gasheads lately.
The narrative from fans on social media and this forum paints a picture of a club in complete disarray, at risk of going bust, with owners that compare similarly to Readings that are bleeding out the club.
And for sure, in games this season, I've left disappointed. We could be doing better in the league and are missing an opportunity, with that I agree and am frustrated.
But there's a level of hysteria which I can't seem to understand. We are 12th in the league. Slap bang mid-table. In League One. From my lifetime of supporting Rovers (I'm 30), I am struggling to comprehend why that position would cause any level of concern from fans.
It's certainly not where I want to see us in the future, but when considering the last five years.. I'm pretty pleased to be there!
At times this season we have shown real promise that we can compete at the top end of this league. But we have been inconsistent, injury ridden, and clearly have to become more resolute at the back.
Frustrating when considering our ambitions of getting to the Championship, sure. But people talk about the club like it's in the worst shape of its life.
Yet I see a new training ground undergoing consistent improvement, significant investment in the playing squad, our first new stand ("temporary" or not) that I can remember.
It genuinely seems to me that we are a club moving in the right direction. The likes of Grimsby fans must look at us taking their star man with extreme jealousy.
Things have not been perfect at the club, clearly there are many areas of improvement both on and off the pitch. But compared to what I can remember over the last 30 years.. it hasn't been better!
Is there anyone else that is actually feeling pretty positive about the way we are going?!
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 13, 2024 13:00:14 GMT
This is a better effort than the letter put out tbf.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Feb 13, 2024 13:39:41 GMT
"I never post on here", 2544 posts say differently?
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Post by rememberhalifax on Feb 13, 2024 13:40:32 GMT
Well said, Always positive about Rovers me, some times more positive than others, but everyday is good ,, we have had far worse times than now and a few times when things were even better, plenty of football fans would like their club to be where we are, Torquay, Scunthorpe, Bury and so on and before any one says that lacks ambition well ambition for many clubs at our level is to survive! and 'NO' I have no ambition or desire to be in the premier league, if it ever happened que sera, but it is not an ambition i have for the club.
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Post by fanboy on Feb 13, 2024 13:42:21 GMT
"I never post on here", 2544 posts say differently? "Create a thread on here", then. If that's the most important bit of my post, I mean thread. |
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Post by perryfenwick on Feb 13, 2024 13:44:37 GMT
The narrative of most clubs' fans on social media is one of crisis. Save for a few exceptions, Man City and their money, Wrexham and theirs, and maybe Luton, who can't believe their luck, everyone thinks the bad times are coming. Social media is the new version of places like this, which in turn was the new version of moaning down the pub.
As usual, whether the club is on an upward or downward curve is down to money, results, and the fan experience.
Money is clearly being spent. The South Stand is here, and we spent circa £300k on a player. Okay, we then got £750k back for another one, but if the money spent on journeymen by the previous manager is replicated by spending allowed by Taylor, we should be alright.
Results - multiple home defeats and crap performances always drive folk bananas. Before Conteh signed we lost on a Tuesday night and then a good few ITKs with contacts up on high had their stories given to them, ready to go, about how we were doing X and not doing Y. Then we signed a player, loaned a few more, won an away game and we were HMS P155 The League again.
The fan experience is the key. Most Rovers fans aren't desperate for the 1st tier or even the 2nd - we'll be here either way and we were there in the bloody conference - but what takes the water is £36 tickets, £26 terracing, pasty hut's run out of everything, debit cards don't work, mould on the urinal walls, doors hanging off the loos, and so on.
Fix those little things - which cost a fraction of one player's wage - and folk will be happier.
Hussein's letter was Fine - the sort of thing we'll criticise him for sending and for not sending. It's obviously a rallying cry towards the end of a dead season before the increased price STs come put but at least its not one with a marketing video for a new stadium that was already dead when released!
Long story short - if we're all miserable we're far from alone, and you can't change all of it - but the little things go a long way.
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Feb 13, 2024 14:25:00 GMT
The problem with forums/social media is you can have a debate on a negative or several negative issues , and because it is protracted , paints a picture of total doom and gloom.
It is certainly not that at Rovers , but there are glaring gaffs which quite rightly have been put under the lens. The JCH debacle ( intentional or not ) was incompetence of the highest
order, the stand fiasco with pp ,the appointment of JB ( great in lg2 not so lg1) , the court cases drawing attention to the club.
Now I know most clubs go through similar , but when you balance it out over the positives ( not many imo ) this is how it looks.
We sit mid table , ok but not great. Not somewhere I want to stay ,but considering (pre 2000) we were never 3 or 4 seasons from either a promotion to the 2nd tier, or a play off birth ( plain old 3rd
to 6th pre 1987) we havn't come close in 24 years!! The club needs to put some of the promises into practice , hence the disgruntled fan base.
I agree , we are not in a bad place , but forums etc are there to vent your spleen , no matter how big or small the problem.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Feb 13, 2024 14:39:10 GMT
Much of the problem I think is that expectations were raised for the first time in years. I for one was really looking forward forward to the season. Sadly it hasn't worked out, and we are left with fans feeling let down, disillusioned, angry etc.... When in reality we are mid table with nothing to play for, it's what happens when expectations are raised. The football at this moment is really poor, the results have followed suit, I can understand fans getting angry paying good money,to watch substandard football. We just need a bit of direction, improve performances, just get back a bit of positivity. Just hope we can get things together sooner rather than later on the pitch.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 13, 2024 14:41:27 GMT
I never post on here, but felt inclined to do so because I'm finding myself baffled by some of the stuff that I read from Gasheads lately. The narrative from fans on social media and this forum paints a picture of a club in complete disarray, at risk of going bust, with owners that compare similarly to Readings that are bleeding out the club. And for sure, in games this season, I've left disappointed. We could be doing better in the league and are missing an opportunity, with that I agree and am frustrated. But there's a level of hysteria which I can't seem to understand. We are 12th in the league. Slap bang mid-table. In League One. From my lifetime of supporting Rovers (I'm 30), I am struggling to comprehend why that position would cause any level of concern from fans. It's certainly not where I want to see us in the future, but when considering the last five years.. I'm pretty pleased to be there! At times this season we have shown real promise that we can compete at the top end of this league. But we have been inconsistent, injury ridden, and clearly have to become more resolute at the back. Frustrating when considering our ambitions of getting to the Championship, sure. But people talk about the club like it's in the worst shape of its life. Yet I see a new training ground undergoing consistent improvement, significant investment in the playing squad, our first new stand ("temporary" or not) that I can remember. It genuinely seems to me that we are a club moving in the right direction. The likes of Grimsby fans must look at us taking their star man with extreme jealousy. Things have not been perfect at the club, clearly there are many areas of improvement both on and off the pitch. But compared to what I can remember over the last 30 years.. it hasn't been better! Is there anyone else that is actually feeling pretty positive about the way we are going?! You get a few drama queens suggesting the end is nigh ( especially after a few defeats) but I’d imagine it’s pretty much the same at most clubs. Empty vessels make the most noise. |
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Post by SleepyGas on Feb 13, 2024 14:46:11 GMT
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 13, 2024 14:46:35 GMT
I never post on here, but felt inclined to do so because I'm finding myself baffled by some of the stuff that I read from Gasheads lately. The narrative from fans on social media and this forum paints a picture of a club in complete disarray, at risk of going bust, with owners that compare similarly to Readings that are bleeding out the club. And for sure, in games this season, I've left disappointed. We could be doing better in the league and are missing an opportunity, with that I agree and am frustrated. But there's a level of hysteria which I can't seem to understand. We are 12th in the league. Slap bang mid-table. In League One. From my lifetime of supporting Rovers (I'm 30), I am struggling to comprehend why that position would cause any level of concern from fans. It's certainly not where I want to see us in the future, but when considering the last five years.. I'm pretty pleased to be there! At times this season we have shown real promise that we can compete at the top end of this league. But we have been inconsistent, injury ridden, and clearly have to become more resolute at the back. Frustrating when considering our ambitions of getting to the Championship, sure. But people talk about the club like it's in the worst shape of its life. Yet I see a new training ground undergoing consistent improvement, significant investment in the playing squad, our first new stand ("temporary" or not) that I can remember. It genuinely seems to me that we are a club moving in the right direction. The likes of Grimsby fans must look at us taking their star man with extreme jealousy. Things have not been perfect at the club, clearly there are many areas of improvement both on and off the pitch. But compared to what I can remember over the last 30 years.. it hasn't been better! Is there anyone else that is actually feeling pretty positive about the way we are going?! Absolutely. Things have been a lot worse, and we are moving in the right direction, but it won’t happen overnight. And to reinforce your point about the new stand; temporary it may be, but it’s the first thing we have built since the North Stand at Eastville in 1958. That’s 66 years ago. Say that slowly. Now that might be a damning indictment of previous Boards (although we all know how difficult it is to get things done in Bristol) but it’s certainly not the fault of the current Board. |
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Post by SleepyGas on Feb 13, 2024 14:47:59 GMT
Absolutely. Things have been a lot worse, and we are moving in the right direction, but it won’t happen overnight. And to reinforce your point about the new stand; temporary it may be, but it’s the first thing we have built since the North Stand at Eastville in 1958. That’s 66 years ago. Say that slowly. Now that might be a damning indictment of previous Boards (although we all know how difficult it is to get things done in Bristol) but it’s certainly not the fault of the current Board. & no longer a tent in sight!!! |
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 13, 2024 14:50:22 GMT
Absolutely. Things have been a lot worse, and we are moving in the right direction, but it won’t happen overnight. And to reinforce your point about the new stand; temporary it may be, but it’s the first thing we have built since the North Stand at Eastville in 1958. That’s 66 years ago. Say that slowly. Now that might be a damning indictment of previous Boards (although we all know how difficult it is to get things done in Bristol) but it’s certainly not the fault of the current Board. & no longer a tent in sight!!! Past tents. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 13, 2024 15:13:03 GMT
I never post on here, but felt inclined to do so because I'm finding myself baffled by some of the stuff that I read from Gasheads lately. The narrative from fans on social media and this forum paints a picture of a club in complete disarray, at risk of going bust, with owners that compare similarly to Readings that are bleeding out the club. And for sure, in games this season, I've left disappointed. We could be doing better in the league and are missing an opportunity, with that I agree and am frustrated. But there's a level of hysteria which I can't seem to understand. We are 12th in the league. Slap bang mid-table. In League One. From my lifetime of supporting Rovers (I'm 30), I am struggling to comprehend why that position would cause any level of concern from fans. It's certainly not where I want to see us in the future, but when considering the last five years.. I'm pretty pleased to be there! At times this season we have shown real promise that we can compete at the top end of this league. But we have been inconsistent, injury ridden, and clearly have to become more resolute at the back. Frustrating when considering our ambitions of getting to the Championship, sure. But people talk about the club like it's in the worst shape of its life. Yet I see a new training ground undergoing consistent improvement, significant investment in the playing squad, our first new stand ("temporary" or not) that I can remember. It genuinely seems to me that we are a club moving in the right direction. The likes of Grimsby fans must look at us taking their star man with extreme jealousy. Things have not been perfect at the club, clearly there are many areas of improvement both on and off the pitch. But compared to what I can remember over the last 30 years.. it hasn't been better! Is there anyone else that is actually feeling pretty positive about the way we are going?! Why ignore one of the main issues, the new owners sacked JB as he was apparently underperforming but his replacement is starting to do even worse, we went from a football side under JB to, what appears anyway, to be GC type football under MT even though we don't seem to have players who can play that way. Also whilst the new owners talk about a Mem redevelopment etc there's no signs that's taking place nor how it's going to be funded. |
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 13, 2024 15:25:57 GMT
I never post on here, but felt inclined to do so because I'm finding myself baffled by some of the stuff that I read from Gasheads lately. The narrative from fans on social media and this forum paints a picture of a club in complete disarray, at risk of going bust, with owners that compare similarly to Readings that are bleeding out the club. And for sure, in games this season, I've left disappointed. We could be doing better in the league and are missing an opportunity, with that I agree and am frustrated. But there's a level of hysteria which I can't seem to understand. We are 12th in the league. Slap bang mid-table. In League One. From my lifetime of supporting Rovers (I'm 30), I am struggling to comprehend why that position would cause any level of concern from fans. It's certainly not where I want to see us in the future, but when considering the last five years.. I'm pretty pleased to be there! At times this season we have shown real promise that we can compete at the top end of this league. But we have been inconsistent, injury ridden, and clearly have to become more resolute at the back. Frustrating when considering our ambitions of getting to the Championship, sure. But people talk about the club like it's in the worst shape of its life. Yet I see a new training ground undergoing consistent improvement, significant investment in the playing squad, our first new stand ("temporary" or not) that I can remember. It genuinely seems to me that we are a club moving in the right direction. The likes of Grimsby fans must look at us taking their star man with extreme jealousy. Things have not been perfect at the club, clearly there are many areas of improvement both on and off the pitch. But compared to what I can remember over the last 30 years.. it hasn't been better! Is there anyone else that is actually feeling pretty positive about the way we are going?! Why ignore one of the main issues, the new owners sacked JB as he was apparently underperforming but his replacement is starting to do even worse, we went from a football side under JB to, what appears anyway, to be GC type football under MT even though we don't seem to have players who can play that way. Also whilst the new owners talk about a Mem redevelopment etc there's no signs that's taking place nor how it's going to be funded. First point, it’s not Matt Taylor’s side. He’s trying to get the best out of a very poorly recruited squad. If everything in the garden had been rosy, JB wouldn’t have been sacked. Your second point beggars belief. The owner only made his statement yesterday. You didn’t expect the building work to start today, did you? |
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Post by yattongas on Feb 13, 2024 15:30:20 GMT
I never post on here, but felt inclined to do so because I'm finding myself baffled by some of the stuff that I read from Gasheads lately. The narrative from fans on social media and this forum paints a picture of a club in complete disarray, at risk of going bust, with owners that compare similarly to Readings that are bleeding out the club. And for sure, in games this season, I've left disappointed. We could be doing better in the league and are missing an opportunity, with that I agree and am frustrated. But there's a level of hysteria which I can't seem to understand. We are 12th in the league. Slap bang mid-table. In League One. From my lifetime of supporting Rovers (I'm 30), I am struggling to comprehend why that position would cause any level of concern from fans. It's certainly not where I want to see us in the future, but when considering the last five years.. I'm pretty pleased to be there! At times this season we have shown real promise that we can compete at the top end of this league. But we have been inconsistent, injury ridden, and clearly have to become more resolute at the back. Frustrating when considering our ambitions of getting to the Championship, sure. But people talk about the club like it's in the worst shape of its life. Yet I see a new training ground undergoing consistent improvement, significant investment in the playing squad, our first new stand ("temporary" or not) that I can remember. It genuinely seems to me that we are a club moving in the right direction. The likes of Grimsby fans must look at us taking their star man with extreme jealousy. Things have not been perfect at the club, clearly there are many areas of improvement both on and off the pitch. But compared to what I can remember over the last 30 years.. it hasn't been better! Is there anyone else that is actually feeling pretty positive about the way we are going?! Why ignore one of the main issues, the new owners sacked JB as he was apparently underperforming but his replacement is starting to do even worse, we went from a football side under JB to, what appears anyway, to be GC type football under MT even though we don't seem to have players who can play that way. Also whilst the new owners talk about a Mem redevelopment etc there's no signs that's taking place nor how it's going to be funded. JB signed a load of sick notes . |
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Feb 13, 2024 16:12:43 GMT
Why ignore one of the main issues, the new owners sacked JB as he was apparently underperforming but his replacement is starting to do even worse, we went from a football side under JB to, what appears anyway, to be GC type football under MT even though we don't seem to have players who can play that way. Also whilst the new owners talk about a Mem redevelopment etc there's no signs that's taking place nor how it's going to be funded. First point, it’s not Matt Taylor’s side. He’s trying to get the best out of a very poorly recruited squad. If everything in the garden had been rosy, JB wouldn’t have been sacked. Your second point beggars belief. The owner only made his statement yesterday. You didn’t expect the building work to start today, did you? I thought given 72 posts on here you might be new to gaschat but I see you’ve been a member for six months …that’s more than enough to know Topper posts sense and nonsense in equal measure…just take a pinch of salt (ok half a hundredweight), sigh and move on😉 sorry that was remiss of me as it looks like I’m ‘attacking the poster not the post’ which I’m not….just half of his posts. |
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Post by syg on Feb 13, 2024 16:34:10 GMT
I never post on here, but felt inclined to do so because I'm finding myself baffled by some of the stuff that I read from Gasheads lately. The narrative from fans on social media and this forum paints a picture of a club in complete disarray, at risk of going bust, with owners that compare similarly to Readings that are bleeding out the club. And for sure, in games this season, I've left disappointed. We could be doing better in the league and are missing an opportunity, with that I agree and am frustrated. But there's a level of hysteria which I can't seem to understand. We are 12th in the league. Slap bang mid-table. In League One. From my lifetime of supporting Rovers (I'm 30), I am struggling to comprehend why that position would cause any level of concern from fans. It's certainly not where I want to see us in the future, but when considering the last five years.. I'm pretty pleased to be there! At times this season we have shown real promise that we can compete at the top end of this league. But we have been inconsistent, injury ridden, and clearly have to become more resolute at the back. Frustrating when considering our ambitions of getting to the Championship, sure. But people talk about the club like it's in the worst shape of its life. Yet I see a new training ground undergoing consistent improvement, significant investment in the playing squad, our first new stand ("temporary" or not) that I can remember. It genuinely seems to me that we are a club moving in the right direction. The likes of Grimsby fans must look at us taking their star man with extreme jealousy. Things have not been perfect at the club, clearly there are many areas of improvement both on and off the pitch. But compared to what I can remember over the last 30 years.. it hasn't been better! Is there anyone else that is actually feeling pretty positive about the way we are going?! It's the social media age for you. People fly off the handle and spout #####. Win 2 straight games and the same super negative people will be super positive before descending into the abyss 1 game later. It's going to be a disappointing season and we moved on hopefully with a better set up for next season. |
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Post by SleepyGas on Feb 13, 2024 16:36:48 GMT
I never post on here, but felt inclined to do so because I'm finding myself baffled by some of the stuff that I read from Gasheads lately. The narrative from fans on social media and this forum paints a picture of a club in complete disarray, at risk of going bust, with owners that compare similarly to Readings that are bleeding out the club. And for sure, in games this season, I've left disappointed. We could be doing better in the league and are missing an opportunity, with that I agree and am frustrated. But there's a level of hysteria which I can't seem to understand. We are 12th in the league. Slap bang mid-table. In League One. From my lifetime of supporting Rovers (I'm 30), I am struggling to comprehend why that position would cause any level of concern from fans. It's certainly not where I want to see us in the future, but when considering the last five years.. I'm pretty pleased to be there! At times this season we have shown real promise that we can compete at the top end of this league. But we have been inconsistent, injury ridden, and clearly have to become more resolute at the back. Frustrating when considering our ambitions of getting to the Championship, sure. But people talk about the club like it's in the worst shape of its life. Yet I see a new training ground undergoing consistent improvement, significant investment in the playing squad, our first new stand ("temporary" or not) that I can remember. It genuinely seems to me that we are a club moving in the right direction. The likes of Grimsby fans must look at us taking their star man with extreme jealousy. Things have not been perfect at the club, clearly there are many areas of improvement both on and off the pitch. But compared to what I can remember over the last 30 years.. it hasn't been better! Is there anyone else that is actually feeling pretty positive about the way we are going?! Why ignore one of the main issues, the new owners sacked JB as he was apparently underperforming but his replacement is starting to do even worse, we went from a football side under JB to, what appears anyway, to be GC type football under MT even though we don't seem to have players who can play that way. Also whilst the new owners talk about a Mem redevelopment etc there's no signs that's taking place nor how it's going to be funded. I'm sure JB was ON THE CUSP of turning his apparently underperforming squad around before he was sacked. We missed out there. Sadly we can now only follow the career of the measured, lucid genius from afar as I am sure he will show us what might have been with whatever role he charitably accepts next. Can't wait. |
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Post by badengas on Feb 13, 2024 16:43:10 GMT
I like this.
Can we possibly put all the "we're doomed" posts in just one thread so the pessimistic amongst us can batted themselves silly without bringing down the optimistic ones ?
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