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Post by singupgas on Mar 9, 2024 17:22:01 GMT
Predicted 4 nil defeat today, so not too surprised.
Doesn't help half the squad being injured, but we are very poor, very predictable, no real flare or pace in the squad.
Derby style of play is what Rovers should aspire to. Why is it that we can't seem to find the same sort of players.
One last thing, why did we give them so much of the South Stand. Should have kept them tucked away in the corner.
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Post by playtowin on Mar 9, 2024 17:28:48 GMT
Derby showed how to have a promotion pushing team. Yes they are poor to watch and yes if they dont improve close season they will really struggle in the Championship.
However. They were strong. They were quick to close down in numbers. They knew to go down convincingly from the right non fouls. Players like Gayle know how to push in the lower back with both hands on every opportunity. Causing opposition players to loose balance or miscontrol. Yes ,its cheating but it works. Their players know how to raise their arms in innocence in unison. They know how to get a job done.
Its true they are far from the best team entertainment wise we have played against.
They are similar to the bottom placed clubs ( who we struggle against) except they do it better.
Rovers need to learn from teams like Derby...though hopefully we dont copy them completely as the football isnt pretty.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 9, 2024 17:29:41 GMT
Derby had lost 9 games before today, they are hardly running away with the league this season? Although Wilson and Hunt get some stick for their injury records this season we never seem the same team without them. Plus we also lost probably our player of the season LT and his, replacement, Vale, doesn't seem the same player since his mystery/strange illness. Dropping Brown given his recent form seemed an odd move as well. I agree with all of that but my point was that Derby are a bigger club with a better budget and theyre 23 points ahead of us and should 100% be winning promotion this season or their season will be considered a complete F*ck up. Lincoln won 5-1 at Barnsley so clearly not every result goes to plan, you sense today we lost before a ball was kicked, even in his pre-match interview just before kick off MT was still singing Derby's praises.
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Post by richhertford on Mar 9, 2024 17:35:50 GMT
Not at all. We are rebuilding. Pretty motivated here with hope for the future. We lost the match to a team in automatics. We learn. The best bounce back. Let’s see how Tuesday works out. You've probably been that all time you've supported Rovers but the chances are we're probably still in the same division when you started supporting them? Yep. Spot on. Here’s what a winner thinks.. x.com/watch_lfc/status/1766488520510587133?s=46&t=Z5PlFEQlY2JeHW1C16l1MQ
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Post by mrgasman on Mar 9, 2024 17:36:05 GMT
I agree with all of that but my point was that Derby are a bigger club with a better budget and theyre 23 points ahead of us and should 100% be winning promotion this season or their season will be considered a complete F*ck up. Lincoln won 5-1 at Barnsley so clearly not every result goes to plan, you sense today we lost before a ball was kicked, even in his pre-match interview just before kick off MT was still singing Derby's praises. 💯 agree with you here.
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Post by madridgas on Mar 9, 2024 17:43:27 GMT
We set up very negative today and disappointed with our approach. Deserved what we got in the end and I have no idea what our tactics were. Finlay was pathetic today. Just exposed as someone in over his head. Needs replacing next season. Pretty sad as well to see Hoole as you’d think one of his last rovers game as he’s simply not good enough. When you see derbys right back compared to him is just night and day. I thought Hoole for a player who should be far "more rusty" than Finley had a good game against one of the best wingers in the league
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Post by stapletongas on Mar 9, 2024 18:03:25 GMT
On paper and in reality Derby were going to be the better side and they were, but we really did not help ourselves out there. Lack of care of the ball in possession, too many times we gave it away cheap, some inexplicable hopeful long balls but also some really careless passes or choice of passes. Gift after gift to a Derby side who were already going to be a big enough challenge.
And another bug bearer of mine. Why do we (and other teams) play wide players on their unnatural side? Later in the second half we finally saw Vale on the left and Sinclair on the right and actually got some balls into the box wide in the final third. I just don't get why teams do it!
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 9, 2024 18:05:46 GMT
Pretty irrelevant what one of the best players in the world thinks when we support an average L1 side? All the time you've supported Rovers there's been Mo Salah's of this world around, it's still not made Rovers a team of winners listening to them.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 9, 2024 18:07:17 GMT
On paper and in reality Derby were going to be the better side and they were, but we really did not help ourselves out there. Lack of care of the ball in possession, too many times we gave it away cheap, some inexplicable hopeful long balls but also some really careless passes or choice of passes. Gift after gift to a Derby side who were already going to be a big enough challenge. And another bug bearer of mine. Why do we (and other teams) play wide players on their unnatural side? Later in the second half we finally saw Vale on the left and Sinclair on the right and actually got some balls into the box wide in the final third. I just don't get why teams do it! So players can cut in and score with their stronger foot, LT can do it but I've not seen Sinclair nor Vale do it all season. Edit Apart from our last home game!
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Post by yattongas on Mar 9, 2024 18:09:56 GMT
Men against boys today , ripped apart by pace and power. Miles off what’s needed to mount a promotion challenge. At least 4 key signings needed next season.
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Post by dmacca65 on Mar 9, 2024 18:13:26 GMT
Outclassed today unfortunately by a team who haven't looked much more than just above average in this division? Somewhat more than just above average imo - most away wins (12) and away goals (34) in division. Have to agree with that really meant to say on todays performance
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 9, 2024 18:17:13 GMT
Men against boys today , ripped apart by pace and power. Miles off what’s needed to mount a promotion challenge. At least 4 key signings needed next season. Wilson, Hunt, LT and Brown could have been the difference today, I guess GF's/MT's challenge is to find similar players who can remain fit for most of the season.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 9, 2024 18:20:10 GMT
Anyone hear the official attendance today ?
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Post by yattongas on Mar 9, 2024 18:20:58 GMT
Men against boys today , ripped apart by pace and power. Miles off what’s needed to mount a promotion challenge. At least 4 key signings needed next season. Wilson, Hunt, LT and Brown could have been the difference today, I guess GF's/MT's challenge is to find similar players who can remain fit for most of the season. Nope . All those 4 wouldn’t of made that much difference.
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Post by richhertford on Mar 9, 2024 18:21:51 GMT
Pretty irrelevant what one of the best players in the world thinks when we support an average L1 side? All the time you've supported Rovers there's been Mo Salah's of this world around, it's still not made Rovers a team of winners listening to them. That’s true. There will be thousands, perhaps many thousands of West Country people that had a dream, a belief and made it happen for them, however they measure success. We don’t all need to be Mo Salah for our high belief leading to success in life on our terms. This, my friend, is relevant to life not just football. Many ingredients make for a winning footballer and a winning club. Of course, Mo didn’t do so well at Chelsea. Didn’t stop him believing in better. A few future top top players have failed at Chelsea. Enjoy your evening.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 9, 2024 18:25:38 GMT
Anyone hear the official attendance today ? 9.7k with 1.3k away
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Post by socrates on Mar 9, 2024 18:26:23 GMT
Men against boys today , ripped apart by pace and power. Miles off what’s needed to mount a promotion challenge. At least 4 key signings needed next season. I think we all knew we were miles off of being a promotion side before today though. With everyone fit we’re a top half team maybe 6th but our squad is aging and massively injury prone which is why we’re mid table. If we had the likes of friend , Wilson Sinclair etc in their prime we’d be top 6 maybe even top 2 but Barton clearly went for promotion or bust this season with experience as they’ve mostly been either aversge due to their age or injured or both of those things and it didn’t work out which has left Taylor with a big job in the summer.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 9, 2024 18:27:47 GMT
Anyone hear the official attendance today ? 9.7k with 1.3k away Still can’t break through that 10k barrier.
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Post by richhertford on Mar 9, 2024 18:27:59 GMT
Pretty irrelevant what one of the best players in the world thinks when we support an average L1 side? All the time you've supported Rovers there's been Mo Salah's of this world around, it's still not made Rovers a team of winners listening to them. I don’t like throwing cold water on ambition, dreams or hopes. Just because it’s not worked in the past - no reason to think it will always be like that. As we all know it’s not my way. Also, Brighton, Luton, Watford, Brentford, Wimbledon. All had something special that helped them believe in better. Many reasons make up successful teams. Just maybe this time we are building something worth believing in. It works for me.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 9, 2024 18:35:02 GMT
Pretty irrelevant what one of the best players in the world thinks when we support an average L1 side? All the time you've supported Rovers there's been Mo Salah's of this world around, it's still not made Rovers a team of winners listening to them. That’s true. There will be thousands, perhaps many thousands of West Country people that had a dream, a belief and made it happen for them, however they measure success. We don’t all need to be Mo Salah for our high belief leading to success in life on our terms. This, my friend, is relevant to life not just football. Many ingredients make for a winning footballer and a winning club. Of course, Mo didn’t do so well at Chelsea. Didn’t stop him believing in better. A few future top top players have failed at Chelsea. Enjoy your evening. Fans being successful in their own lives has no bearing whatsoever on the club they support, it's totally disconnected, if it then wasn't most of us would be living on the bread line or even on the streets! Rovers success is solely down to the owners and the managers etc they appoint.
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