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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 10, 2024 20:02:54 GMT
Fair comment dude. But I guess a CH is far more part of a team and how he plays will be influenced by the players around him. And of course playing alongside Virgyl Van Dyke might be a bit more helpful than playing alongside…… For a keeper I always think it’s about handling, positioning, catching with a safe pair of hands and can be a very individual position. And you may well be right. And also remembering back to Luke Daniels time here in 2011(?) I never thought he’d be a Conference level keeper but he’s had a decent career overall. UTG! Daniels is thee number one example. He left us and not sure he’s played lower than the championship since? Certainly not league one. Nichols, Bonham, Lumley , Etheridge to name four young keepers we had on loan in recent years and all have had decent careers in the game and all still in the Championship. Nichols was even Championship keeper of the year a couple of seasons ago and proof that you can’t write a keeper off as no good when he is still young, learning and prone to the odd mistake in games. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2024 20:05:06 GMT
Fair comment dude. But I guess a CH is far more part of a team and how he plays will be influenced by the players around him. And of course playing alongside Virgyl Van Dyke might be a bit more helpful than playing alongside…… For a keeper I always think it’s about handling, positioning, catching with a safe pair of hands and can be a very individual position. And you may well be right. And also remembering back to Luke Daniels time here in 2011(?) I never thought he’d be a Conference level keeper but he’s had a decent career overall. UTG! Daniels is thee number one example. He left us and not sure he’s played lower than the championship since? Certainly not league one. Lee Nicholls terrible with us at times, gone on to have a proper career above us. We’ve had other loans like Geordie Gas Nicholson who was brilliant for us and went out of the game after. This is loan football from big clubs, I imagine Cox is on an incredible wage considering Vale is on £20k a week. And the reason we are sent keepers like these is because clubs want them to learn and also make their mistakes with us, same really with us sending Jed Ward to Prescott Cables |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 10, 2024 20:28:04 GMT
On another note, no disgrace yesterday losing to Derby whose first team squad budget for this season is £7 million. This is the budget just for the players and does not include the management and staff.
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Post by socrates on Mar 10, 2024 21:35:05 GMT
On the subject of loans weve had over the years theres Quansah who didn’t really impress last season for us in league 1 and is now a regular in one of the best teams in the world a year on.
He played very well today against Man City in a cracking game of football.
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Post by returnofthedust on Mar 10, 2024 22:14:05 GMT
On another note, no disgrace yesterday losing to Derby whose first team squad budget for this season is £7 million. This is the budget just for the players and does not include the management and staff. The usual rubbish from gaschat speculators who claim to be in the know. 😉😘 |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 10, 2024 22:32:53 GMT
On another note, no disgrace yesterday losing to Derby whose first team squad budget for this season is £7 million. This is the budget just for the players and does not include the management and staff. The usual rubbish from gaschat speculators who claim to be in the know. 😉😘 You sir are talking rubbish! Derbys accounts were issued last week and it’s all in there. I refer you to Derbyshire live March 8th, wish I knew how to publish the link. One mistake on my part it was £7.3 million for the first team squad. I await your apology. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Mar 10, 2024 22:52:36 GMT
The usual rubbish from gaschat speculators who claim to be in the know. 😉😘 You sir are talking rubbish! Derbys accounts were issued last week and it’s all in there. I refer you to Derbyshire live March 8th, wish I knew how to publish the link. One mistake on my part it was £7.3 million for the first team squad. I await your apology. I think we need some context here. Firstly the playing budget of 7.3 mil was last season. Its impossible to know the current wage bill as the season haven't ended. Secondly relegated sides are allowed to spend I think 75% of the championship budget in there 1st season in div one . We don't know the budget this season but I expect it will be a lot less then 7mil last season. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Mar 11, 2024 7:51:15 GMT
The usual rubbish from gaschat speculators who claim to be in the know. 😉😘 You sir are talking rubbish! Derbys accounts were issued last week and it’s all in there. I refer you to Derbyshire live March 8th, wish I knew how to publish the link. One mistake on my part it was £7.3 million for the first team squad. I await your apology. It was a joke , Dave. Calm down dear. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 11, 2024 8:01:27 GMT
You sir are talking rubbish! Derbys accounts were issued last week and it’s all in there. I refer you to Derbyshire live March 8th, wish I knew how to publish the link. One mistake on my part it was £7.3 million for the first team squad. I await your apology. I think we need some context here. Firstly the playing budget of 7.3 mil was last season. Its impossible to know the current wage bill as the season haven't ended. Secondly relegated sides are allowed to spend I think 75% of the championship budget in there 1st season in div one . We don't know the budget this season but I expect it will be a lot less then 7mil last season. So you think with many of the same players, the likes of Mendez Lang, Hourahaine, Wildsmith etc etc, that those players are going to take a wage cut. No chance of that, I would bet good money there spending the same, possibly more. Your forgetting the owner who has already spent millions can top up the kitty outwith of any rules. They want out of this league and no way they would cut the players budget to achieve that. If as claimed by many on here our budget is £3 million, it begs the question how do we manage that when their ST holders alone are four times our claimed five thousand. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Mar 11, 2024 8:05:04 GMT
I think we need some context here. Firstly the playing budget of 7.3 mil was last season. Its impossible to know the current wage bill as the season haven't ended. Secondly relegated sides are allowed to spend I think 75% of the championship budget in there 1st season in div one . We don't know the budget this season but I expect it will be a lot less then 7mil last season. So you think with many of the same players, the likes of Mendez Lang, Hourahaine, Wildsmith etc etc, that those players are going to take a wage cut. No chance of that, I would bet good money there spending the same, possibly more. Your forgetting the owner who has already spent millions can top up the kitty outwith of any rules. They want out of this league and no way they would cut the players budget to achieve that. If as claimed by many on here our budget is £3 million, it begs the question how do we manage that when their ST holders alone are four times our claimed five thousand. Our budget is more than 3 million |
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 11, 2024 8:49:24 GMT
So you think with many of the same players, the likes of Mendez Lang, Hourahaine, Wildsmith etc etc, that those players are going to take a wage cut. No chance of that, I would bet good money there spending the same, possibly more. Your forgetting the owner who has already spent millions can top up the kitty outwith of any rules. They want out of this league and no way they would cut the players budget to achieve that. If as claimed by many on here our budget is £3 million, it begs the question how do we manage that when their ST holders alone are four times our claimed five thousand. Our budget is more than 3 million Don’t doubt that at all and clearly Derbys is way more than ours. They have just signed Gayle and he would not have signed for peanuts. The staggering thing for me is the £7 million is for the first team players alone and the overall budget for all staff, academy etc was £17 million. Puts into perspective what it would cost us just to set up a half decent academy etc etc. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Mar 11, 2024 10:14:07 GMT
I think we need some context here. Firstly the playing budget of 7.3 mil was last season. Its impossible to know the current wage bill as the season haven't ended. Secondly relegated sides are allowed to spend I think 75% of the championship budget in there 1st season in div one . We don't know the budget this season but I expect it will be a lot less then 7mil last season. So you think with many of the same players, the likes of Mendez Lang, Hourahaine, Wildsmith etc etc, that those players are going to take a wage cut. No chance of that, I would bet good money there spending the same, possibly more. Your forgetting the owner who has already spent millions can top up the kitty outwith of any rules. They want out of this league and no way they would cut the players budget to achieve that. If as claimed by many on here our budget is £3 million, it begs the question how do we manage that when their ST holders alone are four times our claimed five thousand. The honest answer is I don't know until accounts are published for 2023/24 next year. I suppose its all about opinions. I personally don't believe we are a ' top 6-8' budgeted side as suggested a few months ago. What the budgets are of Derby Pompey Bolton Charlton Barnsley Blackpool Peterboro Oxford United ( bookies favourites - big spenders) we don't know . Even so I don't think we are anywhere near the above teams in resources. As I stated before there is no evidence to prove or disapprove until we analyse the budgets in spring / summer 2025. |
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Post by Sir Trevor on Mar 11, 2024 12:51:49 GMT
With the ages of Sinclair and Martin and the almost total lack of goals from Marquis or Brown, we will need a major overhaul up front.Coupled with the glaring lack of speed,I would be very concerned if we don't have a major re vamp.Not sure what length of contracts these guys are on but no doubt MT is on the case. The lack of goals is a major concern. The Derby County game plan revolved around stopping Chris Martin from getting the ball. They deployed Sonny Bradley behind him and Erian Cashin in front to cut the supply. Without his link play we were unable to get up the pitch, particularly in the opening half. A close eye was also kept on Scott Sinclair because he was the other danger. In his career he has scored 97 league goals and was the player who came nearest to scoring. Apart from these two experienced players the rest of the team, 9 of them, have scored a grand total of 44 league goals in their careers. The seven young players who started against DCFC have scored 10 league goals and played just 323 league games between them. Jed Ward, Luca Hoole, Connor Taylor, Elkan Baggott, Lewis Gordon, Kamil Conteh and Harvey Vale have real potential individually and collectively. For the present, the old hands in the Rams side were able to pick us off simply because of their know-how. In the Summer we will need to sign several experienced players who are also proven goalscorers. |
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Post by Sir Trevor on Mar 12, 2024 15:33:24 GMT
Interesting perspective from the Derby County camp.
Suggestions that in their 3-0 victory that two of their players did not perform to their usual standards.
Two of their high quality players seem to be receiving some criticism for their performance against the Mighty Gas. Ebou Adams in central midfield and Louie Sibley on their left flank are thought to be at risk of being dropped.
Great credit should go to Kamil Conteh and Luca Hoole, their direct opponents in the match.
Sometimes it is hard to judge how well a player performs. When a direct opponent is judged to have a poor game, by their usual standards, the Rovers player concerned can pat themselves on the back.
Well done Kamil and Luca. Same again at Fleetwood and Lincoln please.
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Post by Marshy on Mar 12, 2024 15:38:34 GMT
Interesting perspective from the Derby County camp. Suggestions that in their 3-0 victory that two of their players did not perform to their usual standards. Two of their high quality players seem to be receiving some criticism for their performance against the Mighty Gas. Ebou Adams in central midfield and Louie Sibley on their left flank are thought to be at risk of being dropped. Great credit should go to Kamil Conteh and Luca Hoole, their direct opponents in the match. Sometimes it is hard to judge how well a player performs. When a direct opponent is judged to have a poor game, by their usual standards, the Rovers player concerned can pat themselves on the back. Well done Kamil and Luca. Same again at Fleetwood and Lincoln please. What 3 - 0 losses, pffffttttt no thanks! 😁 |
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