stuart1974
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 13, 2024 18:48:22 GMT
Regarding TG I speak as I find, and in my dealings with he has been courteous, clear and to the point, he has emphasised with me at times although not giving the answers I wanted. He has picked up emails when he has been on holiday & even responded to me at past 10 at night. He has been respectful to me at all times. Likewise me to him. I might not agree with decisions made With the greatest respect to you, I don’t need to ask regular attendees for their opinion. Fair shout. Don’t know him. Can’t comment If you don't know him or have had dealings with him, it's difficult to comment. Personally I'd say respect is the default position and then it's lost rather than the other way round. |
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Post by brfckyle on Apr 13, 2024 20:31:18 GMT
Always found tom good to deal with personally. Could argue a lot of blame is laid at his door for decisions which ultimately arent down to him.
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 13, 2024 20:50:14 GMT
Am I getting this right? He’s a nice enough bloke who’s useless at his job, keep him.
Prison
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Post by horfield on Apr 14, 2024 7:09:51 GMT
Well on his watch as CEO he has presided over the the biggest year end loss in the clubs history. Removed from the board of the football club over a year ago and is now operating under the title of club representative as told by Abdullatif when asked after last months Q&A where he now stood at the club.
I suppose when life is looking so precarious you need to be polite and well mannered when responding to fans emails.
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Post by Gassy on Apr 14, 2024 7:31:05 GMT
TG has undoubtedly made mistakes, but in a season where Barton was given a huge budget (potentially our biggest ever), massive back room staff, a new stand, and upgrades to the training ground - I’m struggling to see why TG is responsible for most of that above Wael.
If someone has a business plan to increase the fan base, get us an all seated Mem and improve the training ground all while making a profit YoY, I’d very much like to see your plans here
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 14, 2024 8:07:40 GMT
TG has undoubtedly made mistakes, but in a season where Barton was given a huge budget (potentially our biggest ever), massive back room staff, a new stand, and upgrades to the training ground - I’m struggling to see why TG is responsible for most of that above Wael. If someone has a business plan to increase the fan base, get us an all seated Mem and improve the training ground all while making a profit YoY, I’d very much like to see your plans here You're suggesting TG doesn't make any major decisions, whereas others are blaming him for the South Stand planning farce, the move to outsource everything including ticket sales, and the revolving door at the management level below him, does any other football club operate with an official Club Secretary? I've no idea what he does, but you'd hope a club would have a strong CEO if it wants to progress. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 14, 2024 8:24:47 GMT
It’s all well and good that TG replies to emails courteously at late times or when he’s on holiday but for those in senior positions in a workplace you have to ask if he should be answering those emails at all.
Leaders need to know when to delegate in an effective organisation - if he can’t delegate appropriately is his organisation being effectively run? If he has that much correspondence should he have a PA to help handle it? Or should he be drafting wider comms to supporters instead of concentrating on sending similar replies to multiple supporters. Work smarter rather than harder.
There are many issues around the club that have deserved attention. Ticketing fiascos, catering, other areas where the club don’t seem to be ticking as well as it should. I’d rather my CEO was focussing on the bigger picture than routine customer service.
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Post by oldie on Apr 14, 2024 8:27:16 GMT
It’s all well and good that TG replies to emails courteously at late times or when he’s on holiday but for those in senior positions in a workplace you have to ask if he should be answering those emails at all. Leaders need to know when to delegate in an effective organisation - if he can’t delegate appropriately is his organisation being effectively run? If he has that much correspondence should he have a PA to help handle it? Or should he be drafting wider comms to supporters instead of concentrating on sending similar replies to multiple supporters. Work smarter rather than harder. There are many issues around the club that have deserved attention. Ticketing fiascos, catering, other areas where the club don’t seem to be ticking as well as it should. I’d rather my CEO was focussing on the bigger picture than routine customer service. You think the club has that kind of people infrastructure in place? |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 14, 2024 8:30:53 GMT
It’s all well and good that TG replies to emails courteously at late times or when he’s on holiday but for those in senior positions in a workplace you have to ask if he should be answering those emails at all. Leaders need to know when to delegate in an effective organisation - if he can’t delegate appropriately is his organisation being effectively run? If he has that much correspondence should he have a PA to help handle it? Or should he be drafting wider comms to supporters instead of concentrating on sending similar replies to multiple supporters. Work smarter rather than harder. There are many issues around the club that have deserved attention. Ticketing fiascos, catering, other areas where the club don’t seem to be ticking as well as it should. I’d rather my CEO was focussing on the bigger picture than routine customer service. You think the club has that kind of people infrastructure in place? It has marketing managers, media managers, heads of HR, retail managers? |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 14, 2024 9:03:36 GMT
Well on his watch as CEO he has presided over the the biggest year end loss in the clubs history. Removed from the board of the football club over a year ago and is now operating under the title of club representative as told by Abdullatif when asked after last months Q&A where he now stood at the club. I suppose when life is looking so precarious you need to be polite and well mannered when responding to fans emails. I have had a few written exchanges with Tom, and he was always very helpful. This was not at a time when his position would have been considered to be precarious. He has certainly made some mistakes, however, I don't think that he deserves to be pilloried to the extent that he is by some on here. |
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Post by oldie on Apr 14, 2024 9:12:40 GMT
You think the club has that kind of people infrastructure in place? It has marketing managers, media managers, heads of HR, retail managers? They do? All stated in plural, do you know who these people are, their names perhaps? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 14, 2024 9:31:15 GMT
It has marketing managers, media managers, heads of HR, retail managers? They do? All stated in plural, do you know who these people are, their names perhaps? Why would most of us know their names, or even want to know them, it's not like we have day to day contract with them? |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 14, 2024 9:36:41 GMT
It has marketing managers, media managers, heads of HR, retail managers? They do? All stated in plural, do you know who these people are, their names perhaps? A lot of this is well documented. Retail manager is Pete Weymouth, also extending to ticketing. The head of HR who knows but the role exists - it’s infamous in relation to the JCH saga. Media manager of head of was posted on here when the role was filled. Go on LinkedIn and search for the club and you’ll find the names of individuals filling these or similarly named roles - dont think it’s necessary to actually name them here. Hardly ITK information that I’m making up. He’s not running the show on his own. |
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Post by oldie on Apr 14, 2024 9:44:35 GMT
They do? All stated in plural, do you know who these people are, their names perhaps? Why would most of us know their names, or even want to know them, it's not like we have day to day contract with them? You miss the point |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 14, 2024 9:56:37 GMT
Why would most of us know their names, or even want to know them, it's not like we have day to day contract with them? You miss the point So, your point was??? |
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Post by oldie on Apr 14, 2024 10:02:52 GMT
They do? All stated in plural, do you know who these people are, their names perhaps? A lot of this is well documented. Retail manager is Pete Weymouth, also extending to ticketing. The head of HR who knows but the role exists - it’s infamous in relation to the JCH saga. Media manager of head of was posted on here when the role was filled. Go on LinkedIn and search for the club and you’ll find the names of individuals filling these or similarly named roles - dont think it’s necessary to actually name them here. Hardly ITK information that I’m making up. He’s not running the show on his own. I could only find three people in what I would call "back office" roles Pete Weymouth (as you said) Clare McDonagh Ethan Clarke I would imagine Pete and Clare are pretty busy in their roles. Looking at Ethan Clarke's Linkedin profile it mentions "the last 5 months" "a more commercial role" Looks pretty green to me, possibly concentrating on sponsorship deals. The point (laborious I know) is that BRFC are a relatively small commercial organisation with an employee overhead that's fits that profile. Which is why you get the "CEO" getting his (or her) hands dirty in the day to day. Like emails. In effect it is hand to mouth which the accounts prove. |
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Post by oldie on Apr 14, 2024 10:04:10 GMT
See my response Tilly. Not knocking, but supporting the reality of working in a small organisation |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 14, 2024 10:29:01 GMT
See my response Tilly. Not knocking, but supporting the reality of working in a small organisation Gotcha! Bit slow today, it's Sunday and I'm still bowled over by the win yesterday!  |
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Post by oldie on Apr 14, 2024 10:34:09 GMT
See my response Tilly. Not knocking, but supporting the reality of working in a small organisation Gotcha! Bit slow today, it's Sunday and I'm still bowled over by the win yesterday! Yeah, me too, a bit. Laying in nursing a dodgy hip, getting old(er) is really starting to pi** me off. Football fix tomorrow night, Cinderford Town Vs Mangotsfield Utd, Hellenic League Premier. Cinderford win, playoffs beckon. Copious amounts of Black Dragon cider to ease the hip😂😂 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 14, 2024 11:42:09 GMT
A lot of this is well documented. Retail manager is Pete Weymouth, also extending to ticketing. The head of HR who knows but the role exists - it’s infamous in relation to the JCH saga. Media manager of head of was posted on here when the role was filled. Go on LinkedIn and search for the club and you’ll find the names of individuals filling these or similarly named roles - dont think it’s necessary to actually name them here. Hardly ITK information that I’m making up. He’s not running the show on his own. I could only find three people in what I would call "back office" roles Pete Weymouth (as you said) Clare McDonagh Ethan Clarke I would imagine Pete and Clare are pretty busy in their roles. Looking at Ethan Clarke's Linkedin profile it mentions "the last 5 months" "a more commercial role" Looks pretty green to me, possibly concentrating on sponsorship deals. The point (laborious I know) is that BRFC are a relatively small commercial organisation with an employee overhead that's fits that profile. Which is why you get the "CEO" getting his (or her) hands dirty in the day to day. Like emails. In effect it is hand to mouth which the accounts prove. We've an Head of Catering in Kate, the media guy from West Ham, Pete in retail/tickets with Clare and an HR girl who's also acting as CS, the CEO's got plenty of "Heads of" below him. |
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