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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 16, 2024 14:47:11 GMT
He isn't stupid, but divisive. A former coach at Brighton with past Rovers connections will tell you that. In fact when he left Brighton his commercial department colleagues held a farewell celebration party to which he wasn't invited. As for his treatment of former staff and how he dealt with it has cost the club a lot of money in compensation. He's no longer CEO but club representative just attending matches, not much need for that after the Wigan away game. Odd then that Abdullatif allowed TG to give a totally different view of his position during the Q&A, as it was pretty clear from that meeting he relies a lot on TG for resolving the day to day issues at the club. |
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Post by wertongas on Apr 16, 2024 15:25:50 GMT
You are to some extent correct Horfield, a former manager of ours who was a coach at Brighton at the same time as TG came to one of our games a few seasons back and wasn't that impressed by TG.
But some of the things he has done have been vindicated, the most major being construction of the South Stand without planning permission. There are planning laws regarding planning time lines and the City council broke them continuously which is why the government have now put them in special measures,city council applications have now to be decided by the governments planning inspectorate. I did say on here at the time and to TG that the club were doing the right thing by carrying on the building of the stand without permission, as the council had already broken the law,by not completing dealing with the application within the frame work. This is why the council did not put a stop on the work, as the planning department were in a mess and partly to blame for not dealing with the application correctly. If the club had waited for planning to sort things the stand may still not be completed by now.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 16, 2024 16:19:15 GMT
The club could have just done what 99.99% of people do, just wait for pp before starting any work? Has the club really gained anything financially by not waiting until this summer to start the work?
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Post by percy on Apr 16, 2024 16:56:24 GMT
The club could have just done what 99.99% of people do, just wait for pp before starting any work? Has the club really gained anything financially by not waiting until this summer to start the work? Yes, cos if we started this summer it would be December before it is open. First few games always likely to be popular, and if we start well... then... |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 16, 2024 17:45:40 GMT
The club could have just done what 99.99% of people do, just wait for pp before starting any work? Has the club really gained anything financially by not waiting until this summer to start the work? Yes, cos if we started this summer it would be December before it is open. First few games always likely to be popular, and if we start well... then... Which is no different than last summer? I doubt TG ploughed ahead last summer on the basis JB would be sacked and his replacement would start off better this summer. Clearly TG got it hopelessly wrong as the new co-owners have now suggested in future they intend getting pp before any further work commences on the ground. |
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Post by singupgas on Apr 17, 2024 6:34:07 GMT
Yes, cos if we started this summer it would be December before it is open. First few games always likely to be popular, and if we start well... then... Which is no different than last summer? I doubt TG ploughed ahead last summer on the basis JB would be sacked and his replacement would start off better this summer. Clearly TG got it hopelessly wrong as the new co-owners have now suggested in future they intend getting pp before any further work commences on the ground. Why is everyone talking as if TG was only person at the club. It's almost as if Wael would not have been involved at all, which is nonsense. As for TG being replaced, I can imagine the new owner just needed to find a position for his son and give him something to do. That was always going to be above anyone else at the club, not taking orders from TG or anyone else. Looking forward to a prosperous future under new regime. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Apr 17, 2024 7:04:16 GMT
Which is no different than last summer? I doubt TG ploughed ahead last summer on the basis JB would be sacked and his replacement would start off better this summer. Clearly TG got it hopelessly wrong as the new co-owners have now suggested in future they intend getting pp before any further work commences on the ground. Why is everyone talking as if TG was only person at the club. It's almost as if Wael would not have been involved at all, which is nonsense. As for TG being replaced, I can imagine the new owner just needed to find a position for his son and give him something to do. That was always going to be above anyone else at the club, not taking orders from TG or anyone else. Looking forward to a prosperous future under new regime. Criticism of Wael isn’t allowed, you know this by now |
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Post by percy on Apr 17, 2024 7:18:33 GMT
Why is everyone talking as if TG was only person at the club. It's almost as if Wael would not have been involved at all, which is nonsense. As for TG being replaced, I can imagine the new owner just needed to find a position for his son and give him something to do. That was always going to be above anyone else at the club, not taking orders from TG or anyone else. Looking forward to a prosperous future under new regime. Criticism of Wael isn’t allowed, you know this by now Don’t be daft. He gets plenty on here. The silly name calling many don’t like but that doesn’t stop the usual suspects either. People love to pretend their views are cancelled as they shout them out don’t they. 🤣 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 17, 2024 7:36:30 GMT
TG, not Wael, put his name on the planning application and it's clear from the Q&A that he's leading that project for the club.
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Post by melrosegas on Apr 17, 2024 10:36:55 GMT
If TG has been handed all things stadium development I look forward to improvements over the summer. Namely South Stand facilities fitted adequately under stand, Thatchers end temp toilet facilities sorted, refresh North and East stand turnstiles etc, tidy up of area behind away standing. West stand is rusting and could do with treatment/coat of paint.
If the club want to shift more season tickets at increased prices or attract new fans we need to put more effort into the facilities. We are competing with the s*** who have a premiership ready stadium, higher level of football and cheaper ticket prices. We need to put our own front foot forward.
Let's see how far we get!
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Post by banjogas on Apr 17, 2024 13:14:01 GMT
If TG has been handed all things stadium development I look forward to improvements over the summer. Namely South Stand facilities fitted adequately under stand, Thatchers end temp toilet facilities sorted, refresh North and East stand turnstiles etc, tidy up of area behind away standing. West stand is rusting and could do with treatment/coat of paint. If the club want to shift more season tickets at increased prices or attract new fans we need to put more effort into the facilities. We are competing with the s*** who have a premiership ready stadium, higher level of football and cheaper ticket prices. We need to put our own front foot forward. Let's see how far we get! The fact that none of this has been done is embarrassing and rightfully falls on the CEO. If he can’t manage a handyman, what chance have we got when it comes to negotiating contracts with player agents. TG is a failed commercial manager, he got lucky with Wael however it seems that luck is over with the new ownership structure. I wonder if Starnes will take him down to Taunton Town with him….. |
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Post by The Equaliser on Apr 17, 2024 13:18:07 GMT
Why is everyone talking as if TG was only person at the club. It's almost as if Wael would not have been involved at all, which is nonsense. As for TG being replaced, I can imagine the new owner just needed to find a position for his son and give him something to do. That was always going to be above anyone else at the club, not taking orders from TG or anyone else. Looking forward to a prosperous future under new regime. Criticism of Wael isn’t allowed, you know this by now Ridiculous post with respect, no one is protected from criticism on here imo, Wael has had tons of critical posts slagging him off, he also rightly has had a few applaud the things he has got right, but to say ‘criticism of Wael isn’t allowed’ - complete rubbish 👍🏾 |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Apr 17, 2024 18:09:50 GMT
They do? All stated in plural, do you know who these people are, their names perhaps? Why would most of us know their names, or even want to know them, it's not like we have day to day contract with them? You want to know everything else but not this, right |
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Post by curlywurly on Apr 17, 2024 19:56:52 GMT
The club could have just done what 99.99% of people do, just wait for pp before starting any work? Has the club really gained anything financially by not waiting until this summer to start the work? I don't share your opinion on this. We've waited for the full planning process to play through with the previous stadium development and with the Sainsbury's plans/UWE. In all cases PP was granted, but the delay meant that plans were shelved.
In this case, the decision to proceed in advance had the effect of forcing the planning approval and the South Stand got built. It's not a tactic that will work again, but it's delivered the best improvement to the Mem since Rovers took up residence. Was it by luck or judgement? I doubt we'll know, but I'm judging by results.
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Post by wider on Apr 17, 2024 20:52:14 GMT
The club could have just done what 99.99% of people do, just wait for pp before starting any work? Has the club really gained anything financially by not waiting until this summer to start the work? I don't share your opinion on this. We've waited for the full planning process to play through with the previous stadium development and with the Sainsbury's plans/UWE. In all cases PP was granted, but the delay meant that plans were shelved.
In this case, the decision to proceed in advance had the effect of forcing the planning approval and the South Stand got built. It's not a tactic that will work again, but it's delivered the best improvement to the Mem since Rovers took up residence. Was it by luck or judgement? I doubt we'll know, but I'm judging by results.
Completely agree, we wouldn’t be in by now and possibly still waiting for planning permission, if we ever got it. |
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Post by gasify on Apr 18, 2024 5:55:41 GMT
The club could have just done what 99.99% of people do, just wait for pp before starting any work? Has the club really gained anything financially by not waiting until this summer to start the work? I don't share your opinion on this. We've waited for the full planning process to play through with the previous stadium development and with the Sainsbury's plans/UWE. In all cases PP was granted, but the delay meant that plans were shelved.
In this case, the decision to proceed in advance had the effect of forcing the planning approval and the South Stand got built. It's not a tactic that will work again, but it's delivered the best improvement to the Mem since Rovers took up residence. Was it by luck or judgement? I doubt we'll know, but I'm judging by results.
Is that true? |
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Post by curlywurly on Apr 18, 2024 6:39:56 GMT
I don't share your opinion on this. We've waited for the full planning process to play through with the previous stadium development and with the Sainsbury's plans/UWE. In all cases PP was granted, but the delay meant that plans were shelved.
In this case, the decision to proceed in advance had the effect of forcing the planning approval and the South Stand got built. It's not a tactic that will work again, but it's delivered the best improvement to the Mem since Rovers took up residence. Was it by luck or judgement? I doubt we'll know, but I'm judging by results.
Is that true? I think so. A stand of 3414 seats to replace the tent. Good views, better atmosphere. I'm not belittling the other developments - West Stand, North Terrace Roof, Family Terrace roof - but I think this is the best improvement yet. More to come.
I accept the opinion of others, but I like the Mem and its lack of uniformity.
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Post by percy on Apr 18, 2024 6:45:25 GMT
I don't share your opinion on this. We've waited for the full planning process to play through with the previous stadium development and with the Sainsbury's plans/UWE. In all cases PP was granted, but the delay meant that plans were shelved.
In this case, the decision to proceed in advance had the effect of forcing the planning approval and the South Stand got built. It's not a tactic that will work again, but it's delivered the best improvement to the Mem since Rovers took up residence. Was it by luck or judgement? I doubt we'll know, but I'm judging by results.
Is that true? I would say so too. What do you think is? |
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Post by eric on Apr 18, 2024 7:25:49 GMT
I don't share your opinion on this. We've waited for the full planning process to play through with the previous stadium development and with the Sainsbury's plans/UWE. In all cases PP was granted, but the delay meant that plans were shelved.
In this case, the decision to proceed in advance had the effect of forcing the planning approval and the South Stand got built. It's not a tactic that will work again, but it's delivered the best improvement to the Mem since Rovers took up residence. Was it by luck or judgement? I doubt we'll know, but I'm judging by results.
Is that true? What has been the biggest improvement in your eyes then? I know you don’t like the South Stand and despite all the rain we had it never collapsed like you suggested it would. |
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 18, 2024 8:06:12 GMT
The South Stand is undoubtedly the best ground improvement since we moved to The Mem, it's a pretty damning statement though.
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