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Post by gasify on Apr 18, 2024 8:41:13 GMT
What has been the biggest improvement in your eyes then? I know you don’t like the South Stand and despite all the rain we had it never collapsed like you suggested it would. When did the West stand get built? |
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Post by jongas1 on Apr 18, 2024 8:54:15 GMT
What has been the biggest improvement in your eyes then? I know you don’t like the South Stand and despite all the rain we had it never collapsed like you suggested it would. When did the West stand get built? It was under construction when we moved in |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 18, 2024 9:52:11 GMT
When did the West stand get built? It was under construction when we moved in and I assume paid for by Bristol Rugby? |
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Apr 18, 2024 9:54:27 GMT
It was under construction when we moved in and I assume paid for by Bristol Rugby? Correct. |
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 18, 2024 9:54:57 GMT
It was under construction when we moved in and I assume paid for by Bristol Rugby? It was, yes. The last time the Football Club paid for a new permeant structure by itself was the Tote End in 1935. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 18, 2024 9:55:33 GMT
The club could have just done what 99.99% of people do, just wait for pp before starting any work? Has the club really gained anything financially by not waiting until this summer to start the work? I don't share your opinion on this. We've waited for the full planning process to play through with the previous stadium development and with the Sainsbury's plans/UWE. In all cases PP was granted, but the delay meant that plans were shelved.
In this case, the decision to proceed in advance had the effect of forcing the planning approval and the South Stand got built. It's not a tactic that will work again, but it's delivered the best improvement to the Mem since Rovers took up residence. Was it by luck or judgement? I doubt we'll know, but I'm judging by results.
Not sure you can compare getting pp and finance for one stand to getting it for an entire stadium development? Although perhaps this was a master stroke by "Wally" as he effectively forced the building through of the stand before the new owners could stop it in its tracks? If we'd waited perhaps the new owners would have done just whatever every other owner did, and decide not to proceed? Who knows? |
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Post by curlywurly on Apr 18, 2024 10:35:01 GMT
What has been the biggest improvement in your eyes then? I know you don’t like the South Stand and despite all the rain we had it never collapsed like you suggested it would. When did the West stand get built? The original wooden West 'grand' stand was condemned and demolished in 1995 and planning permission for the current West Stand was granted in June 1995. Rovers first competitive game at the Mem was on 31st August 1996 against Stockport - famously the game where both sides benefitted from the goalposts not being fixed properly. As you can see from the video, the West Stand was still in construction at that time, but I don't remember when it was officially opened.
A pretty stark reminder of how the ground used to look.
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Post by curlywurly on Apr 18, 2024 10:42:14 GMT
I don't share your opinion on this. We've waited for the full planning process to play through with the previous stadium development and with the Sainsbury's plans/UWE. In all cases PP was granted, but the delay meant that plans were shelved.
In this case, the decision to proceed in advance had the effect of forcing the planning approval and the South Stand got built. It's not a tactic that will work again, but it's delivered the best improvement to the Mem since Rovers took up residence. Was it by luck or judgement? I doubt we'll know, but I'm judging by results.
Not sure you can compare getting pp and finance for one stand to getting it for an entire stadium development? Although perhaps this was a master stroke by "Wally" as he effectively forced the building through of the stand before the new owners could stop it in its tracks? If we'd waited perhaps the new owners would have done just whatever every other owner did, and decide not to proceed? Who knows? Maybe I've not caught up, but I'm not sure there is any evidence that the Al Saeeds are unhappy with the South Stand development? Hussain seemed pretty pleased with its completion when I've seen him interviewed and he talked about the next phases.
From any owners point of view, useful, revenue earning extra capacity at a reasonable investment cost is going to be valuable.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 18, 2024 12:00:44 GMT
and I assume paid for by Bristol Rugby? It was, yes. The last time the Football Club paid for a new permeant structure by itself was the Tote End in 1935. Crikey, not far off 100 years ago! |
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Post by horfield on Apr 18, 2024 12:07:44 GMT
It will be interesting to see where the South Stand sits in the Bristol Rovers 1883 Ltd holding company accounts which are now 18 days overdue. The former owner,now minority shareholder is a personal guarantor of the stand to the tune of £1.5 million plus.Not sure the Al Saeeds will relieve him of that responsibility.What is the old saying, guarantors are fools with pens ! The South Stand could turn out to be a spectacular own goal.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 18, 2024 12:10:32 GMT
It will be interesting to see where the South Stand sits in the Bristol Rovers 1883 Ltd holding company accounts which are now 18 days overdue. The former owner,now minority shareholder is a personal guarantor of the stand to the tune of £1.5 million plus.Not sure the Al Saeeds will relieve him of that responsibility.What is the old saying, guarantors are fools with pens ! The South Stand could turn out to be a spectacular own goal. Why? |
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Post by amgas on Apr 18, 2024 12:49:07 GMT
Not true is it really ..... Small stand at Twerton was paid for by Rovers, even though we were only tenants. It is still there despite Rovers wanting to try moving it when we left.
Clearly we had a big part in the North Stand at Eastville as it was largely built as a result of success for Rovers on the field and funded by the supporters club I believe.
We obviously also built the roof over the Thatchers End and the Family enclosure which are also permanent structures. Accept again funding came from 50-50 etc but ultimately they were football club projects.
We did not own Eastville after the 1930s or Twerton or the Mem at the start. Would you build an extension on a house if you only rented it ?
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 18, 2024 12:56:18 GMT
Not true is it really ..... Small stand at Twerton was paid for by Rovers, even though we were only tenants. It is still there despite Rovers wanting to try moving it when we left. Clearly we had a big part in the North Stand at Eastville as it was largely built as a result of success for Rovers on the field and funded by the supporters club I believe. We obviously also built the roof over the Thatchers End and the Family enclosure which are also permanent structures. Accept again funding came from 50-50 etc but ultimately they were football club projects. We did not own Eastville after the 1930s or Twerton or the Mem at the start. Would you build an extension on a house if you only rented it ? - The Small Stand at Twerton was part paid for by insurance from the Grand Stand arson. - The North Stand at Eastville was part paid for by the Supporters Club. - The Thatchers End and Family Stand roofs were paid for solely by supporters, as were our floodlights. Neither roofs are permanent structures and were originally intended to have a life of around 10 years. If you do not own a ground for 57 years, you can consider building one yourself. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 18, 2024 13:10:22 GMT
Not true is it really ..... Small stand at Twerton was paid for by Rovers, even though we were only tenants. It is still there despite Rovers wanting to try moving it when we left. Clearly we had a big part in the North Stand at Eastville as it was largely built as a result of success for Rovers on the field and funded by the supporters club I believe. We obviously also built the roof over the Thatchers End and the Family enclosure which are also permanent structures. Accept again funding came from 50-50 etc but ultimately they were football club projects. We did not own Eastville after the 1930s or Twerton or the Mem at the start. Would you build an extension on a house if you only rented it ? - The Small Stand at Twerton was part paid for by insurance from the Grand Stand arson. - The North Stand at Eastville was part paid for by the Supporters Club. - The Thatchers End and Family Stand roofs were paid for solely by supporters, as were our floodlights. Neither roofs are permanent structures and were originally intended to have a life of around 10 years. If you do not own a ground for 57 years, you can consider building one yourself. I thought that the small stand at Twerton Park was mainly paid for by a grant from the Football League/FA - Rovers were able to access grants which were not available to Bath City. |
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 18, 2024 13:21:29 GMT
- The Small Stand at Twerton was part paid for by insurance from the Grand Stand arson. - The North Stand at Eastville was part paid for by the Supporters Club. - The Thatchers End and Family Stand roofs were paid for solely by supporters, as were our floodlights. Neither roofs are permanent structures and were originally intended to have a life of around 10 years. If you do not own a ground for 57 years, you can consider building one yourself. I thought that the small stand at Twerton Park was mainly paid for by a grant from the Football League/FA - Rovers were able to access grants which were not available to Bath City. I was under the impression it was helped by an insurance pay out, either way that's not the club paying  |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 18, 2024 18:26:20 GMT
Not true is it really ..... Small stand at Twerton was paid for by Rovers, even though we were only tenants. It is still there despite Rovers wanting to try moving it when we left. Clearly we had a big part in the North Stand at Eastville as it was largely built as a result of success for Rovers on the field and funded by the supporters club I believe. We obviously also built the roof over the Thatchers End and the Family enclosure which are also permanent structures. Accept again funding came from 50-50 etc but ultimately they were football club projects. We did not own Eastville after the 1930s or Twerton or the Mem at the start. Would you build an extension on a house if you only rented it ? - The Small Stand at Twerton was part paid for by insurance from the Grand Stand arson. - The North Stand at Eastville was part paid for by the Supporters Club. - The Thatchers End and Family Stand roofs were paid for solely by supporters, as were our floodlights. Neither roofs are permanent structures and were originally intended to have a life of around 10 years. If you do not own a ground for 57 years, you can consider building one yourself. So TG is the only CEO who's managed to get a stand built in the last 50+ years? |
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 18, 2024 21:39:09 GMT
- The Small Stand at Twerton was part paid for by insurance from the Grand Stand arson. - The North Stand at Eastville was part paid for by the Supporters Club. - The Thatchers End and Family Stand roofs were paid for solely by supporters, as were our floodlights. Neither roofs are permanent structures and were originally intended to have a life of around 10 years. If you do not own a ground for 57 years, you can consider building one yourself. So TG is the only CEO who's managed to get a stand built in the last 50+ years? Its not permanent. Every single board bar Dunford Snr has been useless  |
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Post by curlywurly on Apr 18, 2024 21:43:00 GMT
I thought that the small stand at Twerton Park was mainly paid for by a grant from the Football League/FA - Rovers were able to access grants which were not available to Bath City. I was under the impression it was helped by an insurance pay out, either way that's not the club paying Not trying to be a smart Alec, but the article below indicates that Rovers funded both the temporary stand that was installed at the Bristol End at Twerton and the small stand that still remains to the side of the main stand (now Family Stand). Not clear whether there was a grant received, but Bath needed Rovers to foot the bill. I'm pretty sure that the insurance payout went to the rebuild of the main stand.
By the way, it was Rovers that paid me in bacon rolls and cups of tea to get Twerton ready for League football in 1986!
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 5, 2024 1:22:50 GMT
Been told he is no longer a director at the club and has left Quantify this and give us the information how you know. This is always asked of me so only fair to ask you. I’m watching |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 5, 2024 1:24:41 GMT
Lucky to have lasted as long as he has. Could tell the owners son wanted him gone at the q and a. Made too many mistakes recently to warrant keeping his job imo. i didnt get that at all . i saw a CEO who has carried out instructions as per the various owners being undermined by an owner who attends a public meeting and wants to be seen as the nice guy who gets things done. He throws the Ceo under a bus if that is what is needed to curry favour . I may be wrong of course but i have seen it happen before . Not a nice guy at all. In fact extremely nasty |
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