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Post by bluetooth0077 on Mar 19, 2024 23:34:59 GMT
Anyway clearly the club needs some professional management. Some on here don't seem to be able to rationalise anything. It's mind blowing
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Post by phillistine on Mar 20, 2024 7:30:18 GMT
i didnt get that at all . i saw a CEO who has carried out instructions as per the various owners being undermined by an owner who attends a public meeting and wants to be seen as the nice guy who gets things done. He throws the Ceo under a bus if that is what is needed to curry favour . I may be wrong of course but i have seen it happen before . Hence why I said you could see the owners son wanted him gone as like you say he threw him under the bus a couple of times during the meeting. I disagree . The new owners got JB and his team out quite quickly so if they felt that Tom needed to go then it would have happened by now. I have been on a number of boards - and part of the reason for me going along to the meeting was to try and observe the dynamic between the various people bearing in mind that there had been so many tales of general discontent following the arrival of the new owner. The owner did say things that seemed to undermine Tom but it was not done in a malicious way but as a consequence of him trying to prove that he was a nice guy who the fans should trust. For example the CEO deals with day to day operational issues and leaves the owners to deal with the bigger issues facing the club but suddenly during the meeting the owner said that he was happy to meet with groups and chat with them. In doing so he was inadvertently saying that if you don’t like what Tom says then speak to me and that may be a mistake or it may not. It doesn’t mean that the owner thinks Tom is doing a bad job - just that he as owner had the authority to ignore the restrictions that Tom was working with. Interestingly when Tom was asked a question about the JCH signing , the owner offered to take what might have been a difficult topic but Tom said - “ it’s ok I will deal with it “ . That to me showed that actually they were showing signs of working together as a team even if they still stepped on each other’s toes ocassionally. The reality is that the new owner is getting involved in operational matters which previously were all part of Toms territory and so his authority is reduced simply because someone else is dealing with things that were in his remit. Tom admitted during the meeting that certain things historically had not been done but didn’t say why. We have to draw our own conclusions on that . Finally I would point out that being a Director is not the perk that some people believe it to be as it brings with it legal responsibilities that could result in heavy fines by the regulators or even shareholders if you get things wrong. It is unwise to remain a Director in name only and if Tom is no longer really doing any work on behalf of any of the Comoanies which are part of the group , then it is sensible that he steps down. It doesn’t mean that he has been sacked or things have changed . Unless you are directly involved , the only way to really be sure what is going on is by is to wait for the press releases . |
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Post by horfield on Mar 20, 2024 7:57:05 GMT
After the last Q&A Abdullatif was asked what position TG now occupied and was told Club Representative. Mind you, I wonder if all that training ground tittle tattle ITK will stop being posted on here, someone in the club must have been passing it on, it wouldn't be the executive Vice president, not in his interests.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2024 7:58:30 GMT
Tom Gorringe is still an employee of Bristol Rovers but is no longer a board member at the club.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Mar 20, 2024 8:41:29 GMT
Tom Gorringe is still an employee of Bristol Rovers but is no longer a board member at the club. Sounds like he hasn’t been a board member (Director) since the takeover then. Why though has it taken more than 6 months to notify companies house of the change when the legal requirement is to inform within 14 days? |
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Post by supergas on Mar 20, 2024 8:50:01 GMT
Tom Gorringe is still an employee of Bristol Rovers but is no longer a board member at the club. Sounds like he hasn’t been a board member (Director) since the takeover then. Why though has it taken more than 6 months to notify companies house of the change when the legal requirement is to inform within 14 days? This is the real question. I've been a director of a small company and Companies House really dislike it when anything is filed late... ...even the appointments of Hussain Ali Abdulrahman Al-Saeed and Abdullatif Al-Saeed (effective 11th Aug) were received on Sept 28th - so more than 4 weeks late... |
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Post by phillistine on Mar 20, 2024 9:38:28 GMT
Sounds like he hasn’t been a board member (Director) since the takeover then. Why though has it taken more than 6 months to notify companies house of the change when the legal requirement is to inform within 14 days? This is the real question. I've been a director of a small company and Companies House really dislike it when anything is filed late... ...even the appointments of Hussain Ali Abdulrahman Al-Saeed and Abdullatif Al-Saeed (effective 11th Aug) were received on Sept 28th - so more than 4 weeks late... its not uncommon for people to file late and theoretically the club could get fined but it rarely happens. The actual financials were published within 16 days and one suspects that the change in directorships were handled diplomatically and so maybe took longer to decide before being backdated to the date of the takeover. Late filing can affect the credit worthiness of a company but i don't think that our owners are considered much of a credit risk. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 20, 2024 10:45:32 GMT
Glad that you're still here Tom, now, can you get the burnt pasties and filthy toilets sorted, please?
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Post by supergas on Mar 20, 2024 10:56:57 GMT
Glad that you're still here Tom, now, can you get the burnt pasties and filthy toilets sorted, please? ...the other real question - must be by choice that issues like this are not fixed... |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 20, 2024 11:59:42 GMT
I think it's quite disrespectful to speculate about whether someone has lost their job or not, no matter what you might think of them. Kind regards John Malyckyj It's no more or less disrespectful than some employees that have lost their job by his hand, and subsequently litigated against the club because of him. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 20, 2024 12:19:19 GMT
Don’t remember anyone getting upset about speculation regards Starnes, Hamer, Tony the Till or a.n.other chiefs that may have come before (even if they doubled up as owners). In fact some of them had a right pasting.
If a member of the playing or management staff were underperforming to the same extent nobody would hold back.
We’re not talking about a member of the club megastore staff or a HR manager we’re talking about the chief executive.
If Tom had the equivalent position in a company like NatWest or perhaps say a furniture company that didn’t do what they were supposed to then he’d be getting pelters from the media.
I don’t get why so many seem so keen to protect him from criticism especially when the same people were calling out Starnes and Hamer for various inadequacies.
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 20, 2024 12:24:42 GMT
Don’t remember anyone getting upset about speculation regards Starnes, Hamer, Tony the Till or a.n.other chiefs that may have come before (even if they doubled up as owners). In fact some of them had a right pasting. If a member of the playing or management staff were underperforming to the same extent nobody would hold back. We’re not talking about a member of the club megastore staff or a HR manager we’re talking about the chief executive. If Tom had the equivalent position in a company like NatWest or perhaps say a furniture company that didn’t do what they were supposed to then he’d be getting pelters from the media. I don’t get why so many seem so keen to protect him from criticism especially when the same people were calling out Starnes and Hamer for various inadequacies. A little copy and paste job but what's Tommy Gulag done wrong?! An illegal betting partnership with Mint Bet, a sponsorship deal with a ponzi scheme that cost peoples thousands of pounds in Football Index, not getting the correct planning permission for the temporary North East Stand, selling season tickets for a stand that was only finished in February, not getting planning permission for that stand prior to starting the build of said stand, releasing a shirt to help raise awareness of disabilities and then less than 24 hours later releasing a statement saying disabled away fans would not be able to attend a game, writing a statement saying any club employee found guilty of a violent offence will be sacked with immediate effect when Barton was arrested only to delete in the day before Jevani Brown was signed, various ticketing fiascos, Queengate, allowing the reduction of capacity of the Mem without the stadium changing in any way, a 29.47% increase in basic North Terrace season ticket prices since 2019 and he's a bit of a wally. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2024 12:26:47 GMT
I think it's quite disrespectful to speculate about whether someone has lost their job or not, no matter what you might think of them. Kind regards John Malyckyj It's no more or less disrespectful than some employees that have lost their job by his hand, and subsequently litigated against the club because of him. he was quite happy giving others long serving members of the club the chop. He got found out after outsourcing everything and has proven to lurch from one fiasco after another. |
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Post by horfield on Mar 20, 2024 12:37:47 GMT
He's cost the club a lot of money in mishandling sacking decent people at the club over his period as CEO ably assisted my Morticia and getting all the HR facts wrong in the cases. Bullying and threats towards former employees are not what the people who he smarms could ever imagine is the same man.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 20, 2024 12:49:02 GMT
Don’t remember anyone getting upset about speculation regards Starnes, Hamer, Tony the Till or a.n.other chiefs that may have come before (even if they doubled up as owners). In fact some of them had a right pasting. If a member of the playing or management staff were underperforming to the same extent nobody would hold back. We’re not talking about a member of the club megastore staff or a HR manager we’re talking about the chief executive. If Tom had the equivalent position in a company like NatWest or perhaps say a furniture company that didn’t do what they were supposed to then he’d be getting pelters from the media. I don’t get why so many seem so keen to protect him from criticism especially when the same people were calling out Starnes and Hamer for various inadequacies. A little copy and paste job but what's Tommy Gulag done wrong?! An illegal betting partnership with Mint Bet, a sponsorship deal with a ponzi scheme that cost peoples thousands of pounds in Football Index, not getting the correct planning permission for the temporary North East Stand, selling season tickets for a stand that was only finished in February, not getting planning permission for that stand prior to starting the build of said stand, releasing a shirt to help raise awareness of disabilities and then less than 24 hours later releasing a statement saying disabled away fans would not be able to attend a game, writing a statement saying any club employee found guilty of a violent offence will be sacked with immediate effect when Barton was arrested only to delete in the day before Jevani Brown was signed, various ticketing fiascos, Queengate, allowing the reduction of capacity of the Mem without the stadium changing in any way, a 29.47% increase in basic North Terrace season ticket prices since 2019 and he's a bit of a wally. How many of those issues are down directly to TG rather than Wael/ theAl Saaed's? In particular I doubt he had any real say in Brown being offered a contract nor the season ticket prices being increased, the latter seemingly clearly down to the new owners, with Abdullatif confirming as much at the recent Q&A. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 20, 2024 12:50:46 GMT
He's cost the club a lot of money in mishandling sacking decent people at the club over his period as CEO ably assisted my Morticia and getting all the HR facts wrong in the cases. Bullying and threats towards former employees are not what the people who he smarms could ever imagine is the same man. I'm intruiged - who is "Morticia"? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 20, 2024 12:53:08 GMT
He's cost the club a lot of money in mishandling sacking decent people at the club over his period as CEO ably assisted my Morticia and getting all the HR facts wrong in the cases. Bullying and threats towards former employees are not what the people who he smarms could ever imagine is the same man. How does sacking somebody cost the club money, unless they win their Employment Tribunal cases, which no poster has ever proven has been the case? Possibly we've had to pay some ex members of staff off but at least we've got them off the payroll. |
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Post by singupgas on Mar 20, 2024 13:08:39 GMT
Strange what gets people backs up on here, tell me what he has done that is really that bad?
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Post by singupgas on Mar 20, 2024 13:14:59 GMT
Glad that you're still here Tom, now, can you get the burnt pasties and filthy toilets sorted, please? Haven't had a burnt pasty for a few months. Also more of sh**e ground issue are the toilets, let's hope that is sorted out when the stands are redeveloped. |
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 20, 2024 13:16:22 GMT
A little copy and paste job but what's Tommy Gulag done wrong?! An illegal betting partnership with Mint Bet, a sponsorship deal with a ponzi scheme that cost peoples thousands of pounds in Football Index, not getting the correct planning permission for the temporary North East Stand, selling season tickets for a stand that was only finished in February, not getting planning permission for that stand prior to starting the build of said stand, releasing a shirt to help raise awareness of disabilities and then less than 24 hours later releasing a statement saying disabled away fans would not be able to attend a game, writing a statement saying any club employee found guilty of a violent offence will be sacked with immediate effect when Barton was arrested only to delete in the day before Jevani Brown was signed, various ticketing fiascos, Queengate, allowing the reduction of capacity of the Mem without the stadium changing in any way, a 29.47% increase in basic North Terrace season ticket prices since 2019 and he's a bit of a wally. How many of those issues are down directly to TG rather than Wael/ theAl Saaed's? In particular I doubt he had any real say in Brown being offered a contract nor the season ticket prices being increased, the latter seemingly clearly down to the new owners, with Abdullatif confirming as much at the recent Q&A. He's the CEO. |
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