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Post by horfield on Mar 20, 2024 20:34:08 GMT
I think when the year end accounts 2023 due to be filed before the end of this month will show us all whether the club is in a better place since his appointment as CEO.
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Post by bidefordgas on Mar 20, 2024 20:37:50 GMT
Amusing that David Bright seems to have gone from zero to hero, in order to fit into the anti-TG agenda. At the time, DB was seen as being responsible for some of the cock-ups which are now being laid at TG's door, and people couldn't wait to get rid of him. Nowt so fickle as us football fans! Nail on the head Tilly!
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 20, 2024 21:37:57 GMT
I think when the year end accounts 2023 due to be filed before the end of this month will show us all whether the club is in a better place since his appointment as CEO. Or will they simply show the money JB (over) spent with Wael's full backing? The new co-owners have already warned us they won't make good reading.
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 20, 2024 21:41:22 GMT
So 4 pages because the guy who told the OP got it wrong then? He is still employed as CEO. Fact. He is still a free citizen. Fact. He has tried his level best whilst employed by the Club. Fact. He has great affinity for Rovers. Fact. He doesn't please 100% of the fan base and never will...as someone could always do his job better... Much respect but some of that post is opinion, not fact. Tried his level best? No one can ever know that apart from the man himself. A few here can point out mistakes and issues that have led on to costing the club more time and money to rectify. Affinity? That implies a natural leaning towards Rovers... he's only here for the beer. His natural leaning was always Brighton and Hove Albion and when last in his company, some of his family had season tickets. When the policy is to outsource, invariably the affinity to a club is sometimes compromised. It's the first time we've experienced this on a wholesale basis - of course there is still a skeleton staff employed at the club - but even Brighty, the most nepotistic of appointments has jumped ship. A while back. Like you said no one will ever please 100% of fanbase, which is a good point, but I think he could do better and more: Just his idea of policy of cashless Mem has marginalised a few to say the least. It's obvious this was factored in to the decision, and it appears he doesn't care. So he hasn't tried his level best. Or have affinity with Rovers. He's made decisions that appear to negate this, and litigations against our club, some of the like have never been heard before, not including unilateral change of the club badge before outcry, sponsorship deals messed up, the lack of 1883 club and eroding it's value, blue diamond having to host somewhere other than the mem because of 'costs' lead me to think quite the opposite of some of the more positive posts here. David Bright was sacked I believe, rather than working a notice period. In fact he emailed me 2 days before he went and the next thing his Twitter went dark, his email bounced back and he wouldn't return any calls.
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Post by DrFaustus on Mar 20, 2024 22:20:09 GMT
Fair enough. You should write about it in your programme article. Get it to a wider audience? Hahaha! 😂🤣 Take it that's a 'no' then? Pity. 🏴☠️
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Post by wider on Mar 20, 2024 22:56:28 GMT
Having watched this unfold for a while I’m now going to say I’m with John Malyckyj over this.
Speculating about players and managers who are de facto public figures is bad enough but the CEO is an employee (no matter how grand the title). We don’t know the facts about the vast majority of the items being discussed. More importantly we don’t know who was responsible for many of the perceived mistakes. It appears to me that Tilly made a valid point about Mr Bright’s departure (dismissed or left of free will) as there seems to be evidence he left without notice. What else is there that is substantiated? I keep reading here of staff dismissed and taking Rovers to court but no firm evidence has ever been put forward, has it? Being CEO of Rovers must be quite stressful at the best of times I’d suggest. Tom was promoted from Commercial Director (I think) to CEO, possibly as a reward for doing a decent job? He was unusually young for such a post but as they say about players ‘if they’re good enough they’re old enough’. Things have moved on since the days of Gordon Bennett (the first CEO equivalent I remember) but too many of us haven’t. The world is a different place like it or not and we have to try and keep up. Social Media is here to stay, I personally hate it and the damage it regularly does but please let’s not self destruct on Gaschat? UTG!
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Post by aghast on Mar 20, 2024 23:21:46 GMT
Having watched this unfold for a while I’m now going to say I’m with John Malyckyj over this. Speculating about players and managers who are de facto public figures is bad enough but the CEO is an employee (no matter how grand the title). We don’t know the facts about the vast majority of the items being discussed. More importantly we don’t know who was responsible for many of the perceived mistakes. It appears to me that Tilly made a valid point about Mr Bright’s departure (dismissed or left of free will) as there seems to be evidence he left without notice. What else is there that is substantiated? I keep reading here of staff dismissed and taking Rovers to court but no firm evidence has ever been put forward, has it? Being CEO of Rovers must be quite stressful at the best of times I’d suggest. Tom was promoted from Commercial Director (I think) to CEO, possibly as a reward for doing a decent job? He was unusually young for such a post but as they say about players ‘if they’re good enough they’re old enough’. Things have moved on since the days of Gordon Bennett (the first CEO equivalent I remember) but too many of us haven’t. The world is a different place like it or not and we have to try and keep up. Social Media is here to stay, I personally hate it and the damage it regularly does but please let’s not self destruct on Gaschat? UTG! Yes but that's not really the point is it? The CEO of the club was rumoured to have left, almost certainly incorrectly, and a thread was started to discuss it. It's not about whether he is good, bad or indifferent. It's about whether he has left or not, or changed roles in some way. Seems he hasn't. OK. The thread has cleared that up. If the CEO of any organisation was rumoured to have left, the shareholders (or stakeholders in our case) would want to talk about it. It's not about attacking him. Some have, but they've been doing that for ages. The point is that we should not be made to feel guilty about discussing a rumour concerning the CEO leaving just because some people say we should.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 21, 2024 0:47:56 GMT
I get the rules now with some (and I'm not attacking the poster, not the post).
It's disrespectful to talk about the employee of the club's employment if they're young and a CEO.
But managers, players and coaching staff are fair game.
Truly unfathomable. How many pages of thread of Barton and his staff discussed this over his tenure? Hundreds.
How many have posted which players they would keep and why for next season and how much a contract extension or how long to offer or not? Hundreds.
Shades of double standards here.
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Post by phillistine on Mar 21, 2024 8:07:30 GMT
I get the rules now with some (and I'm not attacking the poster, not the post). It's disrespectful to talk about the employee of the club's employment if they're young and a CEO. But managers, players and coaching staff are fair game. Truly unfathomable. How many pages of thread of Barton and his staff discussed this over his tenure? Hundreds. How many have posted which players they would keep and why for next season and how much a contract extension or how long to offer or not? Hundreds. Shades of double standards here. I am not trying to say what is right or what is wrong simply that there is a difference between them . Players, and coaching staff are criticised and the public have an understanding of their roles and they are to a certain extent masters of their own destiny. A manager often has restrictions that no-one really knows about though many choose to discuss their problems in the press so that people know what is going on . A CEO however is working within a remit set by the Board of Directors and as an employee may have to take actions that they dont necessarily agree with. They cant say anything in the press about it as it would be disloyal. From the comments that Tom made during the Q and A - it is possible to get the impression that until August last year the emphasis was not to spend money on the ground as it was not our future home - but all that has changed since the decision was made to improve the Mem and commit to this stadium for an additional period of time. The owners son is taking direct responsibility for much of the big spend simply because he is experienced in such matters and what is evident from the meeting has a good presence and will get people to like him and want to please him. Tom has different life experiences and is perhaps focussing on his areas of strength. The last paragraph is little more than guesswork on my behalf simply by the way that they conducted themselves during the Q and A - so take from it what you wish.
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Post by horfield on Mar 21, 2024 8:07:37 GMT
I think when the year end accounts 2023 due to be filed before the end of this month will show us all whether the club is in a better place since his appointment as CEO. Or will they simply show the money JB (over) spent with Wael's full backing? The new co-owners have already warned us they won't make good reading.
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Post by horfield on Mar 21, 2024 8:15:54 GMT
Without question the 2023 accounts will show up Barton's reckless spending and an owners sycophantic weak control but isn't that why you have a CEO at a club, to make sure the club is run properly and is a tight financial ship free of false dawns and fans pleasing announcements like the FM drone release.
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Post by eric on Mar 21, 2024 8:28:21 GMT
Without question the 2023 accounts will show up Barton's reckless spending and an owners sycophantic weak control but isn't that why you have a CEO at a club, to make sure the club is run properly and is a tight financial ship free of false dawns and fans pleasing announcements like the FM drone release. If TG completely ignored the owner and did his own thing we wouldn’t be speculating about whether he’s likely to be sacked - we’d be talking about him having already been sacked. He wouldn’t have lasted ten seconds.
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 21, 2024 8:31:06 GMT
Amusing that David Bright seems to have gone from zero to hero, in order to fit into the anti-TG agenda. At the time, DB was seen as being responsible for some of the cock-ups which are now being laid at TG's door, and people couldn't wait to get rid of him. Nowt so fickle as us football fans! Not I. I've been pretty consistent in my stance on the Crown Prince of Idiocy. Exile him in St Helena.
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Post by eric on Mar 21, 2024 8:32:17 GMT
I get the rules now with some (and I'm not attacking the poster, not the post). It's disrespectful to talk about the employee of the club's employment if they're young and a CEO. But managers, players and coaching staff are fair game. Truly unfathomable. How many pages of thread of Barton and his staff discussed this over his tenure? Hundreds. How many have posted which players they would keep and why for next season and how much a contract extension or how long to offer or not? Hundreds. Shades of double standards here. I’m not sure if it’s appropriate to speculate on whether an employee is facing the sack or not, seems mixed views on the subject. That’s all a bit different than alleging an employee has been continually breaking employment law, unlawfully sacking employees and creating legal actions which are costing the club fortunes but no evidence whatsoever to back it up (at the moment).
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Post by DrFaustus on Mar 21, 2024 8:32:53 GMT
I get the rules now with some (and I'm not attacking the poster, not the post). It's disrespectful to talk about the employee of the club's employment if they're young and a CEO. But managers, players and coaching staff are fair game. Truly unfathomable. How many pages of thread of Barton and his staff discussed this over his tenure? Hundreds. How many have posted which players they would keep and why for next season and how much a contract extension or how long to offer or not? Hundreds. Shades of double standards here. Surely a one page article in a 3rd division programme hardly anyone buys anymore would even out matters?
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Mar 21, 2024 9:59:24 GMT
Amusing that David Bright seems to have gone from zero to hero, in order to fit into the anti-TG agenda. At the time, DB was seen as being responsible for some of the cock-ups which are now being laid at TG's door, and people couldn't wait to get rid of him. Nowt so fickle as us football fans! Not I. I've been pretty consistent in my stance on the Crown Prince of Idiocy. Exile him in St Helena. Hold your horses, he could be a good contact point if we want to purchase a top of the range, large screen tv for the ground. Mates rates!
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 21, 2024 10:01:34 GMT
Not I. I've been pretty consistent in my stance on the Crown Prince of Idiocy. Exile him in St Helena. Hold your horses, he could be a good contact point if we want to purchase a top of the range, large screen tv for the ground. Mates rates! So he's to blame for BabeStationgate?
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Post by SleepyGas on Mar 21, 2024 11:05:39 GMT
Hold your horses, he could be a good contact point if we want to purchase a top of the range, large screen tv for the ground. Mates rates! So he's to blame for BabeStationgate? I still find it very funny that there is only one signal box feeding all the screens at the Mem.. although I was bit miffed when I was watching the last few minutes of a 6N rugby game in the bar at half time a few weeks ago and the channel changed to Sky Sports News
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 21, 2024 12:14:24 GMT
So he's to blame for BabeStationgate? I still find it very funny that there is only one signal box feeding all the screens at the Mem.. although I was bit miffed when I was watching the last few minutes of a 6N rugby game in the bar at half time a few weeks ago and the channel changed to Sky Sports News Sounds like an upgrade to me!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 21, 2024 12:16:49 GMT
What a waste of time
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