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Post by SleepyGas on Mar 21, 2024 13:49:17 GMT
I still find it very funny that there is only one signal box feeding all the screens at the Mem.. although I was bit miffed when I was watching the last few minutes of a 6N rugby game in the bar at half time a few weeks ago and the channel changed to Sky Sports News Sounds like an upgrade to me! I presume they put the rugby on at HT as there were no football updates.. but when games started kicking off in the 2nd half they put Sky Sports News back on. Fair enough now I come to think of it But the last few seconds of the rugby was actually quite gripping and I was a bit put out not to catch the very end !!
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Post by gasify on Mar 21, 2024 21:08:51 GMT
"Best Fan Engagement by a Club" Good work Bristol Rovers. *Ironic cheer* I actually feel more disengaged that ever!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 21, 2024 23:10:34 GMT
"Best Fan Engagement by a Club" Good work Bristol Rovers. *Ironic cheer* I actually feel more disengaged that ever! Not sure if you’re suggesting this is a good thing or not, or if you’re genuinely saying you’re disengaged. However, these award ceremonies in business often involve paying a fee and submitting a business case as to why it should win. Then send along some employees on an excuse for a water up. More to do with who coughs up the cash to enter than who has genuinely done a good job over the last 12 or so months. I’d rather the club humbly went about its business ensuring our club is a bloody good club to support with working toilet facilities, adequate ticketing processes, proper communication and engagement with its fans rather than engaging in unnecessary hubris to try and find something sexy to put on their LinkedIns. Marketing of the away shirt was good but I honestly could not tell you what they might possibly be up for when it comes to the other two awards and genuinely not convinced we deserve it at all.
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Post by gasify on Mar 22, 2024 6:33:14 GMT
"Best Fan Engagement by a Club" Good work Bristol Rovers. *Ironic cheer* I actually feel more disengaged that ever! Not sure if you’re suggesting this is a good thing or not, or if you’re genuinely saying you’re disengaged.However, these award ceremonies in business often involve paying a fee and submitting a business case as to why it should win. Then send along some employees on an excuse for a water up. More to do with who coughs up the cash to enter than who has genuinely done a good job over the last 12 or so months. I’d rather the club humbly went about its business ensuring our club is a bloody good club to support with working toilet facilities, adequate ticketing processes, proper communication and engagement with its fans rather than engaging in unnecessary hubris to try and find something sexy to put on their LinkedIns. Marketing of the away shirt was good but I honestly could not tell you what they might possibly be up for when it comes to the other two awards and genuinely not convinced we deserve it at all. I think we agree. I can't see much that Rovers have done to increase fan engagement: 1) Send an email out after each game? 2) Nah, got nuffink I am obviously missing something (yeah, maybe they paid for the nomination) as my view is when you have a fans director on the board who cannot do anything for the fans, you are actively disengaging the fan base.
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Post by horfield on Mar 22, 2024 7:57:07 GMT
Not sure if you’re suggesting this is a good thing or not, or if you’re genuinely saying you’re disengaged.However, these award ceremonies in business often involve paying a fee and submitting a business case as to why it should win. Then send along some employees on an excuse for a water up. More to do with who coughs up the cash to enter than who has genuinely done a good job over the last 12 or so months. I’d rather the club humbly went about its business ensuring our club is a bloody good club to support with working toilet facilities, adequate ticketing processes, proper communication and engagement with its fans rather than engaging in unnecessary hubris to try and find something sexy to put on their LinkedIns. Marketing of the away shirt was good but I honestly could not tell you what they might possibly be up for when it comes to the other two awards and genuinely not convinced we deserve it at all. I think we agree. I can't see much that Rovers have done to increase fan engagement: 1) Send an email out after each game? 2) Nah, got nuffink I am obviously missing something (yeah, maybe they paid for the nomination) as my view is when you have a fans director on the board who cannot do anything for the fans, you are actively disengaging the fan base.
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Post by horfield on Mar 22, 2024 8:03:31 GMT
Very interesting about award ceremonies. He's engineered a few of these such awards in the past and it was difficult to see why. This season with the fiasco of the South Stand it must be amongst the worse as fans we have suffered since the Bath days. He's obviously trying to cling on to his job and bag a second chance.
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Post by holmesgas1 on Mar 22, 2024 8:18:36 GMT
Very interesting about award ceremonies. He's engineered a few of these such awards in the past and it was difficult to see why. This season with the fiasco of the South Stand it must be amongst the worse as fans we have suffered since the Bath days. He's obviously trying to cling on to his job and bag a second chance. You are having an absolute laugh about worse since Bath days. We have a new stand, in pretty quick time. May have been a few bumps in the road, but a lot better for us fans. I can remember choosing my seat at Cheltenham, so in your eyes that was better. Seems you have an agenda. Pray tell.
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Post by supergas on Mar 22, 2024 8:25:55 GMT
Very interesting about award ceremonies. He's engineered a few of these such awards in the past and it was difficult to see why. This season with the fiasco of the South Stand it must be amongst the worse as fans we have suffered since the Bath days. He's obviously trying to cling on to his job and bag a second chance. A quick scan through the various categories suggests it's not based on any kind of merit. Plymouth have three nominations, Birmingham have three, Brentford have five, Brighton have six, Fulham two, Southampton two, Norwich two, Manchester United three, Chelsea six and Rovers have three nominations... In unrelated news the judging panel includes the CEO of Plymouth, the COO of Birmingham, the Chief Executive of Brentford, the Chief Executive of Brighton, the Chief Executive of Fulham, the CEO of Southampton, the Finance and Operations director of Norwich, the COO of Manchester United, the CRO of Chelsea ...and the CEO of Bristol Rovers...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2024 9:19:40 GMT
Very interesting about award ceremonies. He's engineered a few of these such awards in the past and it was difficult to see why. This season with the fiasco of the South Stand it must be amongst the worse as fans we have suffered since the Bath days. He's obviously trying to cling on to his job and bag a second chance. A quick scan through the various categories suggests it's not based on any kind of merit. Plymouth have three nominations, Birmingham have three, Brentford have five, Brighton have six, Fulham two, Southampton two, Norwich two, Manchester United three, Chelsea six and Rovers have three nominations... In unrelated news the judging panel includes the CEO of Plymouth, the COO of Birmingham, the Chief Executive of Brentford, the Chief Executive of Brighton, the Chief Executive of Fulham, the CEO of Southampton, the Finance and Operations director of Norwich, the COO of Manchester United, the CRO of Chelsea ...and the CEO of Bristol Rovers... so basically patting each other on the back for doing nothing.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 22, 2024 9:29:19 GMT
My god. Everyone on here acting like TG is the only person at the football club. Just using the South Stand argument, I very much doubt he told WAQ and AAS that we are building the stand, it was likely the other way around.
To me the "putting extension on the east stand" plan tells you a lot, the new owners are all about do things fast and cheap - that is what you all got with the South stand.
Unfortunately the South Stand took longer to build and without permission to build in first place. More questions for the owners than TG.
Again, a lot of you seem happy with bodge jobs, so expect the same of the East stand unless the club has learnt it's lesson.
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Post by darkbluegas on Mar 22, 2024 10:05:54 GMT
My god. Everyone on here acting like TG is the only person at the football club. Just using the South Stand argument, I very much doubt he told WAQ and AAS that we are building the stand, it was likely the other way around. To me the "putting extension on the east stand" plan tells you a lot, the new owners are all about do things fast and cheap - that is what you all got with the South stand. Unfortunately the South Stand took longer to build and without permission to build in first place. More questions for the owners than TG. Again, a lot of you seem happy with bodge jobs, so expect the same of the East stand unless the club has learnt it's lesson. I think the reason we're accepting of the fast bodge jobs is that it marks a massive leap forward from the malaise offered by previous owners.
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Post by supergas on Mar 22, 2024 10:36:25 GMT
My god. Everyone on here acting like TG is the only person at the football club. Just using the South Stand argument, I very much doubt he told WAQ and AAS that we are building the stand, it was likely the other way around. To me the "putting extension on the east stand" plan tells you a lot, the new owners are all about do things fast and cheap - that is what you all got with the South stand. Unfortunately the South Stand took longer to build and without permission to build in first place. More questions for the owners than TG. Again, a lot of you seem happy with bodge jobs, so expect the same of the East stand unless the club has learnt it's lesson. But as CEO his day-to-day responsibilities are day-to-day operations and he is ultimately accountable for business decisions, including operations, marketing, business development, finance, human resources... ...so he's not the only person at the club, but he is responsible for the decisions and actions of many of them in all those areas - and let's be honest, we can all grumble about long-term problems, but there are many more day-to-day problems that are seemingly being ignored...
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 22, 2024 11:23:01 GMT
Amusing that David Bright seems to have gone from zero to hero, in order to fit into the anti-TG agenda. At the time, DB was seen as being responsible for some of the cock-ups which are now being laid at TG's door, and people couldn't wait to get rid of him. Nowt so fickle as us football fans! Not I. I've been pretty consistent in my stance on the Crown Prince of Idiocy. Exile him in St Helena. Without a toilet. See how he feels every Saturday at dump time...
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 22, 2024 11:23:03 GMT
Just being ignored or TG hasn't had the financial backing to improve them? I doubt it's his decision that all the TV's at the ground are operated by one remote in the bar? Nor that zero money seems to have been spent on the toilets recently?
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Post by supergas on Mar 22, 2024 11:29:32 GMT
Just being ignored or TG hasn't had the financial backing to improve them? I doubt it's his decision that all the TV's at the ground are operated by one remote in the bar? Nor that zero money seems to have been spent on the toilets recently? The buck stops with him though. If things like that should be better, he and the people who work for him need to make them better. Yes he's not installing cables or urinals. But he is deciding whether they are installed or not...
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 22, 2024 12:03:33 GMT
Just being ignored or TG hasn't had the financial backing to improve them? I doubt it's his decision that all the TV's at the ground are operated by one remote in the bar? Nor that zero money seems to have been spent on the toilets recently? The buck stops with him though. If things like that should be better, he and the people who work for him need to make them better. Yes he's not installing cables or urinals. But he is deciding whether they are installed or not... I don't believe he is making such decisions, if Wael decided that he wasn't going to spend a penny on the toilets then TG could hardly over-rule him and decide to spend £100K+ refurbishing them. It seems the new co-owner has now agreed to find the network upgrades at the Mem, which you only have to assume Wael refused to fund, likewise the new ovens costing£150K.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 22, 2024 12:14:09 GMT
Wasn’t it reported that at the fans evening Abdullatif mentioned new toilets were on the way and that he asked TG where they were?
So where are they?
As said, buck stops with him.
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Post by chewbacca on Mar 22, 2024 12:22:37 GMT
Wasn’t it reported that at the fans evening Abdullatif mentioned new toilets were on the way and that he asked TG where they were? So where are they? As said, buck stops with him. Sounds like there might be a block in place. Get it? Like toilet block? Haha, very funny... Seriously though send Tom Gorringe to a prison block!
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 22, 2024 12:30:32 GMT
Wasn’t it reported that at the fans evening Abdullatif mentioned new toilets were on the way and that he asked TG where they were? So where are they? As said, buck stops with him. The only new toilets which were mentioned were for the South Stand but that seemed part of the work taking place to complete the concourse area.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Mar 22, 2024 13:10:32 GMT
Baffled at the far from subtle agenda quite a few seem to have against TG..
Having met him a couple of times I found him a pleasant, if a little corporate for my tastes, chap who was very clearly an ambitious guy. I distinctly recall thinking when I first met him that he was exactly what we needed at the time. We had not long come out of the dark days of Nick Higgs's rein and under Wael were starting to look like we might at least have a go at being a professionally run football club!
We will never really know who has had in what over the last ten years or so, but he must surely be given some of the credit for the changes at the Mem. We now have a very respectable club shop, corporate area under the East stand, main bar behind the blackthorn and indeed a brand new south stand. All of these changes not only increase revenue, but they also help in taking us out of the dark ages! Before TG and Wael, the Mem resembled an aging folk center in all of the hospitality areas, it now looks like a proper football club!
Talk of this being the worst period for the club since the Bath days is frankly embarrassing. You had may as well just say you do not like the guy personally and have done if that is the sort of nonsense you are going to spout. It was not too long ago that we trained on an army base an hour away every single day! We now have a very respectable training base of our own 15 mins from the Mem. As above, we now have hospitality areas that do not feel as though you have stepped in to the 1970's! We have a stadium that whilst 75% pig ugly, does at least now look at least close to a proper football stadium rather than the cricket come rugby come tennis arena. As well as these larger changes, there are plenty of smaller tweaks that have helped modernize us.
No doubt that TG's tenure has also been marked with mistakes, perhaps none more glaring then the South Stand fiasco.. But ultimately, we do not have a decent South Stand where before we had a tent. The first bit of proper stadium improvement we have had as a club for what, 50 years?? That alone is progress.
As I say, there is no doubt that there have been mistakes and clearly some people have been rubbed up the wrong way along the way.. But I am not sure I really understand the quite aggressive disdain on here and social media in general. As as I say, feels personal.
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