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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 10, 2024 9:27:35 GMT
He's had a window. Based off of his results and more importantly tactics so far, how can anyone be confident in allowing Taylor to completely rebuild our squad? We will become a very direct/long-ball side that's scrapping around the bottom of the table. Attendances will drop further, lower player budget, relegation looms... It's lunacy to let this happen. Exactly he was given a top 8 budget in the January window . He signed 4 players . Any club in this leauge could beat us comfortably. That is unacceptable . |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Apr 10, 2024 9:31:55 GMT
Has to go. There is no way we can allow him to completely rebuild in the summer. We need a progressive, front-foot, attacking manager - with some personality. Not this lower league Southgate. A good analogy 💙Utg |
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Post by Goose on Apr 10, 2024 9:34:17 GMT
Or crack? 🤣
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Apr 10, 2024 9:58:14 GMT
Anybody know the attendance last night ? 💙Utg
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Post by kampucheagas on Apr 10, 2024 10:00:40 GMT
I’ve put unsure, for now
I don’t think it’s wise to continually sack every 5 minutes, and to be fair to him he’s not had a chance to build
HOWEVER it’s worrying that he can’t get a tune out of this current squad. He sounded like a beaten man after last night, how many more times will he keep repeating how weak we are!
It’s his job to make us better, and let’s be honest, we look like a really rubbish outfit.
Problem for me, who is available and who would see us as an attractive proposition? The last shortlist sent shudders down my spine, and would you trust the current owners to get it right? I wouldn’t.
Give him the rest of the season, see if he can finish strong and then identify where we go from there. The fact we started the game with no real striker says it all about where we are at the moment. Poor decisions all season means it’s a miracle we aren’t going down.
UTG
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Post by Gasshole on Apr 10, 2024 10:02:24 GMT
Not looking good for Mr Sparkles…..the people have spoken.
If you don’t go all in for a quality striker, you are asking to be sacked…..and you will be.
Seen it time and time again……it’s a false economy, especially when you ending up paying out failed Manager after failed Manager to stay at home …and cut the grass
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Apr 10, 2024 10:04:25 GMT
Anybody know the attendance last night ? 💙Utg I'm not sure we'll ever know the true figure. I wasn't there, but will still be counted as will other missing season ticket holders. |
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Post by melrosegas on Apr 10, 2024 10:06:22 GMT
Anybody know the attendance last night ? 💙Utg Attendance not posted on X and we were back to about 10 updates for the whole 90 minutes. Thought we had a new media guy? |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 10, 2024 10:07:38 GMT
What part of my body I decide to wax has f**k all to do with you Hugo 😃 |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 10, 2024 10:22:55 GMT
Sack but I don't think the board have given him enough support. Something didn't feel right early on, it was as if the goalposts had been moved slightly to what MT expected when entering the building. We've gone from one extreme to the other with JB and MT. Frustrating thing is seeing Nathan Jones doing so well at Charlton, a bloke I would have loved here. Probably not competing with the likes of Charlton though in terms of £££. I think we need to separate the two expectations . I agree the board haven't backed him with a top 6-8 budget . I have questioned even if our budget is in the top 6-8 many times on this forum. However : the board have given manager(s) a good reasonable budget. Taylor was given a very very good budget in the January window. The fact is based on 10 match current form we are now in the relegation zone . If this was repeated we could be fighting relegation. This is unacceptable based on the squad budget and the additional given by the board in January. No one us saying ' we should be top 10'. The problem we have is anyone can now beat us. Fans in the south stand we're signing self defeating songs last night to cheer up the gloom. |
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Post by dmacca65 on Apr 10, 2024 10:41:21 GMT
Sack but I don't think the board have given him enough support. Something didn't feel right early on, it was as if the goalposts had been moved slightly to what MT expected when entering the building. We've gone from one extreme to the other with JB and MT. Frustrating thing is seeing Nathan Jones doing so well at Charlton, a bloke I would have loved here. Probably not competing with the likes of Charlton though in terms of £££. I think we need to separate the two expectations . I agree the board haven't backed him with a top 6-8 budget . I have questioned even if our budget is in the top 6-8 many times on this forum. However : the board have given manager(s) a good reasonable budget. Taylor was given a very very good budget in the January window. The fact is based on 10 match current form we are now in the relegation zone . If this was repeated we could be fighting relegation. This is unacceptable based on the squad budget and the additional given by the board in January. No one us saying ' we should be top 10'. The problem we have is anyone can now beat us. Fans in the south stand we're signing self defeating songs last night to cheer up the gloom. On the last point top 10, we should have easily been able to secure that in my opinion with the players at our disposal, we've just gone 7 games where 7 more points than what we gained would have seen us 12 with a game in hand over the next four above, the club has blown a great chance of achieving a very respectable finish and a clear improvement on last season, something fundamentally wrong here that the ambition, motivation, lack of quality or whatever other reasons there are going on have seen us fall far short of it going out with less than a whimper! |
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Post by gasbath on Apr 10, 2024 11:09:09 GMT
Very damming again last night. We looked and felt like the away side.
Slow sideways backwards football predictable compared to Reading who had the whole squad up for sale in Jan with a lot going.
They just waited with pressure football for us to make mistakes which we duly did with fast precise passing cut us to pieces time and time again.
Compared to us currently surly has the sh!@er end of the stick but didn’t look like it.
That’s coaching style for me not players not playing.
All managers up & down the pyramid inherit squads many don’t get any windows. Managers job is to get a tune out of them.
As they saying goes it’s not how you start it’s how you finish
God help us UTG
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 10, 2024 11:23:59 GMT
So the snapshot poll shows only 20% back him in the first 100 opinions. I wonder how many of the 20% would back him if we fail to win any of our last 4 ?. Maybe 10-15 % ,?.
That don't bode well for recruiting players or selling STs . The next 4 games will be interesting.
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Post by GasAttacK on Apr 10, 2024 11:37:04 GMT
I think if we'd had this run of form a couple of months ago and there were still 10-14 games to go, it would be 100% sack.
Taylor got off to a good start in December with wins over Crewe, Bolton, Pompey and Charlton, and built up a little credit.
The next 12 games were bang average, P12, W5, L7.
The last 7 have been shocking, and as I said at the start, had they come a little earlier in the season I think he'd be gone.
However, with only 2 weeks of the season to go, can we realistically sack him?
Do we have time to find and appoint a replacement?
Last time it took about 6 weeks. We'd nearly be in June. Who would decide which players to keep and which to release? Would most of the best summer signings be snapped up by other clubs while we're still looking for a manager?
Honestly, I don't know. Part of me definitely thinks he has to go. Our form in 2024 has been poor and the recent run of 7 games without a win or a goal is simply unacceptable, but part of thinks it's just too late in the season to be looking for a new manager.
I can understand both arguments. I'm still unsure but after yesterday, for the first time, I'm starting to edge towards sack. Saturday is huge.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 10, 2024 11:48:53 GMT
Until yesterday I was in the keep corner but that first half was a mess and formation cost us the game. Agree they are not his players but you’d think he could get a tune out of Brown given they were together at Exeter, and that’s also what makes me think he may not be the man to have the summer transfer window. Some of this lays at the new owners door, you don’t get rid of your manager until you have identified a short list to replace him. Also he laid the foundations for Rotherham’s relegation and he has a summer window for them. I’m just glad we’re all but mathematically safe as I can’t see where another win or goal is coming from. So there’s no point in getting rid of Taylor now unless we’ve got a manager lined up ….. which at this time of the season would be very very unlikely. |
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Post by clovis on Apr 10, 2024 11:58:22 GMT
I’m in the back him camp, if only because I went to Stevenage and Orient and saw some decent football and a lot of spirit. I didn’t see last night’s effort.
But 7 games is a long time in football and I wondered if MT might get the boot first thing this morning.
It would be interesting to see what the owners do if we lose the last four games of the season, but stayed up anyway (it would take some very freakish results for us to get relegated). Fingers crossed for a win or two.
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Post by gaelgas on Apr 10, 2024 12:05:45 GMT
It seems like Taylor has lost the dressing room, however many of those players will likely be gone in the summer. Can Taylor get in a squad who WILL play for him? Having lost a lot of the fans already I'm no longer so sure that he can. Reluctantly, I think I'm going to vote Sack. I'm in the same camp, I'm not at all confident that he has the skills to build a squad or get them to play for him. I know it's not all about charisma but he doesn't seem to have any. I don't see any progress since he came in I'm afraid. |
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Post by gaelgas on Apr 10, 2024 12:07:58 GMT
Ridiculous to sack a manager after such a short time . Normally I'd agree with you but in this case I just don't see any potential for improvement, plus, as others have mentioned, I don't think he has the personality to inspire. |
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Post by stillstanding on Apr 10, 2024 12:11:14 GMT
No shame in admitting the appointment was a mistake, despite best of intentions. We are far from being the worst squad in this league and yet we seem determined to prove otherwise. Hard not to believe a different kind of manager might have made a better go off it, it's just a poor fit.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 10, 2024 12:30:24 GMT
Until yesterday I was in the keep corner but that first half was a mess and formation cost us the game. Agree they are not his players but you’d think he could get a tune out of Brown given they were together at Exeter, and that’s also what makes me think he may not be the man to have the summer transfer window. Some of this lays at the new owners door, you don’t get rid of your manager until you have identified a short list to replace him. Also he laid the foundations for Rotherham’s relegation and he has a summer window for them. I’m just glad we’re all but mathematically safe as I can’t see where another win or goal is coming from. So there’s no point in getting rid of Taylor now unless we’ve got a manager lined up ….. which at this time of the season would be very very unlikely. I think we should back Taylor, not least because I don't see what we are going to gain by sacking Taylor now. Presumably MT and GF are putting plans in place. Any new manager coming in if we magically appointed someone inside 24 hours will have to evaluate the squad, make decisions on who stays and goes etc, etc and we aren't going to appoint someone in the next 24 hours and the timeframe gets shorter and shorter People can have little faith in Taylor based on current results, but if we sack Taylor now, any new manager has an uphill task themselves. Are fans prepared to give a new manager a season and a free hit who potentially has little no time to do their thing because we have a potentially even more chaotic pre-season? Caught between the devil and the deep blue sea |
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