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Post by greciangas on Apr 19, 2024 19:35:46 GMT
Not sure if any have already, but it will be interesting to see if any top clubs/managers/players come out and also condemn this. I can imagine Alex Ferguson acknowledging that if his team can't beat a League Two team over 90 mins it's only fair they should have a replay. The FA Cup is not broken, but the wider game is... Exeter City drew away at Man utd when Exeter were in the conference. The draw and the replay saved us as a Football club. We (Exeter) also had our best cup run in 1981, drawing away to Leicester (4th round) and winning the replay and then drawing away to Newcastle (5th round) and again winning the replay to then play Spurs in the 6th round. Replays are good! |
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Post by eric on Apr 19, 2024 20:00:46 GMT
Not sure if any have already, but it will be interesting to see if any top clubs/managers/players come out and also condemn this. I can imagine Alex Ferguson acknowledging that if his team can't beat a League Two team over 90 mins it's only fair they should have a replay. The FA Cup is not broken, but the wider game is... Exeter City drew away at Man utd when Exeter were in the conference. The draw and the replay saved us as a Football club. We (Exeter) also had our best cup run in 1981, drawing away to Leicester (4th round) and winning the replay and then drawing away to Newcastle (5th round) and again winning the replay to then play Spurs in the 6th round. Replays are good! So really the existence of traditional replays played less a part in your clubs survival than the good fortune of your number coming out of the velvet bag at the right moment? If another club was called out instead of yours you could have folded? All the talk about the financial impact on lower league clubs seems a bit odd when it’s really about who gets lucky with the FA raffle. Share all the gate receipt revenue equally between every club who qualifies for each round of the competition. Everyone gets a fair share of the revenues. |
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Post by greciangas on Apr 19, 2024 20:13:06 GMT
Exeter City drew away at Man utd when Exeter were in the conference. The draw and the replay saved us as a Football club. We (Exeter) also had our best cup run in 1981, drawing away to Leicester (4th round) and winning the replay and then drawing away to Newcastle (5th round) and again winning the replay to then play Spurs in the 6th round. Replays are good! So really the existence of traditional replays played less a part in your clubs survival than the good fortune of your number coming out of the velvet bag at the right moment? If another club was called out instead of yours you could have folded? All the talk about the financial impact on lower league clubs seems a bit odd when it’s really about who gets lucky with the FA raffle. Share all the gate receipt revenue equally between every club who qualifies for each round of the competition. Everyone gets a fair share of the revenues. |
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Post by greciangas on Apr 19, 2024 20:17:20 GMT
When I said the 'draw' then the replay, i Was actually referring to the draw out of the velvet bag!. It was literally...the luck of the draw!
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Apr 19, 2024 22:40:40 GMT
Am I the only one who gets the feeling that football is at a breaking point?
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Post by mftc on Apr 19, 2024 23:14:23 GMT
Am I the only one who gets the feeling that football is at a breaking point? Agree. It's not the people's game anymore. More like a rich persons plaything. Chairman, agents and mega rich players are a world apart from local heroes like Alfie and Harold. |
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Post by hardingegas on Apr 19, 2024 23:52:08 GMT
I’m sorry, l’ll retract my comment about Fergie and Man U - indeed it was pressure from the FA to persuade them to compete in the World Championship - just shows the type of organisation the FA were and are now.
Referring to the smaller clubs making money out of lucrative FA Cup ties - it certainly helped Burton Albion’s rise to the Football League when they managed to earn a replay at Old Trafford back in the day under Nigel Clough.
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Post by tommym9 on Apr 20, 2024 8:49:26 GMT
The money is one thing, but then there's us fans too! Earning a replay against one of the big boys means an away day none of us are likely to forget!
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Post by gasstrictband on Apr 20, 2024 9:04:15 GMT
The rich get rich ,the poor the get poor,that's how it goes everybody knows.
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Post by supergas on Apr 20, 2024 10:39:01 GMT
So really the existence of traditional replays played less a part in your clubs survival than the good fortune of your number coming out of the velvet bag at the right moment? If another club was called out instead of yours you could have folded? All the talk about the financial impact on lower league clubs seems a bit odd when it’s really about who gets lucky with the FA raffle. Share all the gate receipt revenue equally between every club who qualifies for each round of the competition. Everyone gets a fair share of the revenues. Great in theory, in reality it probably needs to be proportionally based on attendances in some way. Otherwise if (as an example) Arsenal/Liverpool/Newcastle were drawn at home they would have the costs associated with home attendances of 50,000+. If there were other smaller clubs drawn at home those bigger clubs would be hosting that game at a loss if all ticket revenue was split evenly across 32 ties. |
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 20, 2024 23:03:46 GMT
Regarding this decision can anybody explain to me the reason for no replays in rounds one and two when premiership clubs are not involved Exactly. It doesn't affect them does it so it is all bollox.It is. And if the PL/FA are thinking that there are too many games and not enough dates they are stretching the truth. By the time the group stages of the European competitions are completed the FA Cup for them hasn’t even started. The knock out stages don’t start until March when only a few clubs are involved. Is it 7 clubs involved in Europe? After the group stage this season it was down to 5. So what they’re really saying is that the FA Cup is sacrificed for 5 clubs. Shameful. Their response is pathetic. I think it showed they were angry that their plans are being questioned and their integrity is als being questioned. The responses of Tranmere and Exeter in saying they were not consulted showed the FA up for misleading or even lying about consulting with clubs. Now the EFL have said they were not consulted properly and had not agreed to the proposals have made the FA look very poor. Their response was printed in capitals because they are furious. This is not going away. The FA will either have to back down and stop their plans with replays continuing or tell the EFL clubs to lump it and ignore the noise the EFL are making. What will the clubs do if this were to happen? If they all decide to boycott the cup I think it would bring the FA down. But all clubs would need to do it, not just a few as the FA would be able to punish a few but not all of them.The leaders would have to resign and a brand new governing body created. They’ll probably postpone the change and re-consult having made a pigs ear of this one using their 30 pieces of silver to try and bribe the clubs and the EFL to agree. Blimey, this new Football Regular is going to have a very large ‘In-tray’ to deal with. UTG! |
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 20, 2024 23:16:09 GMT
Am I the only one who gets the feeling that football is at a breaking point? Agree. It's not the people's game anymore. More like a rich persons plaything. Chairman, agents and mega rich players are a world apart from local heroes like Alfie and Harold. That went in 1992 when the PL came in. Those big 5, Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal and Tottenham, Everton (in hindsight that’s laughable) wanted a bigger share of TV revenue and thought that a PL of the best clubs could get more and keep more. Greed was good! I don’t think Chelsea was part of the group who initiated this and Man City certainly weren’t. Which is all very ironic considering where we find ourselves now. Whats happening now is just the result of that greedy decision. It’s not even the culmination because it will get worse. UTG! ps. I think I’m right about the original 5 clubs who started it all. I’m sure someone will correct me if wrong. I always remember it as the two Liverpool clubs, the two north London clubs and Man U. |
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Post by gas2 on Apr 21, 2024 4:21:39 GMT
The fa are not fit for purposes yesterday made man city play a couple of days after a Champions League quarter final then today neither teams played in Europe in the week past stupidity ZZ
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Post by mftc on May 14, 2024 16:21:11 GMT
What's the latest on this?
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Post by aghast on May 14, 2024 16:39:37 GMT
The fa are not fit for purposes yesterday made man city play a couple of days after a Champions League quarter final then today neither teams played in Europe in the week past stupidity ZZ Must be a few Gunners fans on the committee. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 14, 2024 17:40:03 GMT
Every time this pops up I think someone has died. Going to rename it.
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Post by Goose on May 14, 2024 19:59:36 GMT
Every time this pops up I think someone has died. Going to rename it. Sorry about that ☺️ |
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Post by supergas on May 15, 2024 7:50:00 GMT
25,000 signatures against it across the main petition(s) on Change.org - that's around the home attendance for just one Championship team, so doesn't seem like it will make much difference...
There is obviously a lot of opposition to it, but seemingly not enough leadership to make that opposition properly heard...
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Post by chewbacca on May 15, 2024 10:42:30 GMT
What's the latest on this? People moaned for about 12 hours about the death of football, then did nothing and it's going through. Rinse, repeat. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 20, 2024 11:40:07 GMT
Spurs get straight on a plane to Australia for a meaningless friendly, yet scrapping replays is the answer...
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