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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 27, 2024 18:43:28 GMT
Evo said he chose Huddersfield over Championship clubs so they clearly weren't the only club interested in signing him? Although my point was how do Posh get so much more for their players, it's not even double it's at least x6 more, are we known as a soft touch or are clubs more confident Posh players have had better coaching/fitness routines etc? Because they are better players in terms of investment? One assumes any championship clubs were not prepared to pay more for him. Are they though, is a LB really going to be a better long term investment than AC, who was the L1 player of the year, if he'd been at Posh they would have been asking for £5m, likewise Evo would have probably gone for £3m+. Posh seem to operate in a different world, transfer values wise, to the rest of L1. |
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 27, 2024 19:33:53 GMT
Looks like we missed out on Jack Sparkes, was all set to sign on Weds then Peterborough have come in at the last minute and beat us to the signing I read that Posh stepped in front of ‘another League 1 club’. Ferguson was saying he knew the players agent and that helped divert the player after it had been agreed! They said they needed that position after Adebilisi had a bad injury. I wondered if it was us seeing that MT must have known Sparkes from their Exeter days. I’m now presuming it was. Oh well, but it looks like we’re well covered in the FB positions. UTG! |
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 28, 2024 8:40:52 GMT
There was probably a delay in signing him due to the team being in Portugal. This is one of the downsides to playing abroad in the close season. The fact we have not signed anybody during the time the team has been out of the Country would seem to indicate this. Lets hope in the next week we will see a bit more action in the market with hopefully the marque signing of a striker and another winger/attacking player and that will probably finish the squad for now unless somebody became available that was too good to miss.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 28, 2024 8:46:48 GMT
How can a LB be a better investment than the L1's attacking player of the year, if AC had been a Posh player he would have been sold for £m's.
Posh can't be producing better players than the rest of L1 as if they were they wouldn't be stuck in L1.
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Post by kampucheagas on Jul 28, 2024 9:05:25 GMT
How can a LB be a better investment than the L1's attacking player of the year, if AC had been a Posh player he would have been sold for £m's. Posh can't be producing better players than the rest of L1 as if they were they wouldn't be stuck in L1. Makes you mad doesn’t it!! Truth is we have no backbone when it comes to selling, and clubs know this Both Collins and Evans were worth much much more than we got, and Posh (and others) strike harder deals. Why? Maybe we panic and look at the worst case scenario of players running down contracts, but it hurts when you see us getting pathetic fees for outstanding League 1 talent. UTG |
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Post by Quarters on Jul 28, 2024 9:32:14 GMT
What are the state of Peterborough's finances?
They got nothing for JCH at the end of the day, does this suggest they did not need the income of a transfer fee and is wages?
Yes I know their were two deals that fell through because of JCH demands, but Posh could have lowered the fee to compensate for that.
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Post by albaron on Jul 28, 2024 11:19:43 GMT
What are the state of Peterborough's finances? They got nothing for JCH at the end of the day, does this suggest they did not need the income of a transfer fee and is wages? Yes I know their were two deals that fell through because of JCH demands, but Posh could have lowered the fee to compensate for that. Listening to their owners comments. It seems they are relying on Ivan Toney being transferred from Brentford. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 28, 2024 11:24:23 GMT
Posh have sold Mason Clarke, Ronnie Edwards & Burrows for around £10M since January, so I'd have thought their finances are in decent shape, although the stadium owners have put the company into admin!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 28, 2024 11:25:15 GMT
What are the state of Peterborough's finances? They got nothing for JCH at the end of the day, does this suggest they did not need the income of a transfer fee and is wages? Yes I know their were two deals that fell through because of JCH demands, but Posh could have lowered the fee to compensate for that. Listening to their owners comments. It seems they are relying on Ivan Toney being transferred from Brentford. Not the £10m received already? |
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Post by pirate on Jul 28, 2024 11:26:36 GMT
What are the state of Peterborough's finances? They got nothing for JCH at the end of the day, does this suggest they did not need the income of a transfer fee and is wages? Yes I know their were two deals that fell through because of JCH demands, but Posh could have lowered the fee to compensate for that. Listening to their owners comments. It seems they are relying on Ivan Toney being transferred from Brentford. Already brought in about £6m this summer. |
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 28, 2024 11:40:05 GMT
What are the state of Peterborough's finances? They got nothing for JCH at the end of the day, does this suggest they did not need the income of a transfer fee and is wages? Yes I know there were two deals that fell through because of JCH demands, but Posh could have lowered the fee to compensate for that. I’ve no idea about the state of their finances but.. They have been expecting Brentford to sell Toney for upwards of £50m of which they would get a sizeable chunk (25%?) and they have been expecting that for the last few windows. This week I read that because the top clubs aren’t prepared to pay that (at the moment), the fee may well be far lower and in two reports I read it was suggested Toney himself is thinking about just running down his contract and leaving for free next summer. I’ve no insight but from what was looking like an expectation of £10/11m from the sell on Posh may well be looking at something a lot smaller or even nothing! I bet that thought will concentrate the mind of Darren McD. |
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Post by madridgas on Jul 28, 2024 11:49:28 GMT
What are the state of Peterborough's finances? They got nothing for JCH at the end of the day, does this suggest they did not need the income of a transfer fee and is wages? Yes I know their were two deals that fell through because of JCH demands, but Posh could have lowered the fee to compensate for that. In the four years to June 2023 they lost in total £7m despite a profit on players over that time of about £10m. We read about how much they make from transfers, but perhaps ignore how much they have paid out. Over the same four years they spent £6m on players |
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Post by eric on Jul 28, 2024 12:34:08 GMT
What are the state of Peterborough's finances? They got nothing for JCH at the end of the day, does this suggest they did not need the income of a transfer fee and is wages? Yes I know their were two deals that fell through because of JCH demands, but Posh could have lowered the fee to compensate for that. Listening to their owners comments. It seems they are relying on Ivan Toney being transferred from Brentford. Since the latest stupid financial rules were brought into the Prem transfer fees have started to dry up as clubs are paranoid about point deductions. It’s ridiculous and will see less money coming into the game which through the transfer system usually filters it’s way down to the lower divisions |
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 28, 2024 13:20:02 GMT
Listening to their owners comments. It seems they are relying on Ivan Toney being transferred from Brentford. Since the latest stupid financial rules were brought into the Prem transfer fees have started to dry up as clubs are paranoid about point deductions. It’s ridiculous and will see less money coming into the game which through the transfer system usually filters it’s way down to the lower divisions I don’t know if these rules are stupid or not eric. But I do know that these wealthy PL clubs will find ways around the rules as they stand. This year the last week of June certainly had the feel of a transfer deadline week. Presumably the money men at these clubs were telling the clubs to sell or make up as much money as they could to avoid breaking financial rules and therefore points deductions. So now we have the Ist September the end of the transfer window. And we have the end of June the cut off point for financial fair play. A tad silly but done for the right reasons perhaps. But clubs are finding away around the rules. As they always do! UTG! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 28, 2024 13:44:18 GMT
Newcastle sold EA for £35m earlier in the summer and now rumoured everyday with signing players for £30m+, they are just moving the money around, not spending less.
What does seem noticeable this summer is hardly any Championship players seem to be moving into the Premiership.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 28, 2024 13:46:06 GMT
What are the state of Peterborough's finances? They got nothing for JCH at the end of the day, does this suggest they did not need the income of a transfer fee and is wages? Yes I know their were two deals that fell through because of JCH demands, but Posh could have lowered the fee to compensate for that. In the four years to June 2023 they lost in total £7m despite a profit on players over that time of about £10m. We read about how much they make from transfers, but perhaps ignore how much they have paid out. Over the same four years they spent £6m on players In the same 4 years we probably lost somewhere between £12m & £16m and never got anywhere near being L1 play off contenders. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 28, 2024 13:51:34 GMT
What are the state of Peterborough's finances? They got nothing for JCH at the end of the day, does this suggest they did not need the income of a transfer fee and is wages? Yes I know there were two deals that fell through because of JCH demands, but Posh could have lowered the fee to compensate for that. I’ve no idea about the state of their finances but.. They have been expecting Brentford to sell Toney for upwards of £50m of which they would get a sizeable chunk (25%?) and they have been expecting that for the last few windows. This week I read that because the top clubs aren’t prepared to pay that (at the moment), the fee may well be far lower and in two reports I read it was suggested Toney himself is thinking about just running down his contract and leaving for free next summer. I’ve no insight but from what was looking like an expectation of £10/11m from the sell on Posh may well be looking at something a lot smaller or even nothing! I bet that thought will concentrate the mind of Darren McD. Concentrate is mind on what, how to spend "just" the £10m they've received in the last 6 months, rather potentially £20m? Although I can't see Brentford turning down £40m this summer just because they need another striker for a few months. |
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Post by madridgas on Jul 28, 2024 14:00:29 GMT
In the four years to June 2023 they lost in total £7m despite a profit on players over that time of about £10m. We read about how much they make from transfers, but perhaps ignore how much they have paid out. Over the same four years they spent £6m on players In the same 4 years we probably lost somewhere between £12m & £16m and never got anywhere near being L1 play off contenders. Just what i was thinking after i'd posted this, also like Posh, a brief flirtation with the Championship might not be great for long-term development of the club, but for many older supporters of the club would be great. I have a mate who supports Luton and you couldn't value the joy they had of being in the Prem. |
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Post by madridgas on Jul 28, 2024 15:03:31 GMT
I’ve no idea about the state of their finances but.. They have been expecting Brentford to sell Toney for upwards of £50m of which they would get a sizeable chunk (25%?) and they have been expecting that for the last few windows. This week I read that because the top clubs aren’t prepared to pay that (at the moment), the fee may well be far lower and in two reports I read it was suggested Toney himself is thinking about just running down his contract and leaving for free next summer. I’ve no insight but from what was looking like an expectation of £10/11m from the sell on Posh may well be looking at something a lot smaller or even nothing! I bet that thought will concentrate the mind of Darren McD. Concentrate is mind on what, how to spend "just" the £10m they've received in the last 6 months, rather potentially £20m? Although I can't see Brentford turning down £40m this summer just because they need another striker for a few months. Well aside from Barnet getting c£1.5m from the Ronnie Edwards sale, possibly £2m for the six players they have signed this summer, we don't know how much Darragh MacAnthony might have borrowed to buy 50% of the club back in late 2023 (The POSH Investments LLC charges recently registered against the football club ?) plus of course the c£6m still owed to OKR Finance (one of the former owners lending vehicles) to buy the stadium. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good story....lol |
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Post by eric on Jul 28, 2024 16:03:52 GMT
Newcastle sold EA for £35m earlier in the summer and now rumoured everyday with signing players for £30m+, they are just moving the money around, not spending less. What does seem noticeable this summer is hardly any Championship players seem to be moving into the Premiership. It seems mad that Newcastle, with their very wealthy owners, are having to sell players to make sure they meet this stupid set of rules. Eliot Anderson was the sacrificial lamb as because he was home grown he will be classed as 100% profit - feel sorry that his dream of representing his home town club has been ruined by the premier league suits. |
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