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Post by gasify on Jun 19, 2024 13:10:16 GMT
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Post by madridgas on Jun 19, 2024 13:26:26 GMT
Does MT have a history of announcing players later and we are following his (and possibly GF's advice) ?
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Post by madridgas on Jun 19, 2024 13:27:32 GMT
Just a few thoughts. There are some players it has been suggested we have been keen to bring into The Memorial Stadium for 2024/25. Would we have been wise to offer BETTER terms than these players have now accepted elsewhere? OR Have we been prudent and careful with the budget up to this point? 1.Josh Edwards to CAFC from DAFC. (His deal is for FOUR years. His transfer fee is almost £100k.) 2. Ronan Curtis to PVFC from AFCW. (Despite a recent ACL injury 28 year old Ronan has been given a THREE year deal.) 3. Joe Edwards remaining at PAFC. (34 in October, he has a minimum of a playing contract on Championship terms until 2025 with an agreement to transition into a coaching position on his retirement from playing, whenever that happens.) 4. Jayden Fevrier to SCFC from CUFC. (Having started just 41 league games he has a THREE year deal with an option of an additional year. He has signed for an undisclosed fee.) 5. Joe Powell to RUFC from BAFC. (Despite the recently enriched Burton Albion's declared offer of significantly improved terms he has signed a TWO year deal at Rotherham.) All of these players have qualities that make them worthy of consideration as potential signings. It seems that EACH and EVERY ONE of these players would have been a major financial commitment. Good players will not come cheap but the cost of bettering the deals that these 5 players have accepted might not have been shrewd business. Any long contracts or costly deals should be focused on the striker department. That is our Achilles Heel. At least TWO NEW STRIKERS to play with Chris Martin are essential for success.
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Post by madridgas on Jun 19, 2024 13:32:38 GMT
Just a few thoughts. There are some players it has been suggested we have been keen to bring into The Memorial Stadium for 2024/25. Would we have been wise to offer BETTER terms than these players have now accepted elsewhere? OR Have we been prudent and careful with the budget up to this point? 1.Josh Edwards to CAFC from DAFC. (His deal is for FOUR years. His transfer fee is almost £100k.) 2. Ronan Curtis to PVFC from AFCW. (Despite a recent ACL injury 28 year old Ronan has been given a THREE year deal.) 3. Joe Edwards remaining at PAFC. (34 in October, he has a minimum of a playing contract on Championship terms until 2025 with an agreement to transition into a coaching position on his retirement from playing, whenever that happens.) 4. Jayden Fevrier to SCFC from CUFC. (Having started just 41 league games he has a THREE year deal with an option of an additional year. He has signed for an undisclosed fee.) 5. Joe Powell to RUFC from BAFC. (Despite the recently enriched Burton Albion's declared offer of significantly improved terms he has signed a TWO year deal at Rotherham.) All of these players have qualities that make them worthy of consideration as potential signings. It seems that EACH and EVERY ONE of these players would have been a major financial commitment. Good players will not come cheap but the cost of bettering the deals that these 5 players have accepted might not have been shrewd business. Any long contracts or costly deals should be focused on the striker department. That is our Achilles Heel. At least TWO NEW STRIKERS to play with Chris Martin are essential for success. Great question. Certainly seem to be a number of teams that have money to burn, I Fully agree that our strike force is where we need to invest.
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Post by westfieldgas on Jun 19, 2024 13:55:26 GMT
NICK TSAROULLA - leaving Crawley Town. Excellent full back, Bristol Born, in his prime…. Potential target as we missed out on Edwards?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 19, 2024 14:04:24 GMT
So they signed before their original contract expired? Which was my point. Any more hairs you’d like to split?
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Post by lavalamp on Jun 19, 2024 14:10:45 GMT
NICK TSAROULLA - leaving Crawley Town. Excellent full back, Bristol Born, in his prime…. Potential target as we missed out on Edwards? Born in Bristol, but grew up in North London, hence why his career features time at Tottenham, Brentford and Crawley.
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Post by nortongas1 on Jun 19, 2024 14:27:16 GMT
NICK TSAROULLA - leaving Crawley Town. Excellent full back, Bristol Born, in his prime…. Potential target as we missed out on Edwards? Off to Notts County
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Post by kampucheagas on Jun 19, 2024 14:30:32 GMT
Great question. Certainly seem to be a number of teams that have money to burn, I Fully agree that our strike force is where we need to invest. Agreed. And left side of defence. The spine of a good team is there if we keep hold of them. Build a team around Taylor, Ward, Rossiter (if he stays) Evans and Thomas. We do need 2 or maybe 3 strikers and I’m excited to see exactly where we target. One who has scored regularly at League 2 and is still young and another raw hopeful from non league, alongside an experienced head to play the Martin role. I’d be looking forward to a season with some raw untried talent to get behind UTG
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Post by eric on Jun 19, 2024 14:36:18 GMT
Great question. Certainly seem to be a number of teams that have money to burn, I Fully agree that our strike force is where we need to invest. Agreed. And left side of defence. The spine of a good team is there if we keep hold of them. Build a team around Taylor, Ward, Rossiter (if he stays) Evans and Thomas. We do need 2 or maybe 3 strikers and I’m excited to see exactly where we target. One who has scored regularly at League 2 and is still young and another raw hopeful from non league, alongside an experienced head to play the Martin role. I’d be looking forward to a season with some raw untried talent to get behind UTG Probably a very big IF around whether Evans stays.
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Post by kampucheagas on Jun 19, 2024 14:46:33 GMT
Agreed. And left side of defence. The spine of a good team is there if we keep hold of them. Build a team around Taylor, Ward, Rossiter (if he stays) Evans and Thomas. We do need 2 or maybe 3 strikers and I’m excited to see exactly where we target. One who has scored regularly at League 2 and is still young and another raw hopeful from non league, alongside an experienced head to play the Martin role. I’d be looking forward to a season with some raw untried talent to get behind UTG Probably a very big IF around whether Evans stays. Ok. A good fee would be good business. I’d love to see Aguilera in that role, think there’s a real player in there. If not there’s still more to come from McCormick Hoping we can persuade him that a promotion push with the core of a settled side with him at the middle of it…. Fingers crossed UTG
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 19, 2024 16:14:35 GMT
I can't remember us ever announcing a pre contract. Who have we signed previously on a pre contract? I think a lot of it maybe down to If the player is on the released list with their clubs or been offered new contracts but out of Contract next season. I think if the player is on Released list like Lewis Gordon, announced at Chesterfield and Harvey Greenslade announced at Yeovil its all well and good. But if we have signed players that are out of contract but been offered a new deal at their existing club then its best to keep it quiet. Its like Rossister's situation with us, He may well have signed for someone else but as we have offered him a contract for next year its best the new club doesn't announce it until Contract is completed end of of June. It does make sense. Taylor Moore doesn't even have a club at present?
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Post by Sir Trevor on Jun 19, 2024 17:00:04 GMT
Wrexham are facing an unusual situation.
"For new arrivals to be accommodated, the club will need to adopt an almost one in, one out policy.
This is because Wrexham now have 21 contracted senior players, while the EFL squad limit for registration is 22."
They appear to have identified Pompey midfielder, Joe Morrell as their final player.
Their two promotions are the cause.
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Post by gasify on Jun 19, 2024 17:27:50 GMT
So they signed before their original contract expired? Which was my point. Any more hairs you’d like to split? Is that the same as a pre contract? Genuine question. None of those posts say from 1st July, none of them say that a pre contract has been signed. I don't understand why out of contract players at the end of June would not be announced. If the ones we have offered new deals to have signed with another club, the sooner we know that, the better we can all move on.
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Post by eric on Jun 19, 2024 17:29:27 GMT
Probably a very big IF around whether Evans stays. Ok. A good fee would be good business. I’d love to see Aguilera in that role, think there’s a real player in there. If not there’s still more to come from McCormick Hoping we can persuade him that a promotion push with the core of a settled side with him at the middle of it…. Fingers crossed UTG I hope I’m wrong about Evans (for me he’s one of the best players in the division) but I fear he’ll leave for one of the promotion chasing bigger sides or maybe championship. I agree about McCormick - needs a good preseason and to stay injury free and we might see the player we has a few years ago
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 19, 2024 17:31:36 GMT
So they signed before their original contract expired? Which was my point. Any more hairs you’d like to split? Is that the same as a pre contract? Genuine question. None of those posts say from 1st July, none of them say that a pre contract has been signed. I don't understand why out of contract players at the end of June would not be announced. If the ones we have offered new deals to have signed with another club, the sooner we know that, the better we can all move on. Perhaps it's simply a case of waiting for MT to return from his hols?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 19, 2024 17:32:37 GMT
Wrexham are facing an unusual situation. "For new arrivals to be accommodated, the club will need to adopt an almost one in, one out policy. This is because Wrexham now have 21 contracted senior players, while the EFL squad limit for registration is 22." They appear to have identified Pompey midfielder, Joe Morrell as their final player. Their two promotions are the cause. Wrexham could just stick unwanted players in the stand or buy up their contracts?
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Post by gasify on Jun 19, 2024 17:35:23 GMT
Is that the same as a pre contract? Genuine question. None of those posts say from 1st July, none of them say that a pre contract has been signed. I don't understand why out of contract players at the end of June would not be announced. If the ones we have offered new deals to have signed with another club, the sooner we know that, the better we can all move on. Perhaps it's simply a case of waiting for MT to return from his hols? That makes sense.
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Post by percy on Jun 19, 2024 18:01:34 GMT
DomJefferies becoming a free agent. Someone we might be interested in? Just 22.
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Post by gasify on Jun 19, 2024 19:21:48 GMT
I think a lot of it maybe down to If the player is on the released list with their clubs or been offered new contracts but out of Contract next season. I think if the player is on Released list like Lewis Gordon, announced at Chesterfield and Harvey Greenslade announced at Yeovil its all well and good. But if we have signed players that are out of contract but been offered a new deal at their existing club then its best to keep it quiet. Its like Rossister's situation with us, He may well have signed for someone else but as we have offered him a contract for next year its best the new club doesn't announce it until Contract is completed end of of June. It does make sense. Taylor Moore doesn't even have a club at present? Wouldn't be surprised if he is one of the 7 apparently alteady signed.
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