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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 3, 2015 13:27:09 GMT
You can guarantee if we had won Saturday then nearly everybody would be saying what a stupid thread this is.
Hopefully we can get a win against Lincoln to shut you lot up.
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Post by mehewmagic on Feb 3, 2015 13:48:57 GMT
Sorry Steve, I like your match reports a lot but you have had a mare on this one and should be substituted  Too many conspiracy theories at the mo. Are people forgetting that a loan agreement is of mutual benefit to both clubs, and the player? Otherwise it simply wouldn't happen. The loanee club usually pay some of his wages, and provide accommodation etc. The player gets to train and hopefully play, and gets a new atmosphere /experience. He may actually come back better/ wiser etc. the loanee club hopefully fills a gap, whether it be temporary or a little more long term. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 3, 2015 13:55:54 GMT
You can guarantee if we had won Saturday then nearly everybody would be saying what a stupid thread this is. Hopefully we can get a win against Lincoln to shut you lot up. It's more than Saturday though as we've been poor in most of our away games. If we don't strive to improve we'll always be a Conference side? If fans are happy with just signing Wakefield then, sadly, they are getting what you deserve. If we don't get out of this division this season or next we could well become a permanent Conference side once the parachute payments end. |
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Post by markczgas on Feb 3, 2015 14:05:49 GMT
"Halifax signed 3 players yesterday we get in a young inexperienced player, there must be a reason??" - Yes there is. Halifax are not second in the table and are desperate to improve. We don't have that same desperation with our squad. Yeah, yeah, yeah....Look at the mighty Man Utd. They went all out signing players yesterday.........They got a 21 year-old Left Back from Bolton on loan, and.....um......that's it! Do you think he'll go straight into the first team? Probably not eh. Jeez, this is such a stupid thread.This is a very interesting thread. Why can't you enter into a sensible discussion like others or is it rocking the boat for you too much ? |
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Feb 3, 2015 14:10:44 GMT
You can guarantee if we had won Saturday then nearly everybody would be saying what a stupid thread this is. Hopefully we can get a win against Lincoln to shut you lot up. It's more than Saturday though as we've been poor in most of our away games. If we don't strive to improve we'll always be a Conference side? If fans are happy with just signing Wakefield then, sadly, they are getting what you deserve. If we don't get out of this division this season or next we could well become a permanent Conference side once the parachute payments end. What does that even mean? There has been plenty of signings that fans have been happy about and have flopped. Writing off signings before they have played is ridiculous. |
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Post by markczgas on Feb 3, 2015 14:14:13 GMT
Della Verde was signed on loan and played regularly and would have carried on playing for longer without his injury.
Even he started on the bench?
Goldberg was a stop gap signing before we could sign Easter in the January transfer window.
How did DC know Millwall were going to buy up his contract?
Cunnington had a positive effect and impact when he was first here and only went back due to Cambridge having injuries up front.
Pretty sure he'd spent time on the bench before his recall?
Martin was a loan signing on the cheap but we his pace and set piece quality was beneficial to us for a short period.
How do you know he was on the cheap?
Dawson has only recently signed, expect him to start Saturday.
We've expected him to start the last couple of games?
Wakefield has only just signed, expect him to start Saturday.
Ditto Dawson's comments
Spiess was because we had no choice because we wouldn't have had a keeper.
Agreed but that meant he had to be played?
We must be (or should be) big payers in the Confernece why can't we attract players who go straight into the starting 11 like DC/MS promised they would sign, the only one capable of doing that, Easter, approached us!!!! Yeovil show location is not a problem signing players so there must be some other reason possibly what SK's identified, or is down to we simply won't pay enough money to attract the right player/we're trying to attract the wrong player? If we fail to go up this season it will be once again down to poor signings in January, Halifax signed 3 players yesterday we get in a young inexperienced player, there must be a reason?? Yeah, started on the bench but played regularly afterwards. Clarke was in contact with him in November, regardless we were always going to be looking to sign a striker in the January transfer window. Cunnington was dropped to the bench because he went off the boil a bit. It was obvious he was on the cheap, he wasn't even given a squad number by Luton and Higgs has even said that he would back the manager if we were doing well around xmas. At that point we didn't start great so Higgs probably reluctant to go all out in splashing the cash. Wrong - YOU have expected him to start the last couple of games. I haven't. I don't see why it is necessary to start a loanee in their first game? I would have however brought him on instead of Balanta. Wakefield - I think he will start as we only have 1 cm (Mansell) GGMI, I think a very strong argument for bringing in loanees to play straightaway is the fact that we have struggled to beat teams all season (even one's at the bottom of the table) because of this we can pretty much kiss goodbye to automatic promotion and NOW we face a fight to stay in the playoffs - Eastleigh, Halifax and Gateshead all have games in hand which if they win mean there will be a MASSIVE scrap for the playoff spots - what will you think if we don't even make the playoffs ? I think, someone like Clifford could have helped us to consolidate our position in the top 3 . With tough away games coming up (Grimsby, Gateshead etc) I'm seriously worried we can stay in the top 5, especially with our player of the season - Beardo and Easter likely to be out for a number of weeks. What do you think about this ? |
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Feb 3, 2015 14:23:34 GMT
Yeah, started on the bench but played regularly afterwards. Clarke was in contact with him in November, regardless we were always going to be looking to sign a striker in the January transfer window. Cunnington was dropped to the bench because he went off the boil a bit. It was obvious he was on the cheap, he wasn't even given a squad number by Luton and Higgs has even said that he would back the manager if we were doing well around xmas. At that point we didn't start great so Higgs probably reluctant to go all out in splashing the cash. Wrong - YOU have expected him to start the last couple of games. I haven't. I don't see why it is necessary to start a loanee in their first game? I would have however brought him on instead of Balanta. Wakefield - I think he will start as we only have 1 cm (Mansell) GGMI, I think a very strong argument for bringing in loanees to play straightaway is the fact that we have struggled to beat teams all season (even one's at the bottom of the table) because of this we can pretty much kiss goodbye to automatic promotion and NOW we face a fight to stay in the playoffs - Eastleigh, Halifax and Gateshead all have games in hand which if they win mean there will be a MASSIVE scrap for the playoff spots - what will you think if we don't even make the playoffs ? I think, someone like Clifford could have helped us to consolidate our position in the top 3 . With tough away games coming up (Grimsby, Gateshead etc) I'm seriously worried we can stay in the top 5, especially with our player of the season - Beardo and Easter likely to be out for a number of weeks. What do you think about this ? You've been worried all season but strangely don't post much when we're winning. Seems like you thrive on these threads. |
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Post by markczgas on Feb 3, 2015 14:25:08 GMT
What a shame you are having a go at a fellow Rovers supporter. What 's your opinion on what I've written - stick to the issues NOT the posters !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 14:29:43 GMT
The 'issue' is that Clifford didn't want to come to us, for whatever reason. He's not with us, never will be with us, so what's the point of going on about him?
As I said in another post, Man Utd are not short of a few bob, and they are not having the best of seasons, so who did they sign on yesterday eh?
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Feb 3, 2015 14:30:08 GMT
What a shame you are having a go at a fellow Rovers supporter. What 's your opinion on what I've written - stick to the issues NOT the posters !! Ok fair enough I apologise. Wakefield could be as good as a signing as Clifford, we just don't know yet. All this doom and gloom is unwarranted unless we start slipping down the table. |
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Post by markczgas on Feb 3, 2015 14:38:27 GMT
What a shame you are having a go at a fellow Rovers supporter. What 's your opinion on what I've written - stick to the issues NOT the posters !! Ok fair enough. Wakefield could be as good as a signing as Clifford, we just don't know yet. All this doom and gloom is unwarranted unless we start slipping down the table. Fair enough, Clifford's pedigree looks much better than Wakefield - has played I would guess at least a 100 games in L2. Wakefield - virtually nothing and this season with mid table Torquay. It doesn't fill me with any confidence . Now we haven't got Clifford, i would personally have given our own Dom Thomas (first year pro) a chance to show his worth - he's a midfield playmaker whose been with us for 3 years - even if it's just for a couple of games. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Feb 3, 2015 14:50:36 GMT
Ok fair enough. Wakefield could be as good as a signing as Clifford, we just don't know yet. All this doom and gloom is unwarranted unless we start slipping down the table. Fair enough, Clifford's pedigree looks much better than Wakefield - has played I would guess at least a 100 games in L2. Wakefield - virtually nothing and this season with mid table Torquay. It doesn't fill me with any confidence . Now we haven't got Clifford, i would personally have given our own Dom Thomas (first year pro) a chance to show his worth - he's a midfield playmaker whose been with us for 3 years - even if it's just for a couple of games. Whilst I've not seen the lad play before, I wouldn't particularly want to rely on a first year pro to hold the midfield together alongside Mansell at such a crucial stage in the season. With every passing game the pressure (and anxiety) grows, and it's not the sort of environment in which I'd want to introduce a player like Thomas into the first team. But I can see where you're coming from. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 3, 2015 14:54:10 GMT
Yeah, started on the bench but played regularly afterwards. Clarke was in contact with him in November, regardless we were always going to be looking to sign a striker in the January transfer window. Cunnington was dropped to the bench because he went off the boil a bit. It was obvious he was on the cheap, he wasn't even given a squad number by Luton and Higgs has even said that he would back the manager if we were doing well around xmas. At that point we didn't start great so Higgs probably reluctant to go all out in splashing the cash. Wrong - YOU have expected him to start the last couple of games. I haven't. I don't see why it is necessary to start a loanee in their first game? I would have however brought him on instead of Balanta. Wakefield - I think he will start as we only have 1 cm (Mansell) GGMI, I think a very strong argument for bringing in loanees to play straightaway is the fact that we have struggled to beat teams all season (even one's at the bottom of the table) because of this we can pretty much kiss goodbye to automatic promotion and NOW we face a fight to stay in the playoffs - Eastleigh, Halifax and Gateshead all have games in hand which if they win mean there will be a MASSIVE scrap for the playoff spots - what will you think if we don't even make the playoffs ? I think, someone like Clifford could have helped us to consolidate our position in the top 3 . With tough away games coming up (Grimsby, Gateshead etc) I'm seriously worried we can stay in the top 5, especially with our player of the season - Beardo and Easter likely to be out for a number of weeks. What do you think about this ? I think Clifford was out of our hands to be fair seeing as he decided to join Barnet. I also think we have been very unfortunate with our injuries, we have had our number one keeper out, our star loanee signing out, our best player now out and our marquee signing out. Who will be next Taylor? It is hard to account for injuries. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 3, 2015 14:56:04 GMT
Ok fair enough. Wakefield could be as good as a signing as Clifford, we just don't know yet. All this doom and gloom is unwarranted unless we start slipping down the table. Fair enough, Clifford's pedigree looks much better than Wakefield - has played I would guess at least a 100 games in L2. Wakefield - virtually nothing and this season with mid table Torquay. It doesn't fill me with any confidence . Now we haven't got Clifford, i would personally have given our own Dom Thomas (first year pro) a chance to show his worth - he's a midfield playmaker whose been with us for 3 years - even if it's just for a couple of games. If Clarke decided he was good enough and ready then I'm sure he would have given him a chance. Clearly you know more than Clarke though. |
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Post by rocknrollaayatollah on Feb 3, 2015 14:59:54 GMT
GGMI, I think a very strong argument for bringing in loanees to play straightaway is the fact that we have struggled to beat teams all season (even one's at the bottom of the table) because of this we can pretty much kiss goodbye to automatic promotion and NOW we face a fight to stay in the playoffs - Eastleigh, Halifax and Gateshead all have games in hand which if they win mean there will be a MASSIVE scrap for the playoff spots - what will you think if we don't even make the playoffs ? I think, someone like Clifford could have helped us to consolidate our position in the top 3 . With tough away games coming up (Grimsby, Gateshead etc) I'm seriously worried we can stay in the top 5, especially with our player of the season - Beardo and Easter likely to be out for a number of weeks. What do you think about this ? I think Clifford was out of our hands to be fair seeing as he decided to join Barnet. I also think we have been very unfortunate with our injuries, we have had our number one keeper out, our star loanee signing out, our best player now out and our marquee signing out. Who will be next Taylor? It is hard to account for injuries. The big worry is Sinclair, if he was fit this thread wouldn't exist. Matches with As a %: W 50 D 38 L 13 Matches without As a %: W 33 D 44 L 22 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 15:03:04 GMT
We are currently second in the league and yet apparently we can "kiss goodbye to automatic promotion"?! What planet are you on mark me old fruit?!
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Post by mehewmagic on Feb 3, 2015 15:06:20 GMT
We are currently second in the league and yet apparently we can "kiss goodbye to automatic promotion"?! What planet are you on mark me old fruit?! planet nervous I think to be honest we all are. just some people try not to show it |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 15:22:47 GMT
7 points away from Barnet and 9 points clear of the play off spot chasers and you are nervous?
Come on now, this is far from a disastrous situation!
The next two games will make or break our season, Lincoln are still right up there with us and despite a recent wobble, were previously in very very good form and Grimbsy will obviously be tough. 6 points from those two games and I fancy us to go on a march that will see us comfortably pass Barnet and win the league at a canter.
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Post by markczgas on Feb 3, 2015 16:01:26 GMT
Fair enough, Clifford's pedigree looks much better than Wakefield - has played I would guess at least a 100 games in L2. Wakefield - virtually nothing and this season with mid table Torquay. It doesn't fill me with any confidence . Now we haven't got Clifford, i would personally have given our own Dom Thomas (first year pro) a chance to show his worth - he's a midfield playmaker whose been with us for 3 years - even if it's just for a couple of games. Whilst I've not seen the lad play before, I wouldn't particularly want to rely on a first year pro to hold the midfield together alongside Mansell at such a crucial stage in the season. With every passing game the pressure (and anxiety) grows, and it's not the sort of environment in which I'd want to introduce a player like Thomas into the first team. But I can see where you're coming from. agree with you really but we haven't got Sinclair for some time and we didn't get anyone with the experience of Clifford, so it's either Thomas or this Bournemouth Lad ( any difference ?) - I'd like to think not - unless our youth/young pro set up is on the slide !? |
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Post by markczgas on Feb 3, 2015 16:02:35 GMT
We are currently second in the league and yet apparently we can "kiss goodbye to automatic promotion"?! What planet are you on mark me old fruit?! I stand by it , why do you think (as draw specialists of The Conf) we will win the league ? |
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