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Post by popuppirate on Jul 21, 2024 18:34:03 GMT
Prosecutor v criminal then. Come on the just
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 21, 2024 18:35:45 GMT
He's gone.
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Post by yattongas on Jul 21, 2024 18:42:28 GMT
Washington Post apparently reporting "multiple sources" that Obama has suggested Biden should "consider his candidacy." He’s going to step down citing health reasons. Nailed on. 👌
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Post by yattongas on Jul 21, 2024 18:43:50 GMT
My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as President for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my Vice President. And it’s been the best decision I’ve made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats — it’s time to come together and beat Trump. Let’s do this.
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Post by aghast on Jul 21, 2024 22:33:26 GMT
Sad to see him step down but the right decision for all concerned. It takes some guts to admit that things aren't right and others are better suited to getting the Democrats to beat Trump. These people are surrounded by sycophants who tell them what they want to hear in the hope of being rewarded later, and living in their election bunkers it must sometimes be hard to see reality. Well done Joe and I hope he wasn't put under undue pressure to quit.
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Post by yattongas on Jul 21, 2024 23:05:12 GMT
So …. Presuming Kamala gets the nod does she beat Trump/Vance ? I’ll go early and say she does.
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Post by trevorgas on Jul 21, 2024 23:29:49 GMT
So …. Presuming Kamala gets the nod does she beat Trump/Vance ? I’ll go early and say she does. Nope,would love to think so but don't think she can.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 23, 2024 11:02:43 GMT
A couple of political commentators on the radio earlier think that Trump will avoid a head to head with KH.
The thinking is that he'll lose more in the debate than by not having it in the first place.
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Post by supergas on Jul 24, 2024 7:29:57 GMT
A couple of political commentators on the radio earlier think that Trump will avoid a head to head with KH. The thinking is that he'll lose more in the debate than by not having it in the first place. Quite a few sources reporting now that Trump wants one or two more debates, although the details agreed with Biden will be subject to change now he will be debating with Harris. It will be an interesting decision for both of them because they both have different aims and different strengths/weaknesses. Trump probably doesn't need the debates to shore up his vote but also probably doesn't want to look weak by avoiding them. Harris could move the dial in the key swing states if she can take him on effectively (and her previous background suggests she might be able to but her record as VP is less inspiring).
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Post by supergas on Jul 25, 2024 7:17:05 GMT
Strong Democrat: 191
Soft Democrat: 35Toss up: 77 Soft Republican: 110
Strong Republican: 125 19 days, one assassination attempt, one party convention and one resignation later: Strong Democrat: 191 (N/C)
Soft Democrat: 79 (+44)Toss up: 33 (-44) Soft Republican: 110 (N/C)Strong Republican: 125 (N/C)
...normally the Republicans would have got a 3-5 point bump from their convention and (whilst there's not a lot of historical polling on it) you would assume they would also get a bump after the assassination attempt. This time (after Biden stepping down and Harris stepping up to steal a lot of their media coverage) if the election was today - and the polling is correct - they would win the Presidency, even if Trump took all the 'toss-up' states...
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 25, 2024 7:23:59 GMT
Strong Democrat: 191
Soft Democrat: 35Toss up: 77 Soft Republican: 110
Strong Republican: 125 19 days, one assassination attempt, one party convention and one resignation later: Strong Democrat: 191 (N/C)
Soft Democrat: 79 (+44)Toss up: 33 (-44) Soft Republican: 110 (N/C)Strong Republican: 125 (N/C)
...normally the Republicans would have got a 3-5 point bump from their convention and (whilst there's not a lot of historical polling on it) you would assume they would also get a bump after the assassination attempt. This time (after Biden stepping down and Harris stepping up to steal a lot of their media coverage) if the election was today - and the polling is correct - they would win the Presidency, even if Trump took all the 'toss-up' states... Probably a reason why Biden was persuaded to stand aside. If there is a head to head debate, it would be interesting to see what affect that had.
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Post by supergas on Jul 25, 2024 7:51:29 GMT
19 days, one assassination attempt, one party convention and one resignation later: Strong Democrat: 191 (N/C)
Soft Democrat: 79 (+44)Toss up: 33 (-44) Soft Republican: 110 (N/C)Strong Republican: 125 (N/C)
...normally the Republicans would have got a 3-5 point bump from their convention and (whilst there's not a lot of historical polling on it) you would assume they would also get a bump after the assassination attempt. This time (after Biden stepping down and Harris stepping up to steal a lot of their media coverage) if the election was today - and the polling is correct - they would win the Presidency, even if Trump took all the 'toss-up' states... Probably a reason why Biden was persuaded to stand aside. If there is a head to head debate, it would be interesting to see what affect that had. Too early to jump to too many conclusions - some specific states haven't even been polled at all yet this campaign (so the pollsters are using historical data from past Presidental and Congressional elections) and a lot of states haven't yet been polled with Harris vs Trump as opposed to Biden vs Trump. I think Harris needs the debates more than Trump - she can't look too desperate to get them though, and he can't look too scared of being in them...I think there will be at least one more (probably two), I suspect the format/channel/moderator will suit Trump better and I think they'll both get what they want from it/them - Harris will sway a lot of undecideds and Trump will shore up his core support and get more of them to actually turnout.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 25, 2024 15:12:46 GMT
"Jennifer Aniston has hit out at Donald Trump's running mate JD Vance for referring to women without children as "cat ladies". The actress shared a clip from a 2021 Fox News interview with Mr Vance on her Instagram story, in which he said: "We're effectively run in this country... by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made, and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too." He went on to name vice president Kamala Harris, US representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg, before adding: "The entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. How does it make sense that we've turned our country over to people who don't really have a stake in it?" news.sky.com/story/jennifer-aniston-hits-out-at-jd-vance-for-childless-cat-lady-comments-13184782
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 30, 2024 17:57:34 GMT
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Post by supergas on Aug 1, 2024 9:47:55 GMT
19 days, one assassination attempt, one party convention and one resignation later: Strong Democrat: 191 (N/C)
Soft Democrat: 79 (+44)Toss up: 33 (-44) Soft Republican: 110 (N/C)Strong Republican: 125 (N/C)
One week later and polls factoring in the change from Biden to Harris are starting to filter through... Strong Democrat: 140 (-51)
Soft Democrat: 86 (+7)Toss up: 61 (+28) Soft Republican: 129 (+19)Strong Republican: 122 (-3)Factoring in the change in Democratic candidate, the fallout from the Trump assassination attempt and the uplift from the Republican Convention none of the changes are a huge surprise. 97 days to the election, plenty still to play for...
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Post by oliverhelmet on Aug 1, 2024 14:34:47 GMT
Take a look at this - Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
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Post by aghast on Aug 3, 2024 0:09:20 GMT
Trump might be welcome back in North Korea I see.
He's an odd fellow, which of course many of you will have realised already.
He attacks his allies and sucks up to his enemies.
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Post by supergas on Aug 7, 2024 12:45:31 GMT
This time unless Trump does something (or the Democrats find someone) to move states that have recently voted the same way at election after election, then Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin will basically decide who is the next President... Nevada (6) latest polling: Trump 45 Harris 43Arizona (11) latest polling: Trump 48 Harris 45Georgia (16) latest polling: Trump 48 Harris 46 Pennsylvania (19) latest polling: Harris 47 Trump 47 Michigan (15) latest polling: Harris 46 Trump 44 Wisconsin (10) latest polling: Harris 47 Trump 47
Still basically a toss-up, Democrats should gain a bit after the VP announcement and due to their convention...
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Post by supergas on Aug 9, 2024 9:43:20 GMT
Strong Democrat: 140 (-51)
Soft Democrat: 86 (+7)Toss up: 61 (+28) Soft Republican: 129 (+19)Strong Republican: 122 (-3) Strong Democrat: 140 (+/- NIL)
Soft Democrat: 86 (+/- NIL)Toss up: 77 (+16) Soft Republican: 113 (-16)Strong Republican: 122 (+/- NIL)
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Post by yattongas on Aug 10, 2024 22:54:07 GMT
So …. Presuming Kamala gets the nod does she beat Trump/Vance ? I’ll go early and say she does. Nope,would love to think so but don't think she can. Looking more likely now 😉
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