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Post by phillistine on Jul 18, 2024 15:30:06 GMT
Well, since the same period in the previous season anyways... Not from where I was stood. The second half of last season was the most dire in terms of both results, performance and entertainment in many years i think that the morale of everyone at the club was as bad as i can recall but the results werent as bad as many years that preceeded it. i think that we are beginning to see that the high energy game that MT is demanding needs a squad of younger fitter players giving their all and we didnt have that. we saw disillusionment and players going through the motions. |
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Post by gasify on Jul 18, 2024 15:32:26 GMT
My memory says that both years were as dire as each other. Both with a long run of games without scoring. Empty seats and spaces on the terraces suggest otherwise. Have you forgotten our record breaking run of not scoring? I haven’t and I didn’t find it entertaining. I think you are maybe looking for an argument where there isn't one. The season before, we had empty seats. The season before the team were about 20 minutes away from breaking the lack of scoring record. It sounds like people remember last season but have forgot the previous year which was just as bad. Had a wonderful time at Cheltenham though. |
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Post by toggsy2 on Jul 18, 2024 15:43:35 GMT
Im still open on the new owners as it's still to early to tell but having said that if they deliver the new stadium upgrade then thats a big step in the right direction.
The lack of a decent stadium and decent facilities is the major thing that's holding the club back
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Post by timsburygas on Jul 18, 2024 16:46:26 GMT
So far so good, trying to run it as a business and not a toy. Really disappointed though the pizza shop owner hasn’t opened a mem franchise yet.
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Post by bathtubpirate on Jul 18, 2024 17:05:04 GMT
They've received too much flack. As MT would say, the intent is there. They're also putting money in.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 18, 2024 19:04:33 GMT
They've received too much flack. As MT would say, the intent is there. They're also putting money in. Out of interest what money of their own have they put in, as I can't see that's ever been divulged? |
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Post by bidefordgas on Jul 18, 2024 19:09:32 GMT
They've received too much flack. As MT would say, the intent is there. They're also putting money in. Out of interest what money of their own have they put in, as I can't see that's ever been divulged? They put money in to buy their controlling share in the club. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 18, 2024 19:34:51 GMT
Out of interest what money of their own have they put in, as I can't see that's ever been divulged? They put money in to buy their controlling share in the club. Do you know that for a fact? Regardless buying over 50% of Wael's & Sammi's shares is putting money into the Al-Qadi's pockets not the club's. I've no idea how the club is now being financed, I doubt anybody does on here. |
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Post by cheltenhamgas on Jul 18, 2024 20:36:27 GMT
It’s being financed by Collins , Evans and Hoole getting rid of Rossiter Finlay Grant Gordon Marquis. Reducing the wage bill for kids . May work and hope it does but would prefer to have a manager that can play a 5-3-2
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Post by gingerjoe on Jul 18, 2024 21:45:46 GMT
I think the new owners are serious and very quickley making significant changes .Give them time lets face it weve never had the financial backing until Wael arrived. Lets all give them some rsspect and a chance UTG
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Post by Gasshole on Jul 18, 2024 21:50:28 GMT
Ditto that Ginge, TBF, I reckon they’ll have us in Europe by the end of the week.
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Post by richie on Jul 19, 2024 6:14:48 GMT
the new owners are the business IMO.
haven't seen so much progress in a long time. Since they have come in the 30 odd year transfer record has gone, they appearing to have a strategy on signing players and giving 3 year deals with options, they quickly got rid of JB, and they have actually developed a part of the mem too. All this is real progress.
could it have been done better in parts - yes and at times it looks like ametuer mistakes have been made but in the context of the achievements its massive progress
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Post by gasify on Jul 19, 2024 6:54:42 GMT
They put money in to buy their controlling share in the club. Do you know that for a fact? Regardless buying over 50% of Wael's & Sammi's shares is putting money into the Al-Qadi's pockets not the club's. I've no idea how the club is now being financed, I doubt anybody does on here. Did you ever know how the club was financed? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 19, 2024 6:57:06 GMT
I've been critical and skeptical of our new owners but they appear to actually have a plan and are enacting it.
I like the idea of paying low fees for young players with an eye to turning a profit and I'm cautiously starting to get on board with that strategy.
Sustainability is the only way we will survive and at last, it looks like we are working towards that.
It's a gamble, but loosing £5M a year (or whatever people claim it to be) is a bigger risk so we should give them a little slack to see if their plan works
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Post by peterparker on Jul 19, 2024 7:24:26 GMT
they seem to want to do positives things and seem to actually have a plan and some nous about how to get it done
The criticisms from some people, at least to me seem to come down to a couple of things
The lack of understanding of the cultural aspect of British football and football knowledge, but lets be honest you could level some of that plenty of other people. They seem well intentioned, but their is a learning curve, but it seems to be going in the right direction
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Post by phillistine on Jul 19, 2024 7:30:52 GMT
they seem to want to do positives things and seem to actually have a plan and some nous about how to get it done The criticisms from some people, at least to me seem to come down to a couple of things The lack of understanding of the cultural aspect of British football and football knowledge, but lets be honest you could level some of that plenty of other people. They seem well intentioned, but their is a learning curve, but it seems to be going in the right direction are you talking about the fans learning how a proper business is run or do you seem to think that business people who have built wealth through succesful business practice should take advice fromarmchair footie fans? The VP said way back that if Rovers become competive and play good football, winning gtames then the fans will come back regardless of all the alleged own goals that certain fans seem to hughlight. Hopefully we will get to see if he is right. Cant help feeling that the niggles over the cost of the card etc..are already being overshadowed by the new players we are seeing |
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Post by gasify on Jul 19, 2024 8:11:27 GMT
I've been critical and skeptical of our new owners but they appear to actually have a plan and are enacting it. I like the idea of paying low fees for young players with an eye to turning a profit and I'm cautiously starting to get on board with that strategy. Sustainability is the only way we will survive and at last, it looks like we are working towards that. It's a gamble, but loosing £5M a year (or whatever people claim it to be) is a bigger risk so we should give them a little slack to see if their plan works People have said it for years, it's the Peterborough playbook. If Ivan Tony gets sold, that will generate more income than 5 seasons of attendance fees! I think what has happened is they have come in with a business head on. Previously, the talk has been about being more 'commercial'. That meant increasing fan costs, whether that is through beer prices, attendance price or sponsorship. Problem is, that will only add £1m, maybe £2m to the bottom line. When making losses of £5m then that is not enough. So, they have had a change of plan. The first is the exciting one for us. Buy players, develop them and sell on with a resale clause. Maybe we will get an Ivan Tony type deal in the next 5 years. Then there is the student accommodation. That would be worth around £2m of revenue each year, maybe more. I also want to see a sporting acquisition into the brand. I am scared that Lansdown will get his grubby little mits on the pitbulls. North Bristol, should be one of us! |
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Post by peterparker on Jul 19, 2024 8:35:54 GMT
they seem to want to do positives things and seem to actually have a plan and some nous about how to get it done The criticisms from some people, at least to me seem to come down to a couple of things The lack of understanding of the cultural aspect of British football and football knowledge, but lets be honest you could level some of that plenty of other people. They seem well intentioned, but their is a learning curve, but it seems to be going in the right direction are you talking about the fans learning how a proper business is run or do you seem to think that business people who have built wealth through succesful business practice should take advice fromarmchair footie fans? The VP said way back that if Rovers become competive and play good football, winning gtames then the fans will come back regardless of all the alleged own goals that certain fans seem to hughlight. Hopefully we will get to see if he is right. Cant help feeling that the niggles over the cost of the card etc..are already being overshadowed by the new players we are seeing Not saying they should take advice from football fans on business. Was more trying to say that understanding how the insane football clubs business model works is actually something that can be levelled at quite a lot of owners and fans (British or foreign) and is not something specific to the new owners I think it's fair to say their is definitely a cultural disparity and perhaps they don't/haven't quite understood some of the relationship aspects between club and fans, and I think that may have shocked they a bit (at least initially) I don't see how anyone can be overly negative about the ownership so far. There have been a few mis-steps on the way, but I think that is just down to understanding rather than anything deliberate |
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Post by timsburygas on Jul 19, 2024 8:40:33 GMT
Do you know that for a fact? Regardless buying over 50% of Wael's & Sammi's shares is putting money into the Al-Qadi's pockets not the club's. I've no idea how the club is now being financed, I doubt anybody does on here. Did you ever know how the club was financed? In the good old days the club was financed by “Wonga” loans |
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Post by gasify on Jul 19, 2024 8:54:06 GMT
Did you ever know how the club was financed? In the good old days the club was financed by “Wonga” loans To be fair to the previous regime. They only got the Wonga loan due to having a water tight court case against Sainsburys. |
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