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Post by poorblue on Aug 21, 2024 9:27:05 GMT
As for the blame directed at Hall its completely unjust, first goal was a worldie second goal could have done better but so could have the other three players before him and the last one he was completely abandoned. We all know Hall wont play but the bloke deserves a break on his debut. Without naming who he referred too the manager accepted that the YOUNG PLAYERS (except Shaw) showed they were not ready for 1st team selection. Strikers are rated by the number of goals scored. No goal no good even if you"played" well! Keepers are rated by the clean sheets kept? Whether that's due to saves made or the defence protecting the goal in front by blocking shots. Lets analyse a few points on Hall's game last night. This was almost certainly the highest game he has ever played and been tested in? I thought he made some decent saves! His distribution was poor several times and his kicking let him down occasionally (see goals comment) Spurs scored several sublime goals most keepers might have had trouble with, but was he properly protected by the Gas defence? 1st Goal there was a clear foul on a rovers player not given which left the defence exposed and whilst a great goal where was the cover to protect Hall? (defensive error?) 2nd goal he was beaten at the near post at a very tight angle (keeper error?) but Shaw was very slow to defend and just ambled out to stop the cross, was static whilst the Spurs player waltzed past him to score. (defensive error?) 3rd goal. Hall took an attacking free kick high up the pitch that went straight to Spurs who then had an empty goal to score. (keeper error) The above comments might suggest only the 3rd goal was Halls fault. |
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Post by richie on Aug 21, 2024 9:35:29 GMT
As for the blame directed at Hall its completely unjust, first goal was a worldie second goal could have done better but so could have the other three players before him and the last one he was completely abandoned. We all know Hall wont play but the bloke deserves a break on his debut. Without naming who he referred too the manager accepted that the YOUNG PLAYERS (except Shaw) showed they were not ready for 1st team selection. Strikers are rated by the number of goals scored. No goal no good even if you"played" well! Keepers are rated by the clean sheets kept? Whether that's due to saves made or the defence protecting the goal in front by blocking shots. Lets analyse a few points on Hall's game last night. This was almost certainly the highest game he has ever played and been tested in? I thought he made some decent saves! His distribution was poor several times and his kicking let him down occasionally (see goals comment) Spurs scored several sublime goals most keepers might have had trouble with, but was he properly protected by the Gas defence? 1st Goal there was a clear foul on a rovers player not given which left the defence exposed and whilst a great goal where was the cover to protect Hall? (defensive error?) 2nd goal he was beaten at the near post at a very tight angle (keeper error?) but Shaw was very slow to defend and just ambled out to stop the cross, was static whilst the Spurs player waltzed past him to score. (defensive error?) 3rd goal. Hall took an attacking free kick high up the pitch that went straight to Spurs who then had an empty goal to score. (keeper error) The above comments might suggest only the 3rd goal was Halls fault. Kinda, agree i'd also add that whilst the third goal started with a poor kick, it was 3 on 1 when the ball was in the net. |
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Post by kovy on Aug 21, 2024 9:57:41 GMT
Of course it was 3 on 1 when they scored their 3rd. Hall kicked the ball 10 yards directly to their player when our whole team is at the box waiting for him to launch it up there. It was an inexcusable mistake you can't make at the 1st team level
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Post by supergas on Aug 21, 2024 10:49:28 GMT
Just watched the extended highlights on Youtube - it actually reminded me of a lot of the A-League games we get here in Australia (the top tier). Fairly open, chances created, obviously a Premier League or Championship team would beat either team 9 times out of 10 just due to being organised better, without even taking into account individual skill levels...
...but it was watchable as a viewer and the really important thing is what our players and coaches took out of it - as long as we take positives away from it then (dare I say it) I'm slightly warming to the competition again, even though I firmly believe the U21 teams shouldn't be in it...
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Post by richie on Aug 21, 2024 11:17:18 GMT
Of course it was 3 on 1 when they scored their 3rd. Hall kicked the ball 10 yards directly to their player when our whole team is at the box waiting for him to launch it up there. It was an inexcusable mistake you can't make at the 1st team level fabulous logic, im thinking that if the kick was decent he would have immediately taken 3 players out of the game |
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Post by gas2 on Aug 21, 2024 11:28:04 GMT
How does the points system work in this cup ?
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Post by bambergashead on Aug 21, 2024 12:56:38 GMT
Of course it was 3 on 1 when they scored their 3rd. Hall kicked the ball 10 yards directly to their player when our whole team is at the box waiting for him to launch it up there. It was an inexcusable mistake you can't make at the 1st team level I was literally thinking when Hall took the free kick - please don't mess this up as they'll have an open goal. |
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Post by bambergashead on Aug 21, 2024 12:57:50 GMT
How does the points system work in this cup ? 3 for a win, 2 for a penalty win draw, 1 for a penalty loss draw and 0 for a loss. |
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Post by keygas on Aug 21, 2024 14:38:50 GMT
Pleased to hear MT praising young Kofi Shaw & saying he’s in contention for the Stockport match, I thought he was quality & mature above his age in the Plymouth friendly, hope he’s stays around the first team squad & we persist with his development & don’t let him leave the club like we did with Harvey Greenslade who I see scored the winner for Yeovil last night.
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Post by brfc on Aug 21, 2024 16:10:19 GMT
Pleased to hear MT praising young Kofi Shaw & saying he’s in contention for the Stockport match, I thought he was quality & mature above his age in the Plymouth friendly, hope he’s stays around the first team squad & we persist with his development & don’t let him leave the club like we did with Harvey Greenslade who I see scored the winner for Yeovil last night. No disrespect to Greenslade , but shaw is completely different in his progress and is definitely are brightest prospect we’ve had in years and the only way I see him leaving is a prem/championship team paying money for him so I’d try and tie him down to a long term contract. |
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Post by mftc on Sept 3, 2024 21:50:17 GMT
Exeter beat Swindon to top the group. Rovers now third in the table.
Win the last two games (in normal time) and we qualify.
With such a strong squad, we could see quite a strong line up in the next match, plus chances for Hall, Lawrence, Ellison, Shaw and Dewsbury.
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Post by mftc on Sept 24, 2024 20:09:53 GMT
Exeter beat Spurs u21 (not featuring their two best players).
Gonna have to win both remaining games, I suspect if we are to progress.
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Post by kruger on Sept 24, 2024 20:47:02 GMT
I knew this was going to end up just like Garner days, sh** in the league and almost out of 2 cups already
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Post by Beer Baron on Sept 24, 2024 20:53:55 GMT
I knew this was going to end up just like Garner days, sh** in the league and almost out of 2 cups already Didn't ever score a goal in the League Cup or do particularly well in the u21 trophy under the previous manager either, yet I seem to recall you loved him? 2 teams qualify btw and we are 1 point behind with a game in hand... |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 24, 2024 21:48:12 GMT
I knew this was going to end up just like Garner days, sh** in the league and almost out of 2 cups already Didn't ever score a goal in the League Cup or do particularly well in the u21 trophy under the previous manager either, yet I seem to recall you loved him? 2 teams qualify btw and we are 1 point behind with a game in hand... Can you honestly see us winning at Swindon or beating Exeter if MT remains in charge? |
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Post by gasify on Sept 24, 2024 21:50:20 GMT
Typical Gaschat.
We win a game in the EFL Trophy and it's, we don't care about this competition.
Given a chance to use the EFL Trophy as a way to bash the team/manager/owners then it's an important competition.
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Post by Gasshole on Sept 25, 2024 2:49:08 GMT
Didn't ever score a goal in the League Cup or do particularly well in the u21 trophy under the previous manager either, yet I seem to recall you loved him? 2 teams qualify btw and we are 1 point behind with a game in hand... Can you honestly see us winning at Swindon or beating Exeter if MT remains in charge? Yes I can , it’s not like we are playing Real Madrid in the Bernabeu. Both winnable games……let’s not forget we are unbeaten so far in this comp. I might even buy a cup final suit and book my flights and accommodation 🏆 |
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Post by blueblood1883 on Sept 25, 2024 6:28:39 GMT
I noticed that Harvey Vale scored twice for Chelsea Academy in an away win at Bromley.
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Post by kruger on Sept 25, 2024 7:14:12 GMT
I knew this was going to end up just like Garner days, sh** in the league and almost out of 2 cups already Didn't ever score a goal in the League Cup or do particularly well in the u21 trophy under the previous manager either, yet I seem to recall you loved him? 2 teams qualify btw and we are 1 point behind with a game in hand... read my post again I said almost....loved the football we played under him yes but what's that go to do with it, I just said this is turning out just like the Garner days, horrible horrible times and does not get me excited for the future |
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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 25, 2024 8:14:02 GMT
All I ever ask of the EFL Trophy group stages is that we give minutes to those who need them.
If we happen to qualify for the KO stages then great, but it's not super important IMO. I certainly wouldn't want to risk the "better" players in this competition - definitely not in the early stages.
Not that I go to any of these games anyway and I never will while they include Premier League/Championship U21/U23 teams.
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