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Post by percy on Sept 3, 2024 12:42:58 GMT
Good points both. Would assume our wages are less than last year overall, but would be good to see the numbers!
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Sept 4, 2024 19:35:58 GMT
Don't forget we also spent some of the Collins money in the mid season transfer window, although probably not much.
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Post by neilv93 on Sept 5, 2024 8:42:31 GMT
My guess, since January IN Collins - £850K (plus add ons that might now not happen - promotion, wales etc) Evans - £400k (hopefully add ons from promotion at least?) Hoole, Connolly - £50k max TOTAL - £1.3M OUT Conteh - £300K Omochere - £500K (tho be surprised if all up front?) Forde - £200K Hutch - £200K Soturiou - £150K TOTAL £1.35M So basically reinvested it all. Have I missed anyone? If you believe Transfermarkt (you don't have to, but it's a useful guide) then you're pretty close to it I think. Examples being: Promise Omochere - £500k, Isaac Hutchinson - £250k, and last season Connor Taylor - £300k, Kamil Conteh - £300k. We've, likewise, received approx £750k and £450k for Collins and Evans respectively. So approx. £1.3m received (including Hoole, Connolly etc.) and I'd guess closer to £1.5-1.75m spent in that time (with Shaq Attaq included now) - though absolutely right that we'd be spreading these costs out over the contract lengths (Promise signed a four-year deal, so we'll be 'accruing/amortizing' £125k per year, assuming that £500k is firm and not including add-ons etc.). Tribunal fees are harder to guess (for Ruel, Hoole, etc.) but the FA website says this: The Tribunal will also set out any other financial provisions or contingent payments relating to appearances, promotion, international selection, sell-on fees etc. In reaching a decision, the Tribunal may take into account some or all of the following criteria:
- The status of each Club
- The age of the player
- The amount of any transfer fee paid by the former Club on acquisition of the player and the length of time the former Club has held the player’s registration
- The terms of the new contract offered to the player by each Club
- The training and development of the player at the former Club (specialist coaching, education, welfare)
- The player’s playing record and achievements
- Substantiated interest shown in the player by other Clubs
- Other costs incurred by the former Club directly or indirectly attributable to the training and development of the player, including any relevant medical or rehabilitation costs
- Attempts made to reach an agreement concerning the amount of compensation due (evidence of any written correspondence as well as details of any phone calls or meetings between the two clubs will be required)
Rovers spending net £200-400k over, so far, 3/4 windows over the past two seasons (with January 2025 to come) is pretty far for the course for a club of our size, stature and financial position in the third-tier. The difference being now that we seem to be spending it prudently, with a plan and on young, developing players. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Sept 5, 2024 9:01:17 GMT
Either way Taylor as been given a very good budget by the board. Not suggesting a top 6 budget with the big clubs but certainly between 6-10th.
I can't ever remember Rovers spending in a 12 or 18 month period as much as they have recieved. Maybe forum users can share a season were our expenditure exceed our income?.
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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 5, 2024 9:39:15 GMT
Either way Taylor as been given a very good budget by the board. Not suggesting a top 6 budget with the big clubs but certainly between 6-10th. I can't ever remember Rovers spending in a 12 or 18 month period as much as they have recieved. Maybe forum users can share a season were our expenditure exceed our income?. I thought our expenditure has pretty much always exceeded our income? We have had record losses the last couple of seasons: www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-report-record-losses-9221415(unless you're talking purely about money made from transfers in/out?) |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2024 9:48:29 GMT
Only Birmingham have spent more on transfer fees this summer?
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2024 9:53:08 GMT
Either way Taylor as been given a very good budget by the board. Not suggesting a top 6 budget with the big clubs but certainly between 6-10th. I can't ever remember Rovers spending in a 12 or 18 month period as much as they have recieved. Maybe forum users can share a season were our expenditure exceed our income?. I thought our expenditure has pretty much always exceeded our income? We have had record losses the last couple of seasons: www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-report-record-losses-9221415(unless you're talking purely about money made from transfers in/out?) We don't normally reinvest the total sum we receive in transfer fees? This summer we seem to have even spent more on top of the fees we received for AC & Evo? |
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 5, 2024 10:11:50 GMT
Only Birmingham have spent more on transfer fees this summer? Someone said Charlton spent over a million on a striker. Not sure if that's true though. Huddlesfield bought Evans for a start, I don't know what other fees they spent though. Wrexham seemed to be linked with a lot of players and bought players like Scar from Plymouth. Bolton normally spend, over the last year they have bought a few players including Collins. Most fees are not revealed now, so a lot of it is guesswork. We have spent a good amount for us. But we still lost two players over the last 6 months, to other league 1 clubs. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Sept 5, 2024 10:36:42 GMT
Either way Taylor as been given a very good budget by the board. Not suggesting a top 6 budget with the big clubs but certainly between 6-10th. I can't ever remember Rovers spending in a 12 or 18 month period as much as they have recieved. Maybe forum users can share a season were our expenditure exceed our income?. I thought our expenditure has pretty much always exceeded our income? We have had record losses the last couple of seasons: www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-report-record-losses-9221415(unless you're talking purely about money made from transfers in/out?) Yes of course I'm talking about transfers because the thread is ' record signing fees'. It's another day to talk about season to season loses and the overall debt and how that debt is measured against assets. The fact is Taylor have had one of the best budgets in the history of the club and every penny we have had on transfers have been redistributed. Not many clubs have done that in a 18 month period?. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Sept 5, 2024 10:39:08 GMT
Only Birmingham have spent more on transfer fees this summer? It be interesting to see if any other clubs in division one have spent £1.5 in 2024 on transfer fees. Brum who else ?. You might have a point Topper. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2024 10:52:03 GMT
If Transfermarket data is correct then no other L1 team as, Charlton and Posh have splashed out on marquee type signings but not on so many different players.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2024 10:58:11 GMT
Only Birmingham have spent more on transfer fees this summer? Someone said Charlton spent over a million on a striker. Not sure if that's true though. Huddlesfield bought Evans for a start, I don't know what other fees they spent though. Wrexham seemed to be linked with a lot of players and bought players like Scar from Plymouth. Bolton normally spend, over the last year they have bought a few players including Collins. Most fees are not revealed now, so a lot of it is guesswork. We have spent a good amount for us. But we still lost two players over the last 6 months, to other league 1 clubs. Most fees are shown somewhere, we know roughly what we've spent this summer, I can't find any evidence any club, other than B'ham, has spent more this summer. |
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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 5, 2024 11:56:15 GMT
Yes of course I'm talking about transfers because the thread is ' record signing fees'. It's another day to talk about season to season loses and the overall debt and how that debt is measured against assets. The fact is Taylor have had one of the best budgets in the history of the club and every penny we have had on transfers have been redistributed. Not many clubs have done that in a 18 month period?. Well it will be very tough to tell (even after the accounts are released).. given that these fees are undisclosed and there will be sell-on's and other extras which will appear down the line (both in and out). Always fun to speculate though (I guess) |
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Post by madridgas on Sept 5, 2024 13:52:07 GMT
Someone said Charlton spent over a million on a striker. Not sure if that's true though. Huddlesfield bought Evans for a start, I don't know what other fees they spent though. Wrexham seemed to be linked with a lot of players and bought players like Scar from Plymouth. Bolton normally spend, over the last year they have bought a few players including Collins. Most fees are not revealed now, so a lot of it is guesswork. We have spent a good amount for us. But we still lost two players over the last 6 months, to other league 1 clubs. Most fees are shown somewhere, we know roughly what we've spent this summer, I can't find any evidence any club, other than B'ham, has spent more this summer. Interesting interview on Talksport with the POSH chairman. Link attached. He said that putting aside sell-on's etc. Birmingham have spent c£20m, they are the second largest at E2.1m and perhaps Wrexham third at £1.4m in the summer transfer window www.thewrexhaminsider.com/transfer-news/peterborough-chief-reveals-how-much-rob-mcelhenney-and-ryan-reynolds-spent-this-summer-after-chat-with-wrexham-ceo/ |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 5, 2024 14:42:11 GMT
I know Bolton have spent around £2.35M this window (Osei Tu-Tu £300K, Schon £800k, McAtee £1M and Lolos £250k)
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2024 14:59:21 GMT
I know Bolton have spent around £2.35M this window (Osei Tu-Tu £300K, Schon £800k, McAtee £1M and Lolos £250k) I can't find anything to suggest Bolton paid £1m for McAtee? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2024 15:00:58 GMT
I assume he's overlooked Rovers transfers and possibly Bolton's? |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 5, 2024 15:31:08 GMT
I know Bolton have spent around £2.35M this window (Osei Tu-Tu £300K, Schon £800k, McAtee £1M and Lolos £250k) I can't find anything to suggest Bolton paid £1m for McAtee? Nothing official as its undisclosed but that is the rumoured figure some of their fans are quoting. I doubt it will be far off even if its not on the nose |
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Post by madridgas on Sept 5, 2024 15:43:44 GMT
I assume he's overlooked Rovers transfers and possibly Bolton's? Conteh wasn't bought in the summer window, so our transfer spending drops to something around £1m. As for Bolton ?? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2024 16:56:13 GMT
I assume he's overlooked Rovers transfers and possibly Bolton's? Conteh wasn't bought in the summer window, so our transfer spending drops to something around £1m. As for Bolton ?? True but nobody seems to know for certain what we paid for Forde, Sotiriou, Ellison or Bolingo. |
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