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Post by Colyton Gas on Sept 2, 2024 8:53:46 GMT
Recall when Paul Buckle played 5 out and out strikers v Hereford.Score was 0-0!!!!!!!
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Post by Fetch on Sept 2, 2024 9:16:16 GMT
I really liked the tweak in system vs Cambridge
Previously we'd been playing two holding midfielders in Conteh and Ward, with a variation on different front threes - either a CAM behind two Strikers, or two wider forwards either side of a CF.
This didn't really work as I think Conteh and Ward struggled to get the ball forwards and opposition smothered us in midfield to stop attacks early.
Against Cambridge we played Conteh as a DM, with Garrett and Ward higher, and two Strikers ahead of them. Just gave us so much more bite in the middle and also we could transition the ball much faster and actually get it to the strikers and the high wingbacks.
Not sure how Forde will fit in, if we stick to this 3-5-2 that worked better against Cambridge. I think most likely he'll come on and be a striker alongside Omochere, in the same role as Sotiriou?
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Post by willytopp84 on Sept 2, 2024 9:28:58 GMT
Be most likely that Ruel and Forde share game time and o'donker comes in whenever needed late on.
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Post by bathtubpirate on Sept 2, 2024 9:37:53 GMT
Only issue is that IIRC Ruel and Forde have an existing partnership so there may be some pressure to play them together.
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Post by eric on Sept 2, 2024 9:40:17 GMT
I fully expect it to be a battle out of Shaq and Sotiriou to start alongside Omochere rather than trying to shoehorn them all into the same team. And then Martin plus the one who misses out to be on the bench. And if I am honest, I don't see O'Donkor as anything more than a bench filler whilst Martin is injured but I may well be wrong. With injuries, loss of form, suspensions etc, none of our strikers are going to be available for the whole season and it is nice to have some real quality options for when that does happen. Agree on O’Donkor and doubt we’ll see much of him on the pitch - will struggle to make the bench a lot I would imagine. I don’t think we have to shoehorn our attacking players in if we went 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 which I suspect are the most common formations up and down the EFL? At the moment Luke Thomas is being shoehorned in to a back five to get him in the starting XI |
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Sept 2, 2024 9:47:42 GMT
I fully expect it to be a battle out of Shaq and Sotiriou to start alongside Omochere rather than trying to shoehorn them all into the same team. And then Martin plus the one who misses out to be on the bench. And if I am honest, I don't see O'Donkor as anything more than a bench filler whilst Martin is injured but I may well be wrong. With injuries, loss of form, suspensions etc, none of our strikers are going to be available for the whole season and it is nice to have some real quality options for when that does happen. Agree on O’Donkor and doubt we’ll see much of him on the pitch - will struggle to make the bench a lot I would imagine. I don’t think we have to shoehorn our attacking players in if we went 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 which I suspect are the most common formations up and down the EFL? At the moment Luke Thomas is being shoehorned in to a back five to get him in the starting XI They may be the most common formations but it doesn't seem to appear to be the way Taylor wants to set up judging by all the pre-season games and our 5 competitive games this season. If you couple this with the amount of CBs we have in the squad and our other general recruitment, I can't see Taylor moving away from the back 5 anytime soon, especially when you consider it has been a positive start to the season. |
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Post by percy on Sept 2, 2024 9:56:53 GMT
I fully expect it to be a battle out of Shaq and Sotiriou to start alongside Omochere rather than trying to shoehorn them all into the same team. And then Martin plus the one who misses out to be on the bench. And if I am honest, I don't see O'Donkor as anything more than a bench filler whilst Martin is injured but I may well be wrong. With injuries, loss of form, suspensions etc, none of our strikers are going to be available for the whole season and it is nice to have some real quality options for when that does happen. I think we can play them all, with a 4-3-3, but then no room for Thomas (RS on the left, SF on the right and PO through the middle), but that would mean a move away from 3-5-2 we are currently playing. Great to have otpions and a strong bench. Agree about O'Donkor. He is cover for Promise. But Forde will be hard not to start and Soturiou looked like a Collins replacement on Saturday. Exciting?! |
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 2, 2024 10:13:12 GMT
What a position to be in. For me this really shows just how good the recruitment has been. Unlike some I can see further than the game ahead and long term I see Hutchison in the starting team.He is just taking a little longer to settle having come from the league below but with the attacking signings we now have made I can see him fitting in well and bringing more goal flair to the side. Where is Linsay-is he injured because he would be the natural replacement for Conteh this week? I have also been impressed with Anthony when he has played and there is also still Sousa who also looks good.
In attack I see Sotoriou and Forde playing together a lotalthough both have been mentioned as wingers as well as strikers. The options are endless especially as Omochere is undroppable at the moment and I see this position continuing. I see there being more defensive options on the bench being used in away games.
For me I would like to see less use of substitutes when unnecessary like Saturday. You dont have to use five subs just because they are available.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 2, 2024 10:23:50 GMT
What a position to be in. For me this really shows just how good the recruitment has been. Unlike some I can see further than the game ahead and long term I see Hutchison in the starting team.He is just taking a little longer to settle having come from the league below but with the attacking signings we now have made I can see him fitting in well and bringing more goal flair to the side. Where is Linsay-is he injured because he would be the natural replacement for Conteh this week? I have also been impressed with Anthony when he has played and there is also still Sousa who also looks good. In attack I see Sotoriou and Forde playing together a lotalthough both have been mentioned as wingers as well as strikers. The options are endless especially as Omochere is undroppable at the moment and I see this position continuing. I see there being more defensive options on the bench being used in away games. For me I would like to see less use of substitutes when unnecessary like Saturday. You dont have to use five subs just because they are available. I was thinking the same. Antony Evans took a while to get going in L1 after being one of the best midfielders in L2, albeit he was asked to play a wasted deeper role for a while. Hopefully Hutch' wont take as long to start impressing. Agree with the subs. I guess he is trying to get as many players minutes to keep them happy, but I rarely see improvement after making so many in one go, not just for us thats the case for a lot of games ive seen. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 2, 2024 10:30:45 GMT
I fully expect it to be a battle out of Shaq and Sotiriou to start alongside Omochere rather than trying to shoehorn them all into the same team. And then Martin plus the one who misses out to be on the bench. And if I am honest, I don't see O'Donkor as anything more than a bench filler whilst Martin is injured but I may well be wrong. With injuries, loss of form, suspensions etc, none of our strikers are going to be available for the whole season and it is nice to have some real quality options for when that does happen. Agree on O’Donkor and doubt we’ll see much of him on the pitch - will struggle to make the bench a lot I would imagine. I don’t think we have to shoehorn our attacking players in if we went 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 which I suspect are the most common formations up and down the EFL? At the moment Luke Thomas is being shoehorned in to a back five to get him in the starting XI Why would O'D struggle to make the bench as who else in the present squad could replace PC when he tires? Whether he'll still getting game time when Martin returns to fitness is down to how he performs in the next 2 to 3 months. I'm not really sure CM fits into the way MT wants us to play this season. |
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 2, 2024 10:38:00 GMT
Topper gas I agree I too am not sure if Chris Martin will actually be more than a late substitute when he does return. It is not really his game to chase around which seems to be MTs preferred method and I like it.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 2, 2024 10:39:37 GMT
What a position to be in. For me this really shows just how good the recruitment has been. Unlike some I can see further than the game ahead and long term I see Hutchison in the starting team.He is just taking a little longer to settle having come from the league below but with the attacking signings we now have made I can see him fitting in well and bringing more goal flair to the side. Where is Linsay-is he injured because he would be the natural replacement for Conteh this week? I have also been impressed with Anthony when he has played and there is also still Sousa who also looks good. In attack I see Sotoriou and Forde playing together a lotalthough both have been mentioned as wingers as well as strikers. The options are endless especially as Omochere is undroppable at the moment and I see this position continuing. I see there being more defensive options on the bench being used in away games. For me I would like to see less use of substitutes when unnecessary like Saturday. You dont have to use five subs just because they are available. I was thinking the same. Antony Evans took a while to get going in L1 after being one of the best midfielders in L2, albeit he was asked to play a wasted deeper role for a while. Hopefully Hutch' wont take as long to start impressing. Agree with the subs. I guess he is trying to get as many players minutes to keep them happy, but I rarely see improvement after making so many in one go, not just for us thats the case for a lot of games ive seen. Hutch looks far too lightweight to me, good on the ball, poor without it, I'm not sure how you teach a player to tackle at this stage of his career. Given MT is clearly going to now play two strikers you do wonder where Hutch fits in if Garrett and Ward are both regularly available for selection, if they aren't will McCormick or Hutch be next in line for the ACM role on Saturday? |
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Post by eric on Sept 2, 2024 10:46:11 GMT
I fully expect it to be a battle out of Shaq and Sotiriou to start alongside Omochere rather than trying to shoehorn them all into the same team. And then Martin plus the one who misses out to be on the bench. And if I am honest, I don't see O'Donkor as anything more than a bench filler whilst Martin is injured but I may well be wrong. With injuries, loss of form, suspensions etc, none of our strikers are going to be available for the whole season and it is nice to have some real quality options for when that does happen. I think we can play them all, with a 4-3-3, but then no room for Thomas (RS on the left, SF on the right and PO through the middle), but that would mean a move away from 3-5-2 we are currently playing. Great to have otpions and a strong bench. Agree about O'Donkor. He is cover for Promise. But Forde will be hard not to start and Soturiou looked like a Collins replacement on Saturday. Exciting?! I’d have LT in the number 10 position in a 4-2-3-1. That would allow Promise to play down the middle as No.9 with Shaq and Sotiriou either side. Conteh and Garrett in the deeper midfield positions. |
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Post by Fetch on Sept 2, 2024 11:01:56 GMT
I was thinking the same. Antony Evans took a while to get going in L1 after being one of the best midfielders in L2, albeit he was asked to play a wasted deeper role for a while. Hopefully Hutch' wont take as long to start impressing. Agree with the subs. I guess he is trying to get as many players minutes to keep them happy, but I rarely see improvement after making so many in one go, not just for us thats the case for a lot of games ive seen. Hutch looks far too lightweight to me, good on the ball, poor without it, I'm not sure how you teach a player to tackle at this stage of his career. Given MT is clearly going to now play two strikers you do wonder where Hutch fits in if Garrett and Ward are both regularly available for selection, if they aren't will McCormick or Hutch be next in line for the ACM role on Saturday? Still young, Evans put on a stone of muscle after his first season at this level and looked much better for it, plus he took time to adapt to the physicality of the league. Far too soon to write Hutch off, only been four games. |
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Post by igotgas on Sept 2, 2024 11:34:22 GMT
So far Hutchinson has shown more in his defensive work than he has had opportunity to in his attacking work.
To write him off as too lightweight is laughable.
He’s 6’3” and likely 13 stone looking at him!!
He’s played Northampton, Rotherham away and Stockport away which are three of the most physically demanding games he could’ve played to begin the season and none of those games gave anyone any real opportunity to display technical abilities.
It was no surprise at all to see Saturday at the first time we’ve really seen the best of Luke Thomas and he had also found life difficult in the previous three games.
The Tottenham game showed he has the technical ability and his defensive work particularly v Rotherham was pretty good.
It’s a 50+ game season and to write anyone off after beating Cambridge at home in August is pretty silly really.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 2, 2024 11:53:50 GMT
Who can score the winner v Barnsley?
Shaq can, Shaq can, Shaq Shaq, Shaq can...
(Remorse for DC the manager?)
I feel for you...
I'll get me coat!
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 2, 2024 11:58:51 GMT
After 4 league games you can’t write off anyone can you really?
I’d say it was unlikely that MT would change his back 3 at this stage. 3 clean sheets out of 4 is a huge improvement on last season and a good basis on which to build. MTs problem now is to keep us defensively strong but we work on getting the midfield combination and attacking options working to be more creative. Easier said than done perhaps.
I like a traditional back 4 always think a back 3 can, when under pressure as we often are away from home, turn into a back 5 with the midfield swamped and the sole striker isolated. It happened at Rotherham and we got away with a point thanks to a MOM display from the keeper. That won’t always happen. No proof but I suspect that in the away matches at the better teams we will set up to be defensively strong and forego some attacking options, stay in the match for as long as possible and change it as the match progresses. At least with the signings on Friday we now have more options of strong and pacier strikers. We’ll have more idea about MT will do it after Saturday when Barnsleybwill be a test.
UTG!
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Post by nailseamark on Sept 2, 2024 12:16:10 GMT
So far Hutchinson has shown more in his defensive work than he has had opportunity to in his attacking work. To write him off as too lightweight is laughable. He’s 6’3” and likely 13 stone looking at him!! He’s played Northampton, Rotherham away and Stockport away which are three of the most physically demanding games he could’ve played to begin the season and none of those games gave anyone any real opportunity to display technical abilities. It was no surprise at all to see Saturday at the first time we’ve really seen the best of Luke Thomas and he had also found life difficult in the previous three games. The Tottenham game showed he has the technical ability and his defensive work particularly v Rotherham was pretty good. It’s a 50+ game season and to write anyone off after beating Cambridge at home in August is pretty silly really. 13 stone is not impressive at all. It’s actually at the very low end of what a 6’3 person should be. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 2, 2024 12:25:40 GMT
So far Hutchinson has shown more in his defensive work than he has had opportunity to in his attacking work. To write him off as too lightweight is laughable. He’s 6’3” and likely 13 stone looking at him!! He’s played Northampton, Rotherham away and Stockport away which are three of the most physically demanding games he could’ve played to begin the season and none of those games gave anyone any real opportunity to display technical abilities. It was no surprise at all to see Saturday at the first time we’ve really seen the best of Luke Thomas and he had also found life difficult in the previous three games. The Tottenham game showed he has the technical ability and his defensive work particularly v Rotherham was pretty good. It’s a 50+ game season and to write anyone off after beating Cambridge at home in August is pretty silly really. Nobody is writing him just suggesting it would be difficult to see who MT would now drop if Conteh, Garrett and Ward are all fit and in form. If you disagree then who would you drop for the Wigan game? It's good to see we seem to have good competition for several places as it will surely keep players on their toes. |
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Post by igotgas on Sept 2, 2024 12:26:58 GMT
It is when your body fat is at about 5%!!
It’s 83 Kg, Google had Ronaldo at 83 and Mbappe at 76 and Haaland at 87.
Who Scored has most of our squad between 82 and 65 James Wilson at 82, Taylor Moore at 80….
It was guess and it actually has Hutchinson at 70 which I’m gonna doubt to be honest as it also has him at 5’10” 🤣 so I’m guessing they guess the weight in line with what they have their height at.
I’d say 80kg for 6’3” is about right given the low body fat. These guys are extremely stream lined.
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