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Post by stevek192 on Sept 7, 2024 18:51:59 GMT
Games are won and lost mainly in midfield and ours went missing for most of the game. POersonally felt today that Griffiths made two excellent saves but the rest were saves you would expect your keeper to save. If fans would stop saying it could be four or five. At this level players miss chances. If we had taken a couple of excellent chances it coul;d have been a different result.In truth our midfield lacked a Conteh today as he was away on International duty and the injured Lindsay is the only other defensive midfielder
We are still gelling against a team who basically lost in the Play offs last year. MT is not sure of his best side yet and is that hardly surprising- we are five games in . Some on here talk like we are twenty five games in .
We are going to have to get used to mixed results especially until we have a settled balanced midfield.,
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Post by Gashead73 on Sept 7, 2024 19:09:42 GMT
They fought....They flied bitbtjeyngabrbtheir all. 6 games o let's not get judgemental.
Early days' I call the Gasheads to the Banner
Keep the faith and keepmypurebsupport of these young lads
I've had a feeling..I'll try again tomorrow sometime
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Post by igotgas on Sept 7, 2024 19:10:29 GMT
We’re not 5 games in though are we.
MT had 8 games pre season to work this out as well as 5 league games and two cup games.
I make it 15 games.
All pre season he played a strong team and a weak team in each friendly and his strong team always consisted of Conteh Hutchinson and Ward. 3 games into the league campaign with 4 points on the board he chose to break that up and play both Macca and Garrett on the back of very very poor games v Tottenhams kids.
People were blinded by a result rather than a performance last week and today got exposed for exactly what we have shown to be….lacking any real pattern or style in our play and an attempt to fill the side with functional players.
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Post by Gashead73 on Sept 7, 2024 19:12:16 GMT
They fought....They flied bitbtjeyngabrbtheir all. 6 games o let's not get judgemental. Early days' I call the Gasheads to the Banner Keep the faith and keepmypurebsupport of these young lads I've had a feeling..I'll try again tomorrow sometime When I'm no watered |
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Post by bluegas on Sept 7, 2024 19:17:14 GMT
MT's post match comments, like a few on this thread he seems to have been watching a different game: "We’ve took a play-off team to the wire, if not more today," Taylor said post-match. "There’s not much in that game. They were the better team for the first 20 minutes but from that point on I was really pleased with our performance. It's worrying if he really was pleased with that performance? No, no, we weren't too far away. |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 7, 2024 19:26:18 GMT
Feel like my afternoon was overshadowed somewhat by an absolute idiot sat in the row behind me,
right at the front of the stand.
He spent the whole of the second half shouting vile abuse at anyone and everyone, including calling Taylor a ‘boring Special lady garden’ and shouting the N-word repeatedly. He then went on to shouting vile sexual comments at young female working for Barnsley.
I honestly felt ashamed and embarrassed.
What made it worse was the fact I was with my 5-year-old lad, who wanted to watch from as close to the pitch as possible. Before I get the ‘why didn’t you say something’ comment, the stewards were in ear-shot and completely ignored him and I didn’t want a scene with my son with me.
I did speak to a friend of his and he apologised for his mate’s behaviour. I’ve no idea why anyone would want to be associated with this cretin.
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Post by eric on Sept 7, 2024 19:32:20 GMT
Perhaps it's comments like that which allow the club to under perform for years? MT, like JB last season, seems to have got decent backing from the board but we still don't look any closer from moving from a bottom side to a top 10 side. We all knew Ward wasn't going last many games before he picked up an injury but we don't seem to have signed an obvious replacement, neither Garrett or Hutch looks like obvious No 8's, Garrett was virtually invisible today and Hutch already seemingly out of favour. I think if Ward is injured and with Conteh back, he has to go with Conteh behind Garrett and Hutchinson, who played as an 8 last season not a 10. I have no idea what Hutchinsons done but to sign him for what we did and with his goal record, to not even throw him on today at 2-1 seemed odd to me. Does MT have trouble with players of this ilk? Macca / Brown for example? Is Lindsay nearing fitness and likely to be available? |
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Post by madgas on Sept 7, 2024 19:34:19 GMT
Feel like my afternoon was overshadowed somewhat by an absolute idiot sat in the row behind me, right at the front of the stand. He spent the whole of the second half shouting vile abuse at anyone and everyone, including calling Taylor a ‘boring Special lady garden’ and shouting the N-word repeatedly. He then went on to shouting vile sexual comments at young female working for Barnsley. I honestly felt ashamed and embarrassed. What made it worse was the fact I was with my 5-year-old lad, who wanted to watch from as close to the pitch as possible. Before I get the ‘why didn’t you say something’ comment, the stewards were in ear-shot and completely ignored him and I didn’t want a scene with my son with me. I did speak to a friend of his and he apologised for his mate’s behaviour. I’ve no idea why anyone would want to be associated with this cretin. Shame. Sorry to hear this. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 7, 2024 19:36:58 GMT
MT's post match comments, like a few on this thread he seems to have been watching a different game: "We’ve took a play-off team to the wire, if not more today," Taylor said post-match. "There’s not much in that game. They were the better team for the first 20 minutes but from that point on I was really pleased with our performance. It's worrying if he really was pleased with that performance? No, no, we weren't too far away. We were miles away, apart from Sinclair's effort we created nothing of note, at the other end Barnsley probably had 10 efforts similar to Sinclair's or better. |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 7, 2024 19:38:12 GMT
No, no, we weren't too far away. We were miles away, apart from Sinclair's effort we created nothing of note, at the other end Barnsley probably had 10 efforts similar to Sinclair's or better. Promise missed a great chance in 2nd half. |
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Post by eric on Sept 7, 2024 19:40:13 GMT
Games are won and lost mainly in midfield and ours went missing for most of the game. POersonally felt today that Griffiths made two excellent saves but the rest were saves you would expect your keeper to save. If fans would stop saying it could be four or five. At this level players miss chances. If we had taken a couple of excellent chances it coul;d have been a different result.In truth our midfield lacked a Conteh today as he was away on International duty and the injured Lindsay is the only other defensive midfielder We are still gelling against a team who basically lost in the Play offs last year. MT is not sure of his best side yet and is that hardly surprising- we are five games in . Some on here talk like we are twenty five games in . We are going to have to get used to mixed results especially until we have a settled balanced midfield., Is it our midfielders or the formation they are being asked to play in? Is it not a worry that in the away games we are allowing the opposition to have about 20 shots on our goal? (Something the whole team are accountable for). It wouldn’t be too bad if we were getting the same number ourselves as that gives us a fair chance of picking up results - we have to either really tighten up, get more organised and hope the players improve in this formation or maybe look to change it if it continues? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 7, 2024 19:41:46 GMT
Games are won and lost mainly in midfield and ours went missing for most of the game. POersonally felt today that Griffiths made two excellent saves but the rest were saves you would expect your keeper to save. If fans would stop saying it could be four or five. At this level players miss chances. If we had taken a couple of excellent chances it coul;d have been a different result.In truth our midfield lacked a Conteh today as he was away on International duty and the injured Lindsay is the only other defensive midfielder We are still gelling against a team who basically lost in the Play offs last year. MT is not sure of his best side yet and is that hardly surprising- we are five games in . Some on here talk like we are twenty five games in . We are going to have to get used to mixed results especially until we have a settled balanced midfield., The results away from home aren't mixed we basically go away, play poorly and loose, apart from the odd turn around at Stevenage in the second half we've basically been doing the same for months. if we lose at Peterborough we'll probably do likewise at Huddersfield and that would leave just Burton as the only away game we've any chance of picking up points in the first two months of the season. |
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Post by eric on Sept 7, 2024 19:42:36 GMT
We were miles away, apart from Sinclair's effort we created nothing of note, at the other end Barnsley probably had 10 efforts similar to Sinclair's or better. Promise missed a great chance in 2nd half. That chance and the goal came from absolute shocking defensive mistakes from Barnsley rather than created by ourselves - I think that was the point being made? I might be wrong. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 7, 2024 19:48:09 GMT
Promise missed a great chance in 2nd half. That chance and the goal came from absolute shocking defensive mistakes from Barnsley rather than created by ourselves - I think that was the point being made? I might be wrong. That's the issue we are hardly creating any chances, from memory we've hardly created anything in any of our away games, at Rotherham I recall LM blasted our only decent chance over the bar and Sinclair mis-controlled the ball when though on goal at Stockport, I can't recall us doing a lot better at Cardiff. Do our wide players ever put the ball into the box or our CM's shoot from distance? |
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Post by holmesgas1 on Sept 7, 2024 19:51:45 GMT
They were streets ahead in the first 20, but not after that. This team will grow, and I’m very surprised you cannot see a plan. It may not be one you like, but I believe if we stick with it, we will see more wins, than losses, and I can only see this team getting stronger in the next couple of seasons. Here’s hoping. Ps remove the dark glasses I don’t see a plan at the moment at all. We have a GK who’s been MoM 4/5 and we concede 16-18 shots on goal a game yet laud our defensive work and load the team with players with no flair. We recruited for 352 but left the only natural wing back out the side for every league game til he got injured v Tottenham and spent 6 figures on a player who averaged a goal involvement ever other game over the last 100 EFL games (and who has the same ratio here btw) on the bench when we’re a goal down….while still playing players with a history of underachieving. I said last week we have picked a midfield that will have a combined goal tally of 3-5 by end of season but don’t have a 20 goal a season striker….how many games does that win you? I’m not sure you understand the economics of football. You have to take punt in life, based upon developing players with our budget. For us we have spent a lot,but it does not buy you a proven league 1 or 2 marksman unless you want to for a has been in JCH. We are taking a punt on potential both with Promise and Forde. If one of them comes off we have a 1 to 2 million pound striker on our hands. Promise shows lots of potential and Forde comes with glowing reports. We don’t have 15 Million like Birmingham to splash, plus I know who I’d rather have for the long term security of both clubs. |
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Post by biggles on Sept 7, 2024 19:55:29 GMT
i dont like to pick on rovers player but what did thomas do
i can understand bartons frustration with him
he seems to be able to turn it on against weaker teams
but not like today when its needed is it a confidence thing
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Post by onedaygas83 on Sept 7, 2024 19:58:13 GMT
From the off and up until the 30th minute we allowed them at least 5 yards between us and their players with the ball. It was chalk and cheese between today and last Saturday interms of pressing, hunger and desire to win the game but what do our fans expect from us when we have 16 new players in during the summer? I look at clubs like Wrexham for example and if by some miracle they do go up 3rd season on the trott then they will never be ready for that level so my point is that we are clearly building a foundation for a serious challenge next year so I think we need to except that this season will probably be a mixture of good and bad (inconsistent results)that will end us up finishing mid table which isn't bad considering how strong this division is now and that we basically have a whole new team. Stick with it and stick with the fact we arnt going to be challenging the playoffs this year. UTG x
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Sept 7, 2024 19:59:23 GMT
Genuinely some of the commented on here !!
We're 5 league games in after bringing in 16 new players, however much some want to pretend otherwise it takes time to build partnerships & understanding.
A lot of those new players have been brought in on long term contracts as future assets and we're getting posters virtually writing them off less than a month in.
We get it some don't like MT and it seems as soon as we have a poor result the knives are back out. IMO he's here for the long term, you don't do what we have over the summer only to rip it up before most of the new boys have even had time to learn everyone's names.
It's a plan that's going to take time & patience unfortunately that seems in pretty short supply with some on here.
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Post by igotgas on Sept 7, 2024 20:02:24 GMT
I don’t see a plan at the moment at all. We have a GK who’s been MoM 4/5 and we concede 16-18 shots on goal a game yet laud our defensive work and load the team with players with no flair. We recruited for 352 but left the only natural wing back out the side for every league game til he got injured v Tottenham and spent 6 figures on a player who averaged a goal involvement ever other game over the last 100 EFL games (and who has the same ratio here btw) on the bench when we’re a goal down….while still playing players with a history of underachieving. I said last week we have picked a midfield that will have a combined goal tally of 3-5 by end of season but don’t have a 20 goal a season striker….how many games does that win you? I’m not sure you understand the economics of football. You have to take punt in life, based developing players with our budget. For us we have spent a lot but it does not but you a proven league 1 or 2 marksman unless you want to for a has been in JCH. We are taking a punt on potential both with Promise and Forde. If one of them comes off we have 1 to 2 millions pound striker on our hands. Promise shows lots of potential and Forde comes with glowing reports. If you think we 15 Million like Birmingham, plus I know who I’d rather have for the long term security of both clubs. How on earth have you come to the conclusion that I don’t understand the economics from that? I haven’t suggested that we needed or wanted a player like JCH (although I’d argue Stansfield has both resale and current value). My point was a tactical one and if the strikers you have are young / potential based or players that will grow with the club or provide resale value then right now you have to source goals and attacking threat from other avenues to subsidise the fact that hey won’t be prolific. The only midfield player we have with a proven track record of scoring goals, who we spent a large portion of our limited funds on, hasn’t got on the pitch for two games based on the fact we weren’t free flowing in games away at Stockport and Rotherham. So being patient should apply to all options not just some. We are currently using a midfield of Conteh / Garrett and Ward which won’t yeild 5 goals between them. As it stands Macca also won’t contribute and Kofi has yet to show he can at league level, LT scores at a rate of a goal every 20 games and Bryant may chip in if we lump it in the box often enough. We have set up a team to be consistent and solid. MT has alluded to that fact several times in interviews mentioning players who he knows can play in patches and doesn’t know entirely what he’ll get from them over 90 mins and has therefore opted to play more pragmatic options….yet we’ve still had a MoM who’s a GK in 4 from 5 games and are conceding too many chances whilst not creating enough. Economics doesn’t come into it. Style substance and attacking ideas do and I’m not sure that’s the way our manager leans. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 7, 2024 20:13:06 GMT
i dont like to pick on rovers player but what did thomas do i can understand bartons frustration with him he seems to be able to turn it on against weaker teams but not like today when its needed is it a confidence thing with Shaw on the bench it's baffling why MT didn't sub him off, perhaps returning to Barnsley got to him? |
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