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Post by thegasareback on Sept 13, 2024 7:42:16 GMT
I do appreciate it’s a fans forum but if the educated manager wants to leave zero or 5 up from corners i would suggest he’s best placed to decide than Barry from the anchor!
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Post by tbonegas on Sept 13, 2024 7:52:59 GMT
I really don't understand the bringing every player back for corners.
If you leave one up top, the opposition will usually leave one or two back with them.
Take into account the player taking the corner, plus their keeper.
You still have more players in your own box than they do.
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Post by heartofgas on Sept 13, 2024 8:08:27 GMT
I really don't understand the bringing every player back for corners. If you leave one up top, the opposition will usually leave one or two back with them. Take into account the player taking the corner, plus their keeper. You still have more players in your own box than they do. Exactly, and it also puts an element of doubt in the other teams mind that they need to be a bit careful with the corner to not face a quick counter attack. But hey, my only managerial experience is from championship manager on the PC some time ago so I'm sure MT knows a bit more than me about football so fair enough. You can't argue that our defense is a lot better these days. |
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Post by poorblue on Sept 13, 2024 8:25:37 GMT
All players back in the box for corners was a question. He defended this tactic.
Sammy Igoe scoring at Wembley anyone remember?
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Post by gassince1957 on Sept 13, 2024 8:29:08 GMT
All players back in the box for corners was a question. He defended this tactic. Sammy Igoe scoring at Wembley anyone remember? MT took the trouble to explain that the reason is that the tea as a whole are still learning and adapting and once he is confident he would leave one or more players up for corners. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Sept 13, 2024 8:43:06 GMT
Imo ridiculous to not have a outlet when defending a corner, just invites unnecessary pressure; that said, its a managers decision after all he is the one who will receive the flack from not being able to get the team up the field and inevitably score enough goals.
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 13, 2024 8:46:29 GMT
Id argue that Luke Thomas offers next to nothing when defending a corner.
Leave him up top which will occupy 2 opposition defenders.
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Sept 13, 2024 8:49:46 GMT
Imo ridiculous to not have a outlet when defending a corner, just invites unnecessary pressure; that said, its a managers decision after all he is the one who will receive the flack from not being able to get the team up the field and inevitably score enough goals. MT Explained this last night as (I'm paraphrasing) when we stop conceding goals from corners with everyone back & i have the confidence I will then let one go up. But not until then. |
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Post by eric on Sept 13, 2024 9:50:07 GMT
I’d love to see a manager brave enough to leave 3, 4 or even 5 players upfield when defending a corner. I can’t believe an opposition manager wouldn’t react by waving an equal number of players back to defend.
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Post by percy on Sept 13, 2024 9:59:34 GMT
I'd rather we dont go back to letting in goals against the "ugly" teams the first time they get a corner or free kick!
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Post by Quarters on Sept 13, 2024 10:03:22 GMT
How many teams in L1 leave players up when defending corners?
How many clearances would reach the player left up field?
Re Sammy Igoe, he was in our box when corner was taken, he started drifting out, so not sure what the point is.
Never sure why many get irate about this when there is nothing to suggest it is beneficial.
I remember WBA away when two nil down we left three on half way line.
WBA defenders were confused.
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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 13, 2024 10:07:38 GMT
Re Sammy Igoe, he was in our box when corner was taken, he started drifting out, so not sure what the point is. Yeah we had to have all our players defending that corner... as even Shrewsbury's keeper was up in our box attacking it  |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 13, 2024 10:10:37 GMT
All players back in the box for corners was a question. He defended this tactic. Sammy Igoe scoring at Wembley anyone remember? and how many times has that happened since? I agree with Tbone its silly keeping every player back and inviting pressure, that's a John Ward tactic I used to hate. We have 2 experienced CB's in Wilson and Moore who should be able to organise things better than the p.iss poor attempt at Stockport (where we let them do exactly the same not long after the goal!!) |
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Post by Sir Trevor on Sept 13, 2024 10:11:39 GMT
Worth watching on BRTV when available.
Some reading between the lines might be a productive activity.
The detailed account, given by GF re. the process of signing BB, is worth following.
Mitch and Ritchie both demonstrated a high level of professionalism throughout.
Interesting relationship exists between GF and MT. Two strong and independent characters who need to trust each other and work very closely if the sustainability model advocated is to come to fruition.
A keen listening ear evident from Mitch and Richie. Having said this they are aware that the support base needs to be "nudged" slowly forward. They are clearly forward thinking and "nostalgia" is unlikely to be their driving force in the years ahead.
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 13, 2024 10:31:19 GMT
Worth watching on BRTV when available. Some reading between the lines might be a productive activity. The detailed account, given by GF re. the process of signing BB, is worth following. Mitch and Ritchie both demonstrated a high level of professionalism throughout. Interesting relationship exists between GF and MT. Two strong and independent characters who need to trust each other and work very closely if the sustainability model advocated is to come to fruition. A keen listening ear evident from Mitch and Richie. Having said this they are aware that the support base needs to be "nudged" slowly forward. They are clearly forward thinking and "nostalgia" is unlikely to be their driving force in the years ahead. From anyone that was there, regarding their comments on the supporter base.... Were any comments made on building the fan base starting from the younger generation up rather than just assuming if we win matches they will come? As they certainly arnt coming as yet and we've won our 2 home matches. |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 13, 2024 10:36:48 GMT
Worth watching on BRTV when available. Some reading between the lines might be a productive activity. The detailed account, given by GF re. the process of signing BB, is worth following. Mitch and Ritchie both demonstrated a high level of professionalism throughout. Interesting relationship exists between GF and MT. Two strong and independent characters who need to trust each other and work very closely if the sustainability model advocated is to come to fruition. A keen listening ear evident from Mitch and Richie. Having said this they are aware that the support base needs to be "nudged" slowly forward. They are clearly forward thinking and "nostalgia" is unlikely to be their driving force in the years ahead. From anyone that was there, regarding their comments on the supporter base.... Were any comments made on building the fan base starting from the younger generation up rather than just assuming if we win matches they will come? As they certainly arnt coming as yet and we've won our 2 home matches. No …. But isn’t there a price reduction for u14’s this weekend ? |
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 13, 2024 11:16:48 GMT
From anyone that was there, regarding their comments on the supporter base.... Were any comments made on building the fan base starting from the younger generation up rather than just assuming if we win matches they will come? As they certainly arnt coming as yet and we've won our 2 home matches. No …. But isn’t there a price reduction for u14’s this weekend ? There is but from what I've been told that is more to do with the lack of sales in general this weekend. The owners should of thought of that before hiking kids season ticket prices and are now seemingly trying to play catch up with sales down. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 13, 2024 11:17:30 GMT
I really don't understand the bringing every player back for corners. If you leave one up top, the opposition will usually leave one or two back with them. Take into account the player taking the corner, plus their keeper. You still have more players in your own box than they do. If more players are in the area, it's more compact and players have less space to run into. It's a lot harder to get power on a header, from a standing jump. It's easy to see the reasoning behind having more players in the box. Obviously you are more likely to face a 2nd ball into the box, if you leave nobody outside the box, as if it's cleared the other team will have time to put the ball back into the box. A lot of clubs will take two players out to take the corner, meaning two defenders have to go out of the box already. The attacking team want as few players in the box as possible, so they can attack the ball. |
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Post by baggins on Sept 13, 2024 11:21:20 GMT
I’d love to see a manager brave enough to leave 3, 4 or even 5 players upfield when defending a corner. I can’t believe an opposition manager wouldn’t react by waving an equal number of players back to defend. Plus with less players in the box and a keeper at 6'6" he shouldn't have any problem claiming anything coming in. |
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 13, 2024 11:23:13 GMT
It's gone live now on the website for anyone interested to watch.
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