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Post by yattongas on Sept 22, 2024 22:12:39 GMT
Should really get his 10 games, 7 is too little really. We've had a tough start to the season, but Pirates stats are pretty damning. A couple of winnable games coming up in the next few weeks, get 6 points from the next 3 and we're looking at probably 11th after 10 games which would be a pretty solid start IMO. Personally I’d give him at least 15 games |
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Post by GeriatricGas on Sept 23, 2024 3:29:50 GMT
There is no doubt that we are missing the creativity and drive of Anthony Evans. Walsall supporters have only good things to say about Hutchinson. Not sure what the issue is with him - perhaps not 100% fit. Although I respect that anyone who hands over hard earned cash to watch a game has a right to an opinion, sacking the manager at this stage would surely be madness. I believe that we have made some good signings and have some young players with excellent potential. I hope MT can turn things around. UTG.
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Post by William Wilson on Sept 23, 2024 5:59:22 GMT
The Exeter fans mentioned Matt Taylor was disengaging and rather dour when with them! The ones I've spoken to didn't say that, they said the opposite. Check out the video they put out when he left. Plenty of passion with them as a player and a manager. One fan even commented on it Taylor was the reason he bought his season ticket🤣. Having witnessed the utter dross that his team produced from last January onwards, I renewed my season ticket in spite of Taylor, not because of him. I know it`s early days, but as of yet it doesn`t seem to make much difference if he`s managing his own squad of players, or someone else`s. |
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Post by shireblues on Sept 23, 2024 7:14:03 GMT
Our owners dismissed Joey because "the position we were in the league didn't reflect the budget he was given in the summer" . Therefore , if reported is correct we smashed that budget this time around, so 26th October was d-day last year !
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Post by yattongas on Sept 23, 2024 7:16:08 GMT
Our owners dismissed Joey because "the position we were in the league didn't reflect the budget he was given in the summer" . Therefore , if reported is correct we smashed that budget this time around, so 26th October was d-day last year ! Where is this report that we smashed the budget this time around ? I’ve not read it. |
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Post by shireblues on Sept 23, 2024 7:47:56 GMT
Half mill for Promise . 6 figs for Hutch Forde and Sotiriou . Wages won't be cheap or for ex-championship Lindsay .
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Post by yattongas on Sept 23, 2024 8:09:36 GMT
Half mill for Promise . 6 figs for Hutch Forde and Sotiriou . Wages won't be cheap or for ex-championship Lindsay . Ditched our highest earners Collins & Evans. Absolutely no evidence what you’re claiming is true. |
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Post by phillistine on Sept 23, 2024 8:24:33 GMT
Our owners dismissed Joey because "the position we were in the league didn't reflect the budget he was given in the summer" . Therefore , if reported is correct we smashed that budget this time around, so 26th October was d-day last year ! The publicly stated reason that someone leaves is rarely if ever the full picture - it is just enough to part company whilst leaving both sides an element of dignity. Sometimes an employer is looking for a convenient excuse to part company and whilst i am not saying that happened here it is apparent that JB liked to control a lot of things - as do the owners. It was going to end in tears at some point. |
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 23, 2024 9:26:59 GMT
The problem is we are not an attacking team. We have exciting attacking players I believe but the problem is to MT that defending is more important. ~.This 3 at the back is rubbish -it isnt three at the back the way Taylor plays it. It is three plus the two wing backs plus two defensive midfield players then the three left are dragged back for every corner/free kick.
What attacking can they do? Our system if that is what it can be called is constant pressure put on ourselves as we dont ever pressurise as a team. Only Promise pushes the opposition defence an d the battle cannot be won by one player, the front three have to press as a unit.
I dont want to see Luke Thomas tackling a player as last man- I want to see him running at players and scoring goals. We are just using players to make up for poor defending by individuals- you take pressure off defenders by attacking. What is the point of just standing back and letting opponents bring the ball outthen they hoof it forward and the next thing you know they have a corner and we have ALL our players back and if it isnt a goal conceded it is hoofed out by us to nobody and back the opponents come.
It is terrible to watch . MT makes so many changes that nobody gets a chance to feel part of the team. LM played well saturday but he knows if he plays poorly next game off he will go at half time. Hutchison is the same- MT does not give players runs in the team to gel.The only players who get to play together most matches with MT are the three defenders and half the tome they are the ones making the errors- Mola is the only defender who has been consistent.
Only by giving players a run of games will we see any change. At present i see MT as a dour defensive Manager with very limited tactical ability.
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Post by Langford Gas on Sept 23, 2024 9:34:58 GMT
There is no doubt that we are missing the creativity and drive of Anthony Evans. Walsall supporters have only good things to say about Hutchinson. Not sure what the issue is with him - perhaps not 100% fit. Although I respect that anyone who hands over hard earned cash to watch a game has a right to an opinion, sacking the manager at this stage would surely be madness. I believe that we have made some good signings and have some young players with excellent potential. I hope MT can turn things around. UTG. Personally i think we miss Finley more ,although I would have Evans back in a heartbeat |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 23, 2024 9:39:00 GMT
The problem is we are not an attacking team. We have exciting attacking players I believe but the problem is to MT that defending is more important. ~.This 3 at the back is rubbish -it isnt three at the back the way Taylor plays it. It is three plus the two wing backs plus two defensive midfield players then the three left are dragged back for every corner/free kick. What attacking can they do? Our system if that is what it can be called is constant pressure put on ourselves as we dont ever pressurise as a team. Only Promise pushes the opposition defence an d the battle cannot be won by one player, the front three have to press as a unit. I dont want to see Luke Thomas tackling a player as last man- I want to see him running at players and scoring goals. We are just using players to make up for poor defending by individuals- you take pressure off defenders by attacking. What is the point of just standing back and letting opponents bring the ball outthen they hoof it forward and the next thing you know they have a corner and we have ALL our players back and if it isnt a goal conceded it is hoofed out by us to nobody and back the opponents come. It is terrible to watch . MT makes so many changes that nobody gets a chance to feel part of the team. LM played well saturday but he knows if he plays poorly next game off he will go at half time. Hutchison is the same- MT does not give players runs in the team to gel.The only players who get to play together most matches with MT are the three defenders and half the tome they are the ones making the errors- Mola is the only defender who has been consistent. Only by giving players a run of games will we see any change. At present i see MT as a dour defensive Manager with very limited tactical ability. It’s all about transition, we’re just not very good at turning defence into attack at the moment |
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Post by willytopp84 on Sept 23, 2024 9:39:58 GMT
Half mill for Promise . 6 figs for Hutch Forde and Sotiriou . Wages won't be cheap or for ex-championship Lindsay . Ditched our highest earners Collins & Evans. Absolutely no evidence what you’re claiming is true. He's not lying we spent a fortune on those 👍 What wages they are on is a mystery unless anyone's in the know. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Sept 23, 2024 10:33:28 GMT
Our owners dismissed Joey because "the position we were in the league didn't reflect the budget he was given in the summer" . Therefore , if reported is correct we smashed that budget this time around, so 26th October was d-day last year ! The publicly stated reason that someone leaves is rarely if ever the full picture - it is just enough to part company whilst leaving both sides an element of dignity. Sometimes an employer is looking for a convenient excuse to part company and whilst i am not saying that happened here it is apparent that JB liked to control a lot of things - as do the owners. It was going to end in tears at some point. It's obvious Barton wasn't sacked on performances. We were 7 points behind Stevenage with 2 games in hand . Stevenage were in the play off spot. If Barton won one of the games in hand we would of been 4 off play offs and miles behind the relegation zone. And I doubt the board will compare the 16 points from 13 games under Barton come mid October. So yes the above Hidden agendas might be true. P.S We were 6 points of relegation ( better GD ) with a game in hand in mid October. Taylor would need to W 3 D 2 L2 out of our next 7 to suppress Bartons record. Let's see |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 23, 2024 11:10:02 GMT
Half mill for Promise . 6 figs for Hutch Forde and Sotiriou . Wages won't be cheap or for ex-championship Lindsay . Ditched our highest earners Collins & Evans. Absolutely no evidence what you’re claiming is true. Were they high earners, did either of them extend their original contract that joined on? |
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Post by yattongas on Sept 23, 2024 11:14:44 GMT
Ditched our highest earners Collins & Evans. Absolutely no evidence what you’re claiming is true. Were they high earners, did either of them extend their original contract that joined on? Yes both did I think |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Sept 23, 2024 11:15:33 GMT
Ditched our highest earners Collins & Evans. Absolutely no evidence what you’re claiming is true. He's not lying we spent a fortune on those 👍 What wages they are on is a mystery unless anyone's in the know. Taylor spent more on fees ( incoming) than we recieved (outgoing) in 2024. I have never known this in the clubs history in any period. |
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Post by melrosegas on Sept 23, 2024 11:32:59 GMT
We simply have to trust the process.The majority of the squad are on lengthy contracts, so we have to give it time. Still some strange results in this division as teams work out their best starting 11 For me the real blow was losing Senior, we now have no available right sided defender ( will we ever see Hunt again?) and it’s showing. I’d be seriously scouring the market for out of contract full backs either side!! Just hoping the home games don’t become toxic as these are young players who need our support. UTG This will see us relegated. What is the process? Zero patterns of play and Taylor even admitted in a recent interview that his tactics were kick and chase. Having 2 competent players per position is the basics of football and recruitment. We have no backup keeper and no wingbacks (apart from Hunt who is always injured - Thomas is an attacking midfielder not a RWB). That's without the off field issues - running on threadbare commercial staff, half the fanzone unopened at the last home game. Just all round water poor. We seem unable to do the bare minimum in all facets of the club. |
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Post by gasify on Sept 23, 2024 12:11:15 GMT
We simply have to trust the process.The majority of the squad are on lengthy contracts, so we have to give it time. Still some strange results in this division as teams work out their best starting 11 For me the real blow was losing Senior, we now have no available right sided defender ( will we ever see Hunt again?) and it’s showing. I’d be seriously scouring the market for out of contract full backs either side!! Just hoping the home games don’t become toxic as these are young players who need our support. UTG This will see us relegated. What is the process? Zero patterns of play and Taylor even admitted in a recent interview that his tactics were kick and chase. Having 2 competent players per position is the basics of football and recruitment. We have no backup keeper and no wingbacks (apart from Hunt who is always injured - Thomas is an attacking midfielder not a RWB). That's without the off field issues - running on threadbare commercial staff, half the fanzone unopened at the last home game. Just all round water poor. We seem unable to do the bare minimum in all facets of the club. What was half the fanzone that was closed last home game? I noticed the burger bar was closed, but I reckon that was a contractual agreement with the Greek place as they had a big presence and were selling burgers too. What else was closed? |
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Post by daniel300380 on Sept 23, 2024 12:12:10 GMT
The publicly stated reason that someone leaves is rarely if ever the full picture - it is just enough to part company whilst leaving both sides an element of dignity. Sometimes an employer is looking for a convenient excuse to part company and whilst i am not saying that happened here it is apparent that JB liked to control a lot of things - as do the owners. It was going to end in tears at some point. It's obvious Barton wasn't sacked on performances. We were 7 points behind Stevenage with 2 games in hand . Stevenage were in the play off spot. If Barton won one of the games in hand we would of been 4 off play offs and miles behind the relegation zone. And I doubt the board will compare the 16 points from 13 games under Barton come mid October. So yes the above Hidden agendas might be true. P.S We were 6 points of relegation ( better GD ) with a game in hand in mid October. Taylor would need to W 3 D 2 L2 out of our next 7 to suppress Bartons record. Let's see We were effectively 2 points off the relegation zone, as Wigan were in a false position and would have been above us, if they were not deducted points. We were 7 points of the play offs, with one game in hand as Stevenage were 7th. Barton had 7 points from his first 8 games in League 2 with a new squad at a similar stage of his managerial career with us. We currently have 7 after 7 games. So get a point against Wycombe and he's doing better. It's not been good enough, but we were struggling when Barton left and he had years to build that squad. Their records are similar at the same stage, but we are in a harder league now with a less experienced squad. Taylor's record was better than Barton's, when they were in the same league. Taylor is close to the edge and it will be hard to come back from this, but I would give him a few more games. I would have given Barton a few more games as well, but I can see why he went. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Sept 23, 2024 12:42:32 GMT
It's obvious Barton wasn't sacked on performances. We were 7 points behind Stevenage with 2 games in hand . Stevenage were in the play off spot. If Barton won one of the games in hand we would of been 4 off play offs and miles behind the relegation zone. And I doubt the board will compare the 16 points from 13 games under Barton come mid October. So yes the above Hidden agendas might be true. P.S We were 6 points of relegation ( better GD ) with a game in hand in mid October. Taylor would need to W 3 D 2 L2 out of our next 7 to suppress Bartons record. Let's see We were effectively 2 points off the relegation zone, as Wigan were in a false position and would have been above us, if they were not deducted points. We were 7 points of the play offs, with one game in hand as Stevenage were 7th. Barton had 7 points from his first 8 games in League 2 with a new squad at a similar stage of his managerial career with us. We currently have 7 after 7 games. So get a point against Wycombe and he's doing better. It's not been good enough, but we were struggling when Barton left and he had years to build that squad. Their records are similar at the same stage, but we are in a harder league now with a less experienced squad. Taylor's record was better than Barton's, when they were in the same league. Taylor is close to the edge and it will be hard to come back from this, but I would give him a few more games. I would have given Barton a few more games as well, but I can see why he went. Of course what you never mentioned is we had 2 games in hand of Carlisle who were out of the relegation zone with a 3 point cushion (better GD). Win one game in hand 6 points above zone seems comfortable to me !. |
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