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Post by gashead4ever on Oct 15, 2024 18:49:20 GMT
hes playing rwb in a tottally defensive set up hes a rw cam its like playing martin as a wing back then moaning hes crap
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 15, 2024 19:28:55 GMT
Out of interest for the 3 games Moore was suspended and Hunt not fully fit who would you play at RWB if it wasn't LT? The owner has helped matters by the seemingly random signings of Hutchinson and Forde for the ACM & RW roles LT favours. Could have played a back 4 and put Lino or Mola there. Lino - Taylor - Wilson - Mola ----------Conteh-------- ---Lindsay------Garratt --------Thomas---- ---Sitoriou ------Promise |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 15, 2024 19:46:02 GMT
Lino is a left footer so hardly ideal to play RFB? Plus we all know that MT favours playing with WB's.
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Post by igotgas on Oct 15, 2024 21:53:42 GMT
Lino played RWB v Peterborough didnt he? Hard to tell if that went well or not tbh!!
But what on earth are you doing putting Garrett in there?
Personally I have no idea why we play the formation we play. It’s been square pegs in round holes from the first game of the season when the guy who was signed to play RWB and who’d played all pre season was suddenly on the bench.
I refuse to accept BB is good enough and I don’t believe LT is a wing back or been good enough to warrant playing there anyway.
It the manager isnt brave enough to play a back 4, he has no idea how to play his midfield, he doesn’t like wingers (despite buying one in Shaq) and he seems intent on playing Sotiriou who for me has been the worst of all the signings.
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Post by gasify on Oct 15, 2024 21:57:59 GMT
Lino played RWB v Peterborough didnt he? Hard to tell if that went well or not tbh!! But what on earth are you doing putting Garrett in there? Personally I have no idea why we play the formation we play. It’s been square pegs in round holes from the first game of the season when the guy who was signed to play RWB and who’d played all pre season was suddenly on the bench. I refuse to accept BB is good enough and I don’t believe LT is a wing back or been good enough to warrant playing there anyway. It the manager isnt brave enough to play a back 4, he has no idea how to play his midfield, he doesn’t like wingers (despite buying one in Shaq) and he seems intent on playing Sotiriou who for me has been the worst of all the signings. That seems a bit harsh. I really like BB, he is a raw talent that could have a very good career. |
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Post by igotgas on Oct 16, 2024 6:30:14 GMT
As a wing back, in league 1, right now.
He’s primarily there for his heading ability tbh.
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Post by gasify on Oct 16, 2024 7:33:25 GMT
As a wing back, in league 1, right now. He’s primarily there for his heading ability tbh. I disagree. He is there because he can drive us forward up the pitch. What I love about BB and Mola is that they both live to run the ball out of defence. Luke Thomas should be able to do the same thing. For a player that shouldn't be playing league one, how many goals and assists has he got so far this season? |
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Post by mrgasman on Oct 16, 2024 7:44:31 GMT
As a wing back, in league 1, right now. He’s primarily there for his heading ability tbh. I disagree. He is there because he can drive us forward up the pitch. What I love about BB and Mola is that they both live to run the ball out of defence. Luke Thomas should be able to do the same thing. For a player that shouldn't be playing league one, how many goals and assists has he got so far this season? Luke Thomas isn’t a wing back, confidence is shot, could also say the same about Connor Taylor’s confidence, we know both are good players. It’s a shame senior is injured as I liked the look of him. I’m hoping Thomas isn’t dropped from the squad as feel this would be a bad move, time will time. |
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Post by igotgas on Oct 16, 2024 8:24:56 GMT
As a wing back, in league 1, right now. He’s primarily there for his heading ability tbh. I disagree. He is there because he can drive us forward up the pitch I disagree. He’s really not. He runs up the pitch in a straight line yes. Basically runs until he loses it or runs out of pitch. If there wasn’t a stand there they could open the gate and he’d carry on down the high street! What I love about BB and Mola is that they both live to run the ball out of defence. Luke Thomas should be able to do the same thing Mola runs and dribbles with the ball. He attacks space inside and combines it with releasing the ball. BB heads off down the line until there’s an end. He rarely if ever crosses it and rarely results in retained possession unless it’s a throw in or a corner. Moderately effective I guess if you’re a manager who’s ambition is to get the ball as far away from your goal as possible and hope that random outcomes fall your way…..oh wait….🤔 Luke Thomas is a dribbler and a combination player. These players work in tight areas where their talent and instinct takes over the decision making process. Which is why he operates better further up the pitch in areas where you’re often marked rather than asking him to simply be reliable in his own half. For a player that shouldn't be playing league one, how many goals and assists has he got so far this season? Officially he has 1 and 1 so for some reason the Barnsley one seems to not have been credited. I’d ask you how many of those he actually meant or knew much about? Funnily enough the goal and the Barnsley assist were simply throwing his head at the ball…which I’ve already said is the one thing I think he’s good at and in the side for. The other assist had an element of luck and hopefulness about it. It looked spectacular but you won’t convince me he knew that he was doing other than helping the ball into a dangerous area. Just my opinion. I personally wouldn’t be playing him. |
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Post by roadman on Oct 16, 2024 8:34:59 GMT
Bang average League One winger and miles off the standard of Billy Bodin. Thomas can’t go down the outside like Billy could or Saka can for example, it’s all relative to the league you are in. Cuts inside into traffic too much, often the final ball goes wrong, for a winger now it’s ironic that his best attribute is the press and tracking back now?!
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 16, 2024 9:59:02 GMT
Lino is a left footer so hardly ideal to play RFB? Plus we all know that MT favours playing with WB's. LT is a left footer.... |
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 16, 2024 10:04:11 GMT
Lino played RWB v Peterborough didnt he? Hard to tell if that went well or not tbh!! To get a fair impression he needed 3 or 4 games there, not 1. But what on earth are you doing putting Garrett in there? Because we dont need 2 out and out DCMs and he wasnt Blackburns young championship player of the year nor nothing. Personally I have no idea why we play the formation we play. It’s been square pegs in round holes from the first game of the season when the guy who was signed to play RWB and who’d played all pre season was suddenly on the bench.
Agreed. Dont need 2 DCMs and we have enough to play an attacking game. I refuse to accept BB is good enough and I don’t believe LT is a wing back or been good enough to warrant playing there anyway. We havent seen enough of BB to know and I agree, LT is an ACM or an Aaron Collins wide forward. It the manager isnt brave enough to play a back 4, he has no idea how to play his midfield, he doesn’t like wingers (despite buying one in Shaq) and he seems intent on playing Sotiriou who for me has been the worst of all the signings.
TBF, Sotiriou has had the worst of all service and if you look at the data, has been one of our most creative players in possession. It's just that we are awful at getting the ball up that end of the pitch. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 16, 2024 10:07:31 GMT
Bang average League One winger and miles off the standard of Billy Bodin. Thomas can’t go down the outside like Billy could or Saka can for example, it’s all relative to the league you are in. Cuts inside into traffic too much, often the final ball goes wrong, for a winger now it’s ironic that his best attribute is the press and tracking back now?! Hes not a winger Paul and never has been. He's been shoehorned into that position by JB and MT. Hes an ACM or a outside forward. We have never utilised him in his natural position. Barnsley and Coventry got the best out of him when playing him centrally and forward. |
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Post by roadman on Oct 16, 2024 10:33:40 GMT
Bang average League One winger and miles off the standard of Billy Bodin. Thomas can’t go down the outside like Billy could or Saka can for example, it’s all relative to the league you are in. Cuts inside into traffic too much, often the final ball goes wrong, for a winger now it’s ironic that his best attribute is the press and tracking back now?! Hes not a winger Paul and never has been. He's been shoehorned into that position by JB and MT. Hes an ACM or an outside forward. We have never utilised him in his natural position. Barnsley and Coventry got the best out of him when playing him centrally and forward. Steve and outside forward is a winger, or the right of a front three. The outside is a wing position, Monkhouse was a true LM, call Thomas a OLF, LF, his job is to attack the right full back and supply assists and scores goals. He never goes down the outside like Saka, he comes into traffic continually inside. His assist level is poor, he doesn’t break the lines, compared to Palmer and it’s all relative to the league you are in, he’s bang average. The reason he goes wing back is because of his defensive attributes. If I was to even agree with you and give you at what you think he is, 3 goals in 86 appearances at Barnsley, end of debate mate! |
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Post by roadman on Oct 16, 2024 10:37:47 GMT
If Cov got the best out of him, why did he only get 4 in 43 games?
Classic bang average winger, the good ones are consistent and when they move up, they stay there. The game is littered with Thomas’s, Harry Anderson, Mark Wright (Trollope), Gosling, Montano, all one great game in 5 or 6, stop start, then injured at times.
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 16, 2024 11:54:15 GMT
Hes not a winger Paul and never has been. He's been shoehorned into that position by JB and MT. Hes an ACM or an outside forward. We have never utilised him in his natural position. Barnsley and Coventry got the best out of him when playing him centrally and forward. Steve and outside forward is a winger, or the right of a front three. The outside is a wing position, Monkhouse was a true LM, call Thomas a OLF, LF, his job is to attack the right full back and supply assists and scores goals. He never goes down the outside like Saka, he comes into traffic continually inside. His assist level is poor, he doesn’t break the lines, compared to Palmer and it’s all relative to the league you are in, he’s bang average. The reason he goes wing back is because of his defensive attributes. If I was to even agree with you and give you at what you think he is, 3 goals in 86 appearances at Barnsley, end of debate mate! An outside forward isnt a winger not in the traditional sense. The outside forward should never come shorter than the half way line in defending and should be looking to attack the box rather than the bylines. A winger stays wide and looks to cross the ball from a wider areas or bylines. If youre playing 433 or 4321 you want your full back to advance and stay wide then your DCM to revert into the FB position and one of your opposite midfieders to drop into the anchoring role as you move the block forward allowing your outside striker to become just that. LT had 11 goal contributions last season at this level and 7 at Barnsley in 21 starts with a season cut short with a season ending injury. Hes also had 6 in 39 in the championship with Coventry when they finished 18th in their first season back. So far, hes our best player in attacking possession and has 3 goal contributions to his 8 starts. Hes a very good L1 footballer for this level. And much like Aaron Collins, just because hes not scoring or assisting it doesnt mean hes not contributing. What was highlighted when Collins left was how many players he dragged away that allowed Martin space to recieve the ball and bring others into play or to score himself. When collins left, opposition defences had nothing to watch or be scared about and we became easy meat in the final 3rd. If you watch LT, hes normally surrounded by 2 or 3 when attacking. If we were a bit more of a front foot team, you can utilise that and bring more players into the block. As i said, we're not utilising his strengths correctly and if we did, we'd get more from him. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 16, 2024 11:59:58 GMT
If Cov got the best out of him, why did he only get 4 in 43 games? Classic bang average winger, the good ones are consistent and when they move up, they stay there. The game is littered with Thomas’s, Harry Anderson, Mark Wright (Trollope), Gosling, Montano, all one great game in 5 or 6, stop start, then injured at times. First season back in the champ and Robins set them up more low block just to stay up. LTs role was to advance them from low to high block through the middle and bring JCH, Conor Chaplin and Matt Godden into play. They also lost Jodi Jones to a serious injury meaning Robins went from being a 433 team to a 4411 team for the last 20 games of the season. From memory JCH only scored 4 that season before we signed him and everyone had a meltdown because of it. |
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Post by mftc on Oct 16, 2024 12:26:47 GMT
If Cov got the best out of him, why did he only get 4 in 43 games? Classic bang average winger, the good ones are consistent and when they move up, they stay there. The game is littered with Thomas’s, Harry Anderson, Mark Wright (Trollope), Gosling, Montano, all one great game in 5 or 6, stop start, then injured at times. Pretty unfair on Harry. He regularly put in a good shift and did a lot of defensive work, plus scored some very important goals. Was much more of a team player than the "wingers" mentioned. If he was not injured, I would have definitely offered him an extension to his contract. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 16, 2024 12:37:25 GMT
If Cov got the best out of him, why did he only get 4 in 43 games? Classic bang average winger, the good ones are consistent and when they move up, they stay there. The game is littered with Thomas’s, Harry Anderson, Mark Wright (Trollope), Gosling, Montano, all one great game in 5 or 6, stop start, then injured at times. Pretty unfair on Harry. He regularly put in a good shift and did a lot of defensive work, plus scored some very important goals. Was much more of a team player than the "wingers" mentioned. If he was not injured, I would have definitely offered him an extension to his contract. None more so that the 1-0 win at the Cobblers |
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Post by eric on Oct 16, 2024 12:57:16 GMT
If Cov got the best out of him, why did he only get 4 in 43 games? Classic bang average winger, the good ones are consistent and when they move up, they stay there. The game is littered with Thomas’s, Harry Anderson, Mark Wright (Trollope), Gosling, Montano, all one great game in 5 or 6, stop start, then injured at times. Pretty unfair on Harry. He regularly put in a good shift and did a lot of defensive work, plus scored some very important goals. Was much more of a team player than the "wingers" mentioned. If he was not injured, I would have definitely offered him an extension to his contract. Agree but even more embarrassing to bracket LT alongside Wright, Gosling and Montano !! |
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