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Post by igotgas on Oct 11, 2024 17:04:11 GMT
I don’t believe for a second that players can suddenly try harder if they like the manager and think he may be sacked or try less if they hate him and want him to go. Anything suggesting the above is more coincidental than deliberate.
Pro footballers are the absolute elite of the game (yes even league 1!) and have been since they were 8 years old. The threat of retain or release and being the very best they can be, the single mindedness and the dedication required to do that year on year out from 8 to 18 just to even be called a pro footballer is just beyond most of our comprehensions. To then actually get a game and to earn a living from it for more than a few moments requires the utmost elite mentality.
They don’t switch it on or off just because a manager they like or don’t, may get sacked!
They may play well or they may play badly but they only know one way to go about it. Taylor Moore suggesting otherwise is a PR exercise to appease the fans and to not rub them up the wrong way further.
Footballers aren’t the cleverest but retire clever enough to know they have to pay lip service in interviews, especially post match after a poor one.
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Post by wertongas on Oct 11, 2024 17:42:53 GMT
I don’t believe for a second that players can suddenly try harder if they like the manager and think he may be sacked or try less if they hate him and want him to go. Anything suggesting the above is more coincidental than deliberate. Pro footballers are the absolute elite of the game (yes even league 1!) and have been since they were 8 years old. The threat of retain or release and being the very best they can be, the single mindedness and the dedication required to do that year on year out from 8 to 18 just to even be called a pro footballer is just beyond most of our comprehensions. To then actually get a game and to earn a living from it for more than a few moments requires the utmost elite mentality. They don’t switch it on or off just because a manager they like or don’t, may get sacked! They may play well or they may play badly but they only know one way to go about it. Taylor Moore suggesting otherwise is a PR exercise to appease the fans and to not rub them up the wrong way further. Footballers aren’t the cleverest but retire clever enough to know they have to pay lip service in interviews, especially post match after a poor one. Well the media thought the threat of loosing their manager may have motivated them , but to be fair playing a back four and playing most of our most experienced players was more likely to have led to the improved performance. Ward and Sinclair are two of our most experienced players and if fit should not be left out of the first team. Which they have been in the past. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 11, 2024 17:46:27 GMT
I don’t believe for a second that players can suddenly try harder if they like the manager and think he may be sacked or try less if they hate him and want him to go. Anything suggesting the above is more coincidental than deliberate. Pro footballers are the absolute elite of the game (yes even league 1!) and have been since they were 8 years old. The threat of retain or release and being the very best they can be, the single mindedness and the dedication required to do that year on year out from 8 to 18 just to even be called a pro footballer is just beyond most of our comprehensions. To then actually get a game and to earn a living from it for more than a few moments requires the utmost elite mentality. They don’t switch it on or off just because a manager they like or don’t, may get sacked! They may play well or they may play badly but they only know one way to go about it. Taylor Moore suggesting otherwise is a PR exercise to appease the fans and to not rub them up the wrong way further. Footballers aren’t the cleverest but retire clever enough to know they have to pay lip service in interviews, especially post match after a poor one. Didn't you make a well thought out post a few days ago saying how confidence effects players ability to perform? Doesn't that also apply to confidence in the manager and his methods? There are managers that players will run into the ground for, upping their game and exceeding their "elite ability". To suggest a managers popularity (in the dressing room and training ground) has no effect on their performance is ridiculous. They may be elite athletes, but they are still human beings. They may only dip slightly, but in elite sport that's enough to make a huge difference. Players can and do get managers the sack if they don't perform at their maximum. It has been so forever. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 11, 2024 17:55:31 GMT
I'm not sure a team of young players failing to perform in a meaningless cup game will get a manager sacked? It seems more likely they were all set up to fail by the manager, why he did it is anybody's guess, perhaps it's this time of the year that the January transfer budget is set and potential signings are identified, so MT/GF are trying to put pressure on the owners to sign more experienced players in the next transfer window?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 11, 2024 18:03:03 GMT
I'm not sure a team of young players failing to perform in a meaningless cup game will get a manager sacked? It seems more likely they were all set up to fail by the manager, why he did it is anybody's guess, perhaps it's this time of the year that the January transfer budget is set and potential signings are identified, so MT/GF are trying to put pressure on the owners to sign more experienced players in the next transfer window? I'm not suggesting they did try to get him sacked, only that it can happen. |
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Post by igotgas on Oct 11, 2024 19:24:12 GMT
I don’t believe for a second that players can suddenly try harder if they like the manager and think he may be sacked or try less if they hate him and want him to go. Anything suggesting the above is more coincidental than deliberate. Pro footballers are the absolute elite of the game (yes even league 1!) and have been since they were 8 years old. The threat of retain or release and being the very best they can be, the single mindedness and the dedication required to do that year on year out from 8 to 18 just to even be called a pro footballer is just beyond most of our comprehensions. To then actually get a game and to earn a living from it for more than a few moments requires the utmost elite mentality. They don’t switch it on or off just because a manager they like or don’t, may get sacked! They may play well or they may play badly but they only know one way to go about it. Taylor Moore suggesting otherwise is a PR exercise to appease the fans and to not rub them up the wrong way further. Footballers aren’t the cleverest but retire clever enough to know they have to pay lip service in interviews, especially post match after a poor one. Didn't you make a well thought out post a few days ago saying how confidence effects players ability to perform? Doesn't that also apply to confidence in the manager and his methods? There are managers that players will run into the ground for, upping their game and exceeding their "elite ability". To suggest a managers popularity (in the dressing room and training ground) has no effect on their performance is ridiculous. They may be elite athletes, but they are still human beings. They may only dip slightly, but in elite sport that's enough to make a huge difference. Players can and do get managers the sack if they don't perform at their maximum. It has been so forever. Yes. Thank you 👍 I was commenting on respect of suggestions players had deliberately not tried. Good managers will squeeze extra juice out of players and players who believe in the managers methods will have more belief in the “plan” just as poor managers will fail to get the best out of players for the same reasons. But in a firm believer that every player who sets foot on a football pitch at this level plays to win and plays to the best of their capability given the situation and the tactics involved. |
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