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Post by Quarters on Oct 30, 2024 8:52:28 GMT
Is CT any worse this season? He always has a mistake in him, got away with in in L2. Question is does he have the ability to stop these mistakes?
With Hutches goal last night, imagine the stick our keeper would have got if we conceded that.
Was Macca ever any good? Lots of effort in relegated sides but am still not seeing what quality he has.
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Post by roadman on Oct 30, 2024 9:02:12 GMT
Have you ever heard of the saying “winning breeds confidence?” Or how about Duran playing so well for Villa coming on as sub in league and starting in the cup and scoring for them builds his confidence? Imagine a clean sheet tonight, a good game for Connor Taylor, he doesn’t go home tonight and say “it’s ok, Bridgewater Gas only said it’s a pathetic game” We need players hammering down the managers door for a start, competing for places, the 5-0 at Swindon and tonight tells you so much or where this squad and manager is and where Exeter’s is. I’d never want to be in business with some on this forum or let them be involved with a football club. Personally I wouldn't want to be in business with someone who repeats the same negative bullishit over and over again. On every page of every thread Oh I don’t think you’d hate being in business with me. I look at every game like a management meeting (thread) we have ours monthly and then board meetings as well. I am sales director of a 194 people strong, £30 million profitable business, very profitable and 5 times the size of Bristol Rovers. Let me give you an insight into my world with Bridgewaters and your mindset………we have just had record turnover months in September and October but we are now seeing a drop off for November. The new, new in our industry/sector is a quieter November since the pandemic. Now from my side to my sales team and to the plant in general I could say, well it’s seasonal and we know what it’s like now (Pizza Cup). But we all know this because we furnish everyone with performance figures. We strive” to beat last years figures, to get more client wins for the future and to retain the business we already have. We can help use November as a spring board for 2025. Take this thinking into the Pizza Cup, no reserve teams now, Exeter are building some confidence, shop floor apprentices running machines on own (my work), injured players getting minutes, unhappy players getting minutes, breeding confidence, maybe a massive contract win (Wembley) out of this in this time bringing in a million pound. So there you have it, I was up at 6am, off to Clapham soon for a lunch appointment with an existing client who I’ve had for 13 years. You boys will say what’s the point, you already have them on board, nah, remember loyalty and who helped make you successful. Down the M4 then for a 3pm new business meeting in Reading, back home to Oxfordshire then. If you think last night was just a pathetic throw away game then so be it. Personally I think the training ground (our plant) would be a happier place this morning after a win, maybe a clean sheet, maybe a Shaq brace, Macca goal, Jerry Lawrence goal, just a win. Connor is being told, mate don’t worry about it, only 1200 turned up, I’ve been on the forum, blokes praising you as at least you made them laugh! Have a good day mate, actually being genuine here. |
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Post by richard on Oct 30, 2024 9:10:21 GMT
Some take aways from me. Hutchinson will become a decent replacement for Evans. Looked much better the past 2 games. Forde may get lots of cards, but he is going to be someone that can really make an impact. Hope we keep him happy. Minutes for Martin needed. Two decent goals scored And the negatives, Individual good defenders are making mistakes every game. This needs to stop All very well being happy for the opposition to have the bulk of possession, but we then need to defend much much better. We are getting better at creating chances, but cant have to score 3 or 4 to get a result! McCormick is so frustratingly disappointing 90% of the time. Time to leave him out of the squad and give someone else a chance. Huge game Saturday. Rose tinted Taylor love in, ffs, that is three defeats on the bounce. Exeter City's second team players are technically so much better than the lack lustre group Taylor picked, Rovers showed little creativity in midfield, they were slow and scared stiff up top, and the goals conceded were embarrassing. Rueben Reid and his mates will be fancying their chances on Saturday. Imo that was noy good enough. It’s not three defeats on the bounce though, is it? |
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Post by richard on Oct 30, 2024 9:16:07 GMT
Personally I wouldn't want to be in business with someone who repeats the same negative bullishit over and over again. On every page of every thread Oh I don’t think you’d hate being in business with me. I look at every game like a management meeting (thread) we have ours monthly and then board meetings as well. I am sales director of a 194 people strong, £30 million profitable business, very profitable and 5 times the size of Bristol Rovers. Let me give you an insight into my world with Bridgewaters and your mindset………we have just had record turnover months in September and October but we are now seeing a drop off for November. The new, new in our industry/sector is a quieter November since the pandemic. Now from my side to my sales team and to the plant in general I could say, well it’s seasonal and we know what it’s like now (Pizza Cup). But we all know this because we furnish everyone with performance figures. We strive” to beat last years figures, to get more client wins for the future and to retain the business we already have. We can help use November as a spring board for 2025. Take this thinking into the Pizza Cup, no reserve teams now, Exeter are building some confidence, shop floor apprentices running machines on own (my work), injured players getting minutes, unhappy players getting minutes, breeding confidence, maybe a massive contract win (Wembley) out of this in this time bringing in a million pound. So there you have it, I was up at 6am, off to Clapham soon for a lunch appointment with an existing client who I’ve had for 13 years. You boys will say what’s the point, you already have them on board, nah, remember loyalty and who helped make you successful. Down the M4 then for a 3pm new business meeting in Reading, back home to Oxfordshire then. If you think last night was just a pathetic throw away game then so be it. Personally I think the training ground (our plant) would be a happier place this morning after a win, maybe a clean sheet, maybe a Shaq brace, Macca goal, Jerry Lawrence goal, just a win. Connor is being told, mate don’t worry about it, only 1200 turned up, I’ve been on the forum, blokes praising you as at least you made them laugh! Have a good day mate, actually being genuine here.  |
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Post by roadman on Oct 30, 2024 9:19:47 GMT
Oh I don’t think you’d hate being in business with me. I look at every game like a management meeting (thread) we have ours monthly and then board meetings as well. I am sales director of a 194 people strong, £30 million profitable business, very profitable and 5 times the size of Bristol Rovers. Let me give you an insight into my world with Bridgewaters and your mindset………we have just had record turnover months in September and October but we are now seeing a drop off for November. The new, new in our industry/sector is a quieter November since the pandemic. Now from my side to my sales team and to the plant in general I could say, well it’s seasonal and we know what it’s like now (Pizza Cup). But we all know this because we furnish everyone with performance figures. We strive” to beat last years figures, to get more client wins for the future and to retain the business we already have. We can help use November as a spring board for 2025. Take this thinking into the Pizza Cup, no reserve teams now, Exeter are building some confidence, shop floor apprentices running machines on own (my work), injured players getting minutes, unhappy players getting minutes, breeding confidence, maybe a massive contract win (Wembley) out of this in this time bringing in a million pound. So there you have it, I was up at 6am, off to Clapham soon for a lunch appointment with an existing client who I’ve had for 13 years. You boys will say what’s the point, you already have them on board, nah, remember loyalty and who helped make you successful. Down the M4 then for a 3pm new business meeting in Reading, back home to Oxfordshire then. If you think last night was just a pathetic throw away game then so be it. Personally I think the training ground (our plant) would be a happier place this morning after a win, maybe a clean sheet, maybe a Shaq brace, Macca goal, Jerry Lawrence goal, just a win. Connor is being told, mate don’t worry about it, only 1200 turned up, I’ve been on the forum, blokes praising you as at least you made them laugh! Have a good day mate, actually being genuine here. 😂👏🏼 I hope I’ve got a few more years until that comes! |
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Post by roadman on Oct 30, 2024 9:47:07 GMT
And if we are doing people’s job, you know ex brick layer who owns a building firm now………..well we’ve got an ex defender now as our manager, 32 goals conceded in 17 games this season 🤷🏼♂️
And on last nights excuses, we had over £1 million on the pitch in paid transfer fees……..Taylor, Macca, Hutchinson, Forde, I make that roughly £1.1 million.
I wonder how much Exeter had on the pitch in paid transfer fees?
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Post by kampucheagas on Oct 30, 2024 9:47:39 GMT
Roadman
Time to invest your millions in the club and run it properly
UTG
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Post by roadman on Oct 30, 2024 10:14:47 GMT
Roadman Time to invest your millions in the club and run it properly UTG Unfortunately I’m not a shareholder, family owned business. I was a shareholder in a business in my sector 7 years ago for 11 months. I was brought in just after it came out of administration, the damage was already done and we failed in turning it around even though sales dramatically increased. It humbled me, very sad at the time, I learned a lot from the experience and it seems MT hasn’t learned from Rotherham. Many more gifted people in business in our fan base than the likes of me, a friend of mine (Gashead) has a senior job with Salesforce and just about to move to America. Look at Harley Thorne, great technology brain, Steve Mowat etc. |
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Post by discodave on Oct 30, 2024 10:21:41 GMT
Some men are born mediocre , some men achieve mediocrity and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them , Matt Taylor 2023/24
Personally I prefer to win games not go out not to lose , which we do anyway
UTG
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 30, 2024 10:26:08 GMT
Roadman Time to invest your millions in the club and run it properly UTG Unfortunately I’m not a shareholder, family owned business. I was a shareholder in a business in my sector 7 years ago for 11 months. I was brought in just after it came out of administration, the damage was already done and we failed in turning it around even though sales dramatically increased. It humbled me, very sad at the time, I learned a lot from the experience and it seems MT hasn’t learned from Rotherham. Many more gifted people in business in our fan base than the likes of me, a friend of mine (Gashead) has a senior job with Salesforce and just about to move to America. Look at Harley Thorne, great technology brain, Steve Mowat etc. Being gifted in business or technology, doesn't mean though know anything about football🤣. They might, but football is completely different to any other business. Most clubs are losing millions and the only way to catch up with other clubs is to invest millions more. If it wasn't for the love of football, nobody would look at working or owning a football club. |
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Post by Sir Trevor on Oct 30, 2024 10:27:33 GMT
Appreciate the time you’ve taken to put that together but “several” of their players have played less than 25 games in the league as well. Starting line up MacDonald-0 EFL appearances James-1 EFL Appearance Francis-11 EFL appearances Richards- 6 EFL appearances Borges-9 EFL appearances Bird-2 EFL appearances Then from the bench Alli-21 EFL appearances Oakes-0 EFL appearances. Several of their team had very little experience at all! Spot on. Their three most experienced players tonight were Purringtin , Carayol and Fitzwaters. Cox has been out on loan in the National league for the last three years after making 40 appearances for them back in 2021. The rest as you say. Without a doubt the majority with hardly any league experience. I understand your point about The Grecians fielding four inexperienced players. But. We did exactly the same. You mention several players above. Shaun MacDonald (28) Made 79 first team appearances since 2018. Mainly with Torquay United. Jay Bird (23) Made 73 first team appearances since 2021. Last season he scored 10 goals in 40 appearances for Arbroath. Ed Francis (25) Made 138 first team appearances. Mainly for Harrogate Town, Notts County and Gateshead. Actually played 42 times for Gateshead last season. By my reckoning that is 7 experienced players who started for Exeter City. This was not a match in which Bristol Rovers played against an impressive Mustapha Carayol and a "bunch of kids." One further thought. 11. Our defensive line comprised Sousa, Forbes, Taylor and Bilonga. Apart from Connor they had managed a total of three first team starts between them prior to this season. This was a critical weakness which Exeter managed to exploit. |
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Post by roadman on Oct 30, 2024 10:38:24 GMT
Unfortunately I’m not a shareholder, family owned business. I was a shareholder in a business in my sector 7 years ago for 11 months. I was brought in just after it came out of administration, the damage was already done and we failed in turning it around even though sales dramatically increased. It humbled me, very sad at the time, I learned a lot from the experience and it seems MT hasn’t learned from Rotherham. Many more gifted people in business in our fan base than the likes of me, a friend of mine (Gashead) has a senior job with Salesforce and just about to move to America. Look at Harley Thorne, great technology brain, Steve Mowat etc. Being gifted in business or technology, doesn't mean though know anything about football🤣. They might, but football is completely different to any other business. Most clubs are losing millions and the only way to catch up with other clubs is to invest millions more. If it wasn't for the love of football, nobody would look at working or owning a football club. Spot on Daniel, Alan Sugar, Simon Jordan (great book BTW), Tony Fernandes, just to name a few. But I think they’d all tell their manager to try and win every game, do your best, try and breed confidence and just not look at games as irrelevant. I love the Luton board, CEO of Sony Music, fan and now on the board. Brighton have a very good one as well, property/developer on the board, helped build the new ground. Some get to right, some fans also love low targets and being rag bag, Devon White was 30 plus years ago, I’ve seen us in the Championship for 2 years in my 41 years support of the club, yeah I want more, yeah I don’t make excuses up for throwing away last night and yeah I wish the training ground was a winning one today on the back of last night……….levels of expectation and where you set the bar I guess. |
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Post by returngas on Oct 30, 2024 11:34:16 GMT
I thought the owner's son got his team selection badly wrong tonight. Taylor out. Or Friend out. I'm not quite sure, but fire someone Finished well at Reading, got him another 10 games. 3 wins in 5, it all keeps coming out. www.ebay.co.uk/b/bn_7029923333Can’t blame the owners son for playing 2 midfielders in front of the defence to protect it again. He’s not made one player look better in 46 games, he’s destroyed some like Connor Taylor. I ask you all to go back to Pompey at home and Norwich away, do you honestly think Matty Handbrake can get us to that level again? And that was nearly a year again soon. I think that knee injury and surgery has hindered Conor Taylor as much possibly more than MT. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 30, 2024 11:42:11 GMT
Was impressed with Alli and Mitchell for Exeter. Just shows there are alternatives to overspending on average attacking players
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Post by GasAttacK on Oct 30, 2024 11:42:21 GMT
Didn't think either side looked up for it in the first half. Exeter rarely looked dangerous, but we did gift them a goal anmd another chance soon after. On the balance of play we probably edged it.
If I remember rightly, we had 6 shots to their 1 in the first half, and more corners and key passes too.
However, Exeter stepped it up the second half and we couldn't cope. Okay, we gifted them another goal, but they had 13 shots and we only managed 1. They also ended with more corners and key passes, so we can have no complaints about the result.
Our league form has been patchy at best. Just about acceptable overall in terms of points. However, our cup performances have been really poor. Our preferred starting 11 might not be firing on all cylinders, but they're under no real pressure because our squad players have blown every chance they've had to impress.
Assuming we have no new injuries but are still missing Omochere, O'Donker, and Forde, I'd go with the following on Saturday:
Griffiths
Hunt, Moore, Wilson, Mola
Conteh
Sinclair, Ward, Hutchinson
Sotiriou, Martin
If Martin isn't ready to start another game so soon, bring in Thomas and move Sinclair up front.
It's a toss up between Ward and Lindsay. I've just gone with Ward because Lindsay played last night.
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Post by returngas on Oct 30, 2024 11:46:22 GMT
Personally I wouldn't want to be in business with someone who repeats the same negative bullishit over and over again. On every page of every thread Oh I don’t think you’d hate being in business with me. I look at every game like a management meeting (thread) we have ours monthly and then board meetings as well. I am sales director of a 194 people strong, £30 million profitable business, very profitable and 5 times the size of Bristol Rovers. Let me give you an insight into my world with Bridgewaters and your mindset………we have just had record turnover months in September and October but we are now seeing a drop off for November. The new, new in our industry/sector is a quieter November since the pandemic. Now from my side to my sales team and to the plant in general I could say, well it’s seasonal and we know what it’s like now (Pizza Cup). But we all know this because we furnish everyone with performance figures. We strive” to beat last years figures, to get more client wins for the future and to retain the business we already have. We can help use November as a spring board for 2025. Take this thinking into the Pizza Cup, no reserve teams now, Exeter are building some confidence, shop floor apprentices running machines on own (my work), injured players getting minutes, unhappy players getting minutes, breeding confidence, maybe a massive contract win (Wembley) out of this in this time bringing in a million pound. So there you have it, I was up at 6am, off to Clapham soon for a lunch appointment with an existing client who I’ve had for 13 years. You boys will say what’s the point, you already have them on board, nah, remember loyalty and who helped make you successful. Down the M4 then for a 3pm new business meeting in Reading, back home to Oxfordshire then. If you think last night was just a pathetic throw away game then so be it. Personally I think the training ground (our plant) would be a happier place this morning after a win, maybe a clean sheet, maybe a Shaq brace, Macca goal, Jerry Lawrence goal, just a win. Connor is being told, mate don’t worry about it, only 1200 turned up, I’ve been on the forum, blokes praising you as at least you made them laugh! Have a good day mate, actually being genuine here. |
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Post by gingerandwhitegas on Oct 30, 2024 12:36:10 GMT
Get real and stop making excuses. Nothing to do with second string players, comp means nothing, still getting to know each other, give him time, the stats say this and that. We were totally sh** and buck starts and ends with MT. Perhaps wait till January for green shoots to grow and be in bottom 3/4 . Owners need to grow some balls and make the change Wael did that with BG and it ended with our relegation, just changing the manager doesn't automatically mean we'll improve. If Wael had also done that with JB in L2 we may well still be a L2 side Regardless the owners are never going to sack MT based on last night's performance/result. MT now needs a big performance and a win on Saturday. You make a good point about change not necessarily meaning improvement , but this is where defining the right man comes in , something we have been woeful at.
Other clubs more than often get it it right , we more than often get it wrong. Either the process for identifying the right person is faulty , or as I suspect with the last appointment they
wanted a yes man after JB , hence why it took so long to appoint him.
MT should be sacked if we lose on Saturday , its a local derby against a team 3 divisions below and if there is no pride , then he has to walk.
Whether the owners see the cup as a inconvenience and are happy being in 16th , that may be the case. As I said I'd have low confidence in them getting it right after Taylor , but
that should not be a reason to keep a failing manager.
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Post by igotgas on Oct 30, 2024 12:45:49 GMT
Realistically people need to stop talking about IF we win Saturday.
For me it will simply be a case of do we make it laboured hard work or do we get the job done well and comfortably.
No League 1 team should be remotely close to losing to a team from the National South. Thats not to say it’ll be a stroll in the park but it really needs to be a case of discipline and too much quality. Especially at home. Away from home in December at certain places is different but not the Mem in first weekend of November.
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Post by kampucheagas on Oct 30, 2024 14:40:40 GMT
Realistically people need to stop talking about IF we win Saturday. For me it will simply be a case of do we make it laboured hard work or do we get the job done well and comfortably. No League 1 team should be remotely close to losing to a team from the National South. Thats not to say it’ll be a stroll in the park but it really needs to be a case of discipline and too much quality. Especially at home. Away from home in December at certain places is different but not the Mem in first weekend of November. I can promise you they’ll be more than one upset on Saturday! Just hope it’s not us again!! Really hope MT’s teamtalk doesn’t resemble some of the posts on here - complacency is a dangerous thing in football!! UTG |
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Post by igotgas on Oct 30, 2024 15:17:30 GMT
If anyone from 3 divisions below a football league team wins on the oppositions patch I’ll hold my hands up. I don’t see it.
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