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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 12, 2024 18:23:46 GMT
Didn't we here our name was mud after the JCH transfer saga? That no one would want to deal with us now etc. Then we broke our transfer record during the summer. According to others Taylor didn't know we were surviving signing Forde. So the owner had enough contacts to push that deal through. At the end of the day, money talks. If we offer a player or manager more than another club, the agents will soon want to deal with the owners. I've heard that a lot of these facts have come from one source, who wants to find new owners as he's not happy with what happened since the takeover and investment. I would like to hear the other side as well. Ask Darragh MacAnthony if he'd deal with us again. Ipswich reported us to the EFL for not paying for Baggot which nearly ended in us having a transfer embargo at the last window. Perhaps may be some of the reason. But I've had too many people within our club and footballing circles, who would have no real justifiable reason for any loyalty to Wael, to carbon copy mention all the things that have been posted. Bear in mind, some of these things arent recent, they have been going on for months. The club owe me money from August 2023. I hear Total Print are owed £50k and are over 90 days. There is just too much going on for it to be smoke and mirrors, conjecture and opinion with unwavering loyalty. I think it's a total cluster from ever side and it smacks of incompetence and inexperience. If we offered Peterborough what they wanted for a player, they would deal with us again. If they wanted one of our players and we accepted their bid, they would deal with us again. They might say they won't, but money talks and if they want that money, things would change. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 12, 2024 18:25:34 GMT
Ask Darragh MacAnthony if he'd deal with us again. Ipswich reported us to the EFL for not paying for Baggot which nearly ended in us having a transfer embargo at the last window. Perhaps may be some of the reason. But I've had too many people within our club and footballing circles, who would have no real justifiable reason for any loyalty to Wael, to carbon copy mention all the things that have been posted. Bear in mind, some of these things arent recent, they have been going on for months. The club owe me money from August 2023. I hear Total Print are owed £50k and are over 90 days. There is just too much going on for it to be smoke and mirrors, conjecture and opinion with unwavering loyalty. I think it's a total cluster from ever side and it smacks of incompetence and inexperience. If we offered Peterborough what they wanted for a player, they would deal with us again. If they wanted one of our players and we accepted their bid, they would deal with us again. They might say they won't, but money talks and if they want that money, things would change. Didn't Wael and family not pay any bills according to a lot of people and we were going bust then! |
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 12, 2024 18:33:46 GMT
People with money tend to hold onto it, their money is working for them. Eventually they pay, after they have dragged it out for as long as humanly possible.
If you’ve got F all , you usually pay up front.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Nov 12, 2024 18:47:59 GMT
Since Higgs sold up, it's fair to say that two managers definitely had the run of the club in the way that you'd expect a manager to have in order to succeed. DC - Did - OK he had to sell talent but he ran the football side until his mate was installed as DOF. GC - Didn't - Liam Scales anyone? BG - Didn't - Oztumer is Exhibit A here PT - Hard to know - Didn't last long enough JB - Absolutely did - mates installed all over the shop including the board, people disappeared for not meeting his approval MT - Clearly not if this thread is to be believed. I know a common theme of this thread is Hussein Bad, Wael Good, as if one bloke with no experience playing fantasy chairman with his dad, not keeping promises, running up 7 figure losses every year with a bit of minor building work to show for it, is better than another. But the issue is that both families, if they had brains and if this wasn't just a train set for bored sons of wealthy men to play with, would've found an experienced person in the industry to run the football side, and let them do it. PT - is a "Didn't" Chaos one matchday when PT told a player that he was playing, then Tommy told the same player that he wasn't picked. Not a PT fan, but I think that the situation he came in to was not what he had been led to believe it would be. |
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Post by gasheadowen on Nov 12, 2024 19:07:25 GMT
Is my suggestion that Higgs spending a few afternoons a month at the club in a mentoring role looking so daft now?
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Post by perryfenwick on Nov 12, 2024 19:14:35 GMT
Is my suggestion that Higgs spending a few afternoons a month at the club in a mentoring role looking so daft now? The guy who masterminded relegation to the conference? |
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Post by RD on Nov 12, 2024 19:14:50 GMT
Is my suggestion that Higgs spending a few afternoons a month at the club in a mentoring role looking so daft now? Yes. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 12, 2024 19:23:07 GMT
Didn't we here our name was mud after the JCH transfer saga? That no one would want to deal with us now etc. Then we broke our transfer record during the summer. According to others Taylor didn't know we were surviving signing Forde. So the owner had enough contacts to push that deal through. At the end of the day, money talks. If we offer a player or manager more than another club, the agents will soon want to deal with the owners. I've heard that a lot of these facts have come from one source, who wants to find new owners as he's not happy with what happened since the takeover and investment. I would like to hear the other side as well. It looks like we miss a bullet with JCH so if we upset DMac but saved a £1m by doing so is that really an issue? |
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Post by returnofthedust on Nov 12, 2024 19:29:10 GMT
Is my suggestion that Higgs spending a few afternoons a month at the club in a mentoring role looking so daft now? Yes. It’s insane. |
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Post by gasheadowen on Nov 12, 2024 19:30:10 GMT
Is my suggestion that Higgs spending a few afternoons a month at the club in a mentoring role looking so daft now? The guy who masterminded relegation to the conference? As previously discussed was he on the pitch or in the dugout? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 12, 2024 19:30:57 GMT
Sooner the whole truth comes out and they sell up, to find us owners who will be in it for the right intentions the better Then when all is out in the open- I hope those who ridicule and doubt the people who have said it all, can hold their hands up and say thanks. All we want is the kuwaits out and our club to be in good hands Surely nothing wrong with that?? Who's the "we" who want the Kuwaitis out, I'm pretty certain the average Rovers fan doesn't really care? Before this week most wanted MT out not more than the present owners? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 12, 2024 19:32:58 GMT
IF ONLY we had a decent local press. The first question I would ask Matt Taylor "Given all the rumours circulating on social media this week, can you give Rovers supporters any reassurance that there is a united front at Rovers, on and off the pitch? Unfortunately, the boy Hargraves is a ...a boy and Radio Bristol don't believe in real journalism when it gets...real. To be fair to BBC they have apparently invited both the Al Seead's and GF to do interviews but the former have simply refused and GF claims that interviews aren't his thing, which sounds nonsense to me. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Nov 12, 2024 19:34:13 GMT
The guy who masterminded relegation to the conference? As previously discussed was he on the pitch or in the dugout? A fish rots from the head. His decision making led to our relegation. Aside from that the club was a complete shambles in many ways when he was in charge. The idea that he could advise the current owners is crazy. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 12, 2024 19:35:43 GMT
I've been hugely critical of MT but when you hear more and more of the environment that he is having to work in, i'm amazed that he hasn't walked He nearly did a few weeks ago... As one player said to me the other week, he's one of the most decent and honourable people he's ever met in the game and that's probably why he's still here. Plus he won't get any severance if he walks. It's a shame he hasn't been treated with the same respect and decorum, but sadly it's the Kuwaiti way. If anyone has ever spent any time in Kuwait and with Kuwait people (I have and was there for 2 days last week), they have a certain way about them, which they can be very pleasant but if anyone who is under them in terms of the class system or financially they can be treated as an underling and disposed of without much thought. So it doesn't entirely surprise me they are doing/have done what they are. I don't get all this praise of MT, if he was such a good manager why didn't the players bother to turn up to play for him until they feared he may be sacked? |
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Post by perryfenwick on Nov 12, 2024 19:37:27 GMT
The guy who masterminded relegation to the conference? As previously discussed was he on the pitch or in the dugout? Do you think chairmen/owners have no impact on the success or failure of clubs? He hired the managers that led us to two relegations, failed to build a new ground, and let the current ground go to rot. What would anyone learn from him? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 12, 2024 19:42:39 GMT
As previously discussed was he on the pitch or in the dugout? Do you think chairmen/owners have no impact on the success or failure of clubs? He hired the managers that led us to two relegations, failed to build a new ground, and let the current ground go to rot. What would anyone learn from him? Are you talking about NH or Wael as they both seem to have similar records , Wael did deliver the training ground but that apparently needs a total rebuild! |
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Post by eric on Nov 12, 2024 19:43:20 GMT
Is my suggestion that Higgs spending a few afternoons a month at the club in a mentoring role looking so daft now? Yes. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 12, 2024 19:44:31 GMT
As previously discussed was he on the pitch or in the dugout? A fish rots from the head. His decision making led to our relegation. Aside from that the club was a complete shambles in many ways when he was in charge. The idea that he could advise the current owners is crazy. Almost as crazy as Wael telling Reading fans what they need to look for in new potential Investors, you really couldn't make that up given the issues he now seems to be having with the ALS. |
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Post by gasheadowen on Nov 12, 2024 19:45:20 GMT
As previously discussed was he on the pitch or in the dugout? Do you think chairmen/owners have no impact on the success or failure of clubs? He hired the managers that led us to two relegations, failed to build a new ground, and let the current ground go to rot. What would anyone learn from him? If you want to play that game then can we praise him for the leadership he showed sticking by DC when fans were boarding team coaches...his foresight led to us keeping hold of probably the best manager in our history who lead us to a double promotion. Lambert was in the last year of his contract and could've walked away for nothing, he negotiated a deal with a decent release clause and add ons that made us millions. Look at that compared to the situation with Lee Brown, Lockyer and Matty Taylor. In face he got us more in transfer fees for Carayol (who'd had literally 7 good games in his career), Michael Smith (never played above league two) and Harrold (after he'd had his knee reconstructed); than we got for Brown, Lockyer, Taylor and Bodin. Leave it with you. |
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 12, 2024 19:45:31 GMT
Regardless of who the manager is….. the players need to take some responsibility. It’s up to them if they want to make history or become history.
Step up….. those that can.
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