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Post by stevek192 on Mar 23, 2015 17:33:16 GMT
Bristol Rovers
01 Mildenhall Puddy 24 Clarke Leadbitter 39 Mohamed Brown 06 Parkes Parkes 29 McChrystal McCrystal 30 Lockyer Lockyer 25 Clucas Lines 07 Clarkson Dawson 09 Harrold Monkhouse 19 Beardsley Taylor 32 O'Toole Easter 11 Broghammer Balanta 18 Harding Harrison 20 Gough Mildenhall 33 Santos Blissett 34 Keary Clarke 36 Lucas Gosling 37 Thomas Unavailable Brown Trotman Smith Sinclair Harrison
Looking at the squad as at the Mansfield last game last season compared to now. How many of the team from last season would you consider over what we have now? For me only Mohamed and Clarkson would I even consider over what we have now and it seems like Clarke wants to bring in 2 more!!
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Post by kylegas on Mar 23, 2015 17:44:41 GMT
Smith and Clarkson for me, nobody else
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 17:45:32 GMT
Smith and Mo for me. Although Mo and Balanta are much of a muchness from where I'm sitting.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 23, 2015 17:46:20 GMT
Looking at that relegation team sends shivers down my spine - what a pile of dung.
Agree with you that Mohamed and Clarkson would be the only two that would get in our side currently (and Smith, of course).
O'Toole has the talent to but not the attitude.
I liked Clucas but don't think he was quite the same post-injury.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 23, 2015 18:42:12 GMT
Looking at that relegation team sends shivers down my spine - what a pile of dung. Agree with you that Mohamed and Clarkson would be the only two that would get in our side currently (and Smith, of course). O'Toole has the talent to but not the attitude. I liked Clucas but don't think he was quite the same post-injury. John Ward completely shafted us with his lack of transfer activity. It was so obvious how short we were many times but he did nothing to rectify it.
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Post by Bill Bones on Mar 23, 2015 18:52:12 GMT
Smith and Clarkson definitely, Mohamed and O'Toole at a push. However they are more difficult to compare than it first seems because we are in a different league - let's hope our current squad can carry on into next season (in League Two!).
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 23, 2015 19:25:58 GMT
Smith and Clarkson definitely, Mohamed and O'Toole at a push. However they are more difficult to compare than it first seems because we are in a different league - let's hope our current squad can carry on into next season (in League Two!). Luton seem to have hit the wall, after their promotion momentum.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 23, 2015 21:00:30 GMT
Smith and Clarkson definitely, Mohamed and O'Toole at a push. However they are more difficult to compare than it first seems because we are in a different league - let's hope our current squad can carry on into next season (in League Two!). Luton seem to have hit the wall, after their promotion momentum. If we go up, would you be happy to be in the same position as Luton are in now with a few games to go ? I would be very happy. When was the last time we had two seasons being at the top end of a table ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 23, 2015 21:24:29 GMT
Why the love in with Clarkson? Easter did more on Friday than Clarkson managed in 2 seasons.
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Post by Bill Bones on Mar 23, 2015 21:35:30 GMT
Why the love in with Clarkson? Easter did more on Friday than Clarkson managed in 2 seasons. Not a personal slight but I simply can't understand how people think, or ever thought this about Clarkson. He's the best player we've had technically for years. If he'd played every game up front last season we would never have gone down.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 21:39:58 GMT
Why the love in with Clarkson? Easter did more on Friday than Clarkson managed in 2 seasons. Not a personal slight but I simply can't understand how people think, or ever thought this about Clarkson. He's the best player we've had technically for years. If he'd played every game up front last season we would never have gone down. If he could ever have managed more than 60 mins of football without blowing out of his arse he might have played more. Possibly one of the worse players I've ever seen in a Rovers shirt and I've seen Paul Tait.
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Post by Bill Bones on Mar 23, 2015 21:55:45 GMT
Not a personal slight but I simply can't understand how people think, or ever thought this about Clarkson. He's the best player we've had technically for years. If he'd played every game up front last season we would never have gone down. If he could ever have managed more than 60 mins of football without blowing out of his arse he might have played more. Possibly one of the worse players I've ever seen in a Rovers shirt and I've seen Paul Tait. Haha I seem to remember having this argument with you at least twice before! Granted, sometimes he did look knackered but he'd still run further and faster than most of the rest of them. He (and O'Toole when he was in the right mood) was the only genuine bit of quality in that squad last season. Did you see his goal against Sheffield United in the FA Cup a few years back?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 23, 2015 22:02:00 GMT
Not a personal slight but I simply can't understand how people think, or ever thought this about Clarkson. He's the best player we've had technically for years. If he'd played every game up front last season we would never have gone down. If he could ever have managed more than 60 mins of football without blowing out of his arse he might have played more. Possibly one of the worse players I've ever seen in a Rovers shirt and I've seen Paul Tait. Nowhere near one of the worst players! He was the best striker at the club last season.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 23, 2015 22:16:51 GMT
But only best of a terrible bunch, I don't think any of last season's strikers have got more than 5 goals at any of thier new clubs apart from DC.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 23, 2015 23:31:52 GMT
But only best of a terrible bunch, I don't think any of last season's strikers have got more than 5 goals at any of thier new clubs apart from DC. Why is soooooooo dark black and bright white when talking about players from the past ? It seems every player last season was garbage cos we went down ?? Hang on probably not Brown, Mildenhall, Parkes, Lockyer and anyone else I've forgotten who's still here from last season - these players are the best you've ever seen I guess as we're riding high in the 5th League !? Compare, for example Clarkson to Blissett or O'Toole to Ollie Clarke would you seriously say that we now have the better players now?
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Post by socrates on Mar 23, 2015 23:51:10 GMT
Does anyone else think that perhaps the balance and attitude of a TEAM is more important than whether this player is better than that player blah blah ? Some players are brilliant in some teams and poor in others. There's no doubt that we did have some quality last season but Ward gave the squad no balance and no structure, players were played out of position we lacked players to fill certain positions and there were problems behind the scenes too, it was a mess. What DC has done is keep the best hard working players from last season that he was able to and brought in other players to create a squad that is balanced, hard working and got a fair bit of ability too. Who cares if Blisset is better than Clarkson or O Toole is better than Sinclair ? It's impossible to say, but what I think we'll all agree on is that this team is better than that team regardless of individuals.
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Post by supergas on Mar 24, 2015 0:29:52 GMT
Does anyone else think that perhaps the balance and attitude of a TEAM is more important than whether this player is better than that player blah blah ? Some players are brilliant in some teams and poor in others. There's no doubt that we did have some quality last season but Ward gave the squad no balance and no structure, players were played out of position we lacked players to fill certain positions and there were problems behind the scenes too, it was a mess. What DC has done is keep the best hard working players from last season that he was able to and brought in other players to create a squad that is balanced, hard working and got a fair bit of ability too. Who cares if Blisset is better than Clarkson or O Toole is better than Sinclair ? It's impossible to say, but what I think we'll all agree on is that this team is better than that team regardless of individuals. If we as a club and as fans learn nothing else from the last two seasons, what we need to learn is that although good players can win you *some* games, a team wins you a hell of a lot more.
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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Mar 24, 2015 8:09:31 GMT
Meanwhile.... news from AFC Hornchurch
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Post by wrongsideoftheriver on Mar 24, 2015 8:10:15 GMT
If you would of said to me last season O'Toole or Stu Sinclair from non league I would of laughed and said O'Toole, how foolish! At the time we all thought the players we had were league 1/champ quality but we had no balance and no pace.
We started the season with the same problem IMO Jake Goslin isn't the answer to our winger problems, Andy Monkhouse only plays LM so Lee brown can bomb forward, we've improved massively since LDV/Dawson have come in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 8:27:10 GMT
But only best of a terrible bunch, I don't think any of last season's strikers have got more than 5 goals at any of thier new clubs apart from DC. Why is soooooooo dark black and bright white when talking about players from the past ? It seems every player last season was garbage cos we went down ?? Hang on probably not Brown, Mildenhall, Parkes, Lockyer and anyone else I've forgotten who's still here from last season - these players are the best you've ever seen I guess as we're riding high in the 5th League !? Compare, for example Clarkson to Blissett or O'Toole to Ollie Clarke would you seriously say that we now have the better players now? I sort of agree however I would say that this seasons squad is fitter and has better desire and appetite to play well and fight for their team mates. And yes I include most of the players we retained. IMO only Brown, Lockyer and Mildy did themselves justice last season. I'm sure other players were "better footballers" if you like but I'd take this years squad over last years every day.
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