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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 12:28:31 GMT
Jet fuel can't burn through Steel Beams... Depends on other factors but anything can burn very hot with the addition of oxygen , jet fuel burns at a temp up to 1500 deg c The science here is actually very accurate. So, no, jet fuel cant explain the collapse. Nor can it explain how tower 7 went down either seeming as its not attached... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 20:30:36 GMT
Depends on other factors but anything can burn very hot with the addition of oxygen , jet fuel burns at a temp up to 1500 deg c The science here is actually very accurate. So, no, jet fuel cant explain the collapse. Nor can it explain how tower 7 went down either seeming as its not attached... MIOPs And LIHOPs I'm still not sure which one 911 was. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 21:36:16 GMT
MIOPs And LIHOPs I'm still not sure which one 911 was. microwave. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 7:14:50 GMT
There is a lot wrong with the media explanations of the WTC disaster.
Tower 7 gets ignored for some reason? No plane flew into it but it went down the same as the other 2.
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Post by inee on Jun 29, 2015 22:03:30 GMT
Depends on other factors but anything can burn very hot with the addition of oxygen , jet fuel burns at a temp up to 1500 deg c The science here is actually very accurate. So, no, jet fuel cant explain the collapse. Nor can it explain how tower 7 went down either seeming as its not attached... wasn't saying the fuel led to collapse as it couldn't burn hot enough in the towers, was just saying in the right conditions paraffin can melt steels, used to have a 1 gallon pump up blowtorch that was lethal if adjusted correctly. but just been thinking about steels in some countries (  ) steelwork is not always up to spec, Dont forget in the past the towers were bombed in the basement to try and collapse it, could that have had an effect, lets face it no one would admit repairs were shoddy, to me it looked like a very controlled collapse it hardly touched anything else, if something came down randomly due to damage then surely it would have fell in a random direction , the truth will out but i fear not in our lifetime, i think all 3 buildings came down very neatly , too much of a coincidence One thing that did surprise me was jello biafra, in one of his spoken word shows talked about how he had to get info from british newspaper sites ,as more was published here about it than in the us |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 5:58:43 GMT
Yeah, they all came down like a planned demolition.
The remains all looked similar too- the remaining structure at ground level.
Eye witnesses report hearing an explosion whilst the planes were embedded.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 7:21:12 GMT
Many witnesses reported seeing "small jet plane" hit the building.
If I have time later I will find the link to some pictures but cruise missiles look terribly similar to the "planes" that hit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 9:21:35 GMT
Many witnesses reported seeing "small jet plane" hit the building. If I have time later I will find the link to some pictures but cruise missiles look terribly similar to the "planes" that hit. the pentagon one looked like a missile for sure. The eyewitnesses immediately after the even were saying the planes that hit the towers were unmarked. They directly referred to them as military planes. There's some youtube footage somewhere of a montage of clips of people saying these things. All very odd and I don't know the truth but I suspect there's much more to it all. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 21:09:53 GMT
Many witnesses reported seeing "small jet plane" hit the building. If I have time later I will find the link to some pictures but cruise missiles look terribly similar to the "planes" that hit. the pentagon one looked like a missile for sure. The eyewitnesses immediately after the even were saying the planes that hit the towers were unmarked. They directly referred to them as military planes. There's some youtube footage somewhere of a montage of clips of people saying these things. All very odd and I don't know the truth but I suspect there's much more to it all. A missile you reckon eh? So what is your experience of explosives and their effects? Sorry, but there are too many armchair 'experts' who talk bollux, especially about 911. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 21:13:17 GMT
the pentagon one looked like a missile for sure. The eyewitnesses immediately after the even were saying the planes that hit the towers were unmarked. They directly referred to them as military planes. There's some youtube footage somewhere of a montage of clips of people saying these things. All very odd and I don't know the truth but I suspect there's much more to it all. A missile you reckon eh? So what is your experience of explosives and their effects? Sorry, but there are too many armchair 'experts' who talk bollux, especially about 911. how come there was literally nothing left of the "planes" that hit the towers? Or in fact much of the towers themselves. Oh, except a paper passport or 2 of the hijackers? Seriously, what are the chances? I'm not saying it wasn't a plane. I'm just saying I don't believe the official story. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 21:17:35 GMT
And how did a pilot hijacker who was described as being a waste of resources at flight school pull off an incredible arching manoeuvre to hit the Pentagon when it would have been easier to have flown straight down.
And the most secure and building in the US has no footage of a plane strike.
It's bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 21:23:59 GMT
A missile you reckon eh? So what is your experience of explosives and their effects? Sorry, but there are too many armchair 'experts' who talk bollux, especially about 911. how come there was literally nothing left of the "planes" that hit the towers? Or in fact much of the towers themselves. Oh, except a paper passport or 2 of the hijackers? Seriously, what are the chances? I'm not saying it wasn't a plane. I'm just saying I don't believe the official story. My background..........I worked in one of the twin towers in 1998, on the floor below the 'Windows to the world' restaurant, which was right at the top. In 1997 I lived in Alexandria, Washington, and drove past the Pentagon everyday I went to work. First, is anyone on here aware of how much work would need to take place to bring down buildings of that size in a controlled manner? |
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Post by inee on Jun 30, 2015 22:03:26 GMT
nobby i think the missile comes from footage official and amateur, as something can be seen be seen to the side and just in front of the plane, who knows maybe it was a miss trying to down the plane, or a trick of the light,
i know a controlled explosion is a lot of work to ensure many small charges are in the correct points , but the way the 3 buildings go down just doesn't look right for a random collapse, it looks too neat.
The other thing is the footage from the news channels just seemed to out of focus for a live broadcast on the day.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 8:02:37 GMT
how come there was literally nothing left of the "planes" that hit the towers? Or in fact much of the towers themselves. Oh, except a paper passport or 2 of the hijackers? Seriously, what are the chances? I'm not saying it wasn't a plane. I'm just saying I don't believe the official story. My background..........I worked in one of the twin towers in 1998, on the floor below the 'Windows to the world' restaurant, which was right at the top. In 1997 I lived in Alexandria, Washington, and drove past the Pentagon everyday I went to work. First, is anyone on here aware of how much work would need to take place to bring down buildings of that size in a controlled manner? I'm not sure that working in the building and driving past one gives you anymore qualification than the guesswork on here tbf? Only going by what you've written there of course. As for the amount of work taken to bring a building down....No I have absolutely no idea! If the end product was to create a situation that was enough to convince the world of generational enemy though, maybe the workload was worth it? Wars make more money than it would cost to bring down a few large buildings. So, what do you reckon happened nobby? There is so much evidence that counters what the officials say that it is virtually impossible to believe the official line. |
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Post by inee on Jul 1, 2015 8:35:36 GMT
Wars make more money than it would cost to bring down a few large buildings. A very good track by the dead kennedys brings up this point it's called kinky sex makes the world go round, listen to it , they did quite a few about the us government another that stands out is kill the poor. One of the reasons i think the us has more conspiracies than us, is we take longer to declassify documents, whereas the us release documents earlier, hence why theres a raised interest in the jfk murder as a lot of stuff recentlt became available. One of the biggest conspiracies that wont get solved is our very own ,jack the ripper |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 9:11:37 GMT
My background..........I worked in one of the twin towers in 1998, on the floor below the 'Windows to the world' restaurant, which was right at the top. In 1997 I lived in Alexandria, Washington, and drove past the Pentagon everyday I went to work. First, is anyone on here aware of how much work would need to take place to bring down buildings of that size in a controlled manner? I'm not sure that working in the building and driving past one gives you anymore qualification than the guesswork on here tbf? Only going by what you've written there of course. As for the amount of work taken to bring a building down....No I have absolutely no idea! If the end product was to create a situation that was enough to convince the world of generational enemy though, maybe the workload was worth it? Wars make more money than it would cost to bring down a few large buildings. So, what do you reckon happened nobby? There is so much evidence that counters what the officials say that it is virtually impossible to believe the official line. Sorry, I couldn't write more yesterday as I am in Greece and the beach keeps calling?  It is a myth that the Pentagon is heavily defended because it is not. The work needed to demolish the twin towers would take months and by it's nature would be highly visable. What happened? I will tell you. Terrorists hi-jacked some planes and flew them into the buildings. It really is that simple. As for the Pentagon, I do not rely on vague 'eyewitness' accounts, but the actual testimony of friends who were in the military and would know the difference between an aircraft and a cruise missle. I mentioned I lived there to show I have friends who live around th e re and also work in the Pentagon and Crystal City. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 16:37:07 GMT
When all that's left on the rubble is the supposed passports of the hijackers and a bandana, you're gonna have to be the one to prove your version of events to me because I ain't buying it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 18:04:18 GMT
I'm not sure that working in the building and driving past one gives you anymore qualification than the guesswork on here tbf? Only going by what you've written there of course. As for the amount of work taken to bring a building down....No I have absolutely no idea! If the end product was to create a situation that was enough to convince the world of generational enemy though, maybe the workload was worth it? Wars make more money than it would cost to bring down a few large buildings. So, what do you reckon happened nobby? There is so much evidence that counters what the officials say that it is virtually impossible to believe the official line. Sorry, I couldn't write more yesterday as I am in Greece and the beach keeps calling? It is a myth that the Pentagon is heavily defended because it is not. The work needed to demolish the twin towers would take months and by it's nature would be highly visable. What happened? I will tell you. Terrorists hi-jacked some planes and flew them into the buildings. It really is that simple. As for the Pentagon, I do not rely on vague 'eyewitness' accounts, but the actual testimony of friends who were in the military and would know the difference between an aircraft and a cruise missle. I mentioned I lived there to show I have friends who live around th e re and also work in the Pentagon and Crystal City. Ooooh on the beach huh! Nice.
The military thing is interesting because there was an exercise going on at the time of 911 which 'apparently' buggered up the communication lines of what was real and fake! The missile....the footage is so poor quality that it is difficult to definitely say. Also being in the military, we have sat around and watched these documentaries a few times and no one can be sure.(Aviation spec too) Unlikely to be a missile mind you, just saying that the footage is poor. Have you seen the shots of the remains of the towers shortly after collapse? The support beams and rubble? Looks like a classic demolition job to the untrained eye, not to mention the almost perfect way they came down causing minimal damage to the surrounding structures. It's certainly interesting and the debates and disagreements will last forever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 18:07:37 GMT
When all that's left on the rubble is the supposed passports of the hijackers and a bandana, you're gonna have to be the one to prove your version of events to me because I ain't buying it. Mad eh. Couldn't even find a desk, phone or computer but there's a frickin passport lying there from one of the planes?! |
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) steelwork is not always up to spec, Dont forget in the past the towers were bombed in the basement to try and collapse it, could that have had an effect, lets face it no one would admit repairs were shoddy, to me it looked like a very controlled collapse it hardly touched anything else, if something came down randomly due to damage then surely it would have fell in a random direction , the truth will out but i fear not in our lifetime, i think all 3 buildings came down very neatly , too much of a coincidence 
It is a myth that the Pentagon is heavily defended because it is not. The work needed to demolish the twin towers would take months and by it's nature would be highly visable. What happened? I will tell you. Terrorists hi-jacked some planes and flew them into the buildings. It really is that simple.