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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 18:41:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 8:49:31 GMT
I love these conspiracy theories. I really like the way people set themselves up as some sort of expert (the bloke says, "I’ve studied and graduated EMT-B certification with the state of Oregon. I’ve been on calls with heavy arterial bleeds, internal bleeding, fatalities, doa’s. I am speaking from direct personal experience with severe trauma.") Yet, after reading their 'expert analysis' it's pretty easy to blow holes in their claims. "If you loose both your legs from explosive trauma half your blood is gone in one minute via the femoral arteries, you're dead after two." - He obviously hasn't had that much experience then.
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Post by inee on Jun 2, 2015 9:31:56 GMT
Love this type of stuff , the yanks have a history of smoke and mirrors , couldn't decide on this one take the guy with leg off , sometimes if a leg is shattered in a certail way then it wont bleed out for a while , ie the artery could be clamped by a bone fracture or a muscle, , but some bits dont add up, not mentioned is one of the people in the footage is the double of a headmistress who had her school shot up, it's these types of familiar faces that give rise to a lot of conspiracies.
Do a search on 911 spoken word by Jello Biafra , it's a long listen but he explains how as an american he had to turn to the british press to find out what was happening as in the us it was fairly censored.
Others which are a good read are the so called family camps in america , set up to house families in case of emergency and to so say keep people out , but the fencing is put up to keep people in not out makes you think.
There is definantley stuff going on worldwide , but just how much is going on and are a lot of these conspiracies put out there to keep people away from the truth by concentrating on other stuff.
some good reads. Books listed below are freely available to read online , but always read the opposite views to form your own opinions of what happens in the world, also a good intro to how and why conspiracy theories pop up, also note that a few of the books are specifically about big business and links to the rise of the third Reich , and how the whole world knew what was going on but ignored it , i love reading about the wwII era as it's one of the most well documented periods of world history with classified documents being released all the time. but taken in context with the rest of history it appears somethings never change Vatican Assassins: “Wounded In The House Of My Friends” a good read hard going but good, don't take it as read but balance it out by looking up other stuff.
Hunt For Zero Point by Nick Cook , a book about anti gravity work worldwide, an easy read , one of those books you cant put down
IBM and the Holocaust Very good read , again how big business followed the money, and more fascinating is the way in which they did it
THE BEST ENEMY MONEY CAN BUY Antony C. Sutton heavyish reading but a fascinating insight to how countries still trade and supply arms to each other during war
Henry ford and the nazi's . lots of books etc out there, if read before or after the book above illustrates how buisness doesnt stop for anyone ,
Some more fascinating stuff to google ,does the uk still own america ,some good stuff out there.
American debt and china. another google session Fascinating but scary stuff, how china own the us debt.
There's so much more out there , some of it will make uncomfortable reading for some based on your beliefs ,but also remember history is taught depending on which way the wind blows at the time.
Need to goto shops, now thats another consipracy
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Post by inee on Jun 2, 2015 9:36:52 GMT
I love these conspiracy theories. I really like the way people set themselves up as some sort of expert (the bloke says, "I’ve studied and graduated EMT-B certification with the state of Oregon. I’ve been on calls with heavy arterial bleeds, internal bleeding, fatalities, doa’s. I am speaking from direct personal experience with severe trauma.") Yet, after reading their 'expert analysis' it's pretty easy to blow holes in their claims. "If you loose both your legs from explosive trauma half your blood is gone in one minute via the femoral arteries, you're dead after two." - He obviously hasn't had that much experience then. I was typing when you replied you make something in my post easier to understand and that is the bit about traumatic amputation, to see evidence of how many survive these trauma's we need to look no further than at the amount of servicemen surviving blasts, (hope it makes sense) . the one thing that took a while for me to workout(ish), the the window shattered outwards, everyone expects it to blow inwards but i think a combination of shock wave and a vacuum created within milliseconds of each other could explain why the window shattered the wrong way
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 9:47:03 GMT
Hollywood has a lot to answer for, as the vast majority of people think explosions, and their effects, are the same as we see in films........they are not.
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Post by baggins on Jun 2, 2015 11:21:30 GMT
Hollywood has a lot to answer for, as the vast majority of people think explosions, and their effects, are the same as we see in films........they are not. You mean the A Team wasn't real?
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Post by supergas on Jun 2, 2015 17:00:06 GMT
Hollywood has a lot to answer for, as the vast majority of people think explosions, and their effects, are the same as we see in films........they are not. You mean the A Team wasn't real? they could always find the right size allen-key in a normal random garage....it must have been faked...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 7:46:48 GMT
Hollywood has a lot to answer for, as the vast majority of people think explosions, and their effects, are the same as we see in films........they are not. Hollywood is getting better at this though in fairness. Companies now draft in SMEs iot make scenes realistic. There are firms that use ex mil for soldier scenes for example.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 8:15:05 GMT
Yes they do. I have many friends who are ex-military and they also work part-time on films to make a few bob....but there is realistic and there is also the realism that people really do not want, or need to see.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 8:25:07 GMT
Zeitgeist: The Movie (HD) Part I - The Greatest …:
Religion conspiracy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 13:20:06 GMT
Zeitgeist: The Movie (HD) Part I - The Greatest …: Religion conspiracy. Very good that, I watched it a while back. Some of it can be easily debunked though which devalues some of the interesting points they do make.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 13:38:59 GMT
I'll have a peek at it later, but I don't expect to learn anything.
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Post by inee on Jun 3, 2015 14:13:40 GMT
Hmm i typed a massive reply to 79 but it's gone, ffs conspiracy in the conspiracy thread whatever next.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 15:46:42 GMT
Hmm i typed a massive reply to 79 but it's gone, ffs conspiracy in the conspiracy thread whatever next. Strange...
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Post by inee on Jun 3, 2015 22:13:14 GMT
79 it was about programmes on bbc4 and other smaller channels that are challenging the main religions using the biblical texts and archeology, some programmes have very good evidence, which if compared to the texts are more plausable than the written word, but each and everyone although provide as close to proof as possible ,are all denounced by the church.
there was a good one about moses the other night, very plausable explanation as to who moses was , another the other week on Sodom and Gomorrah archealogfical evidence which appeared to tie in with biblical text, ie rain of fire, was explained as an air burst meteor strike .
A few more a few months back about new scriptures alleged to be from mary ,doubting thomas and judas, again all denounced. another about the parting of the sea very convincing arguement due to a freak weather pattern, again denied
although i dont believe i find it fascinating how it's such an effective way of controlling the masses
Watched that film link posted and one thing thats true is it's all about money, throughout the world churches are some of the biggest land owners, think about this for a minute or two, if you atre into mass control what better way than to own land and rent it out, say a non believer rented if they didnt bend to the churches will, evict em using the words unbeliever or blaspheme and no one will think twice. I try to take a balanced approach look up arguments from both sides as it gives a more balanced view.
try the vatican assassination link in a previous post it's an eye opener although try and research parts of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 12:08:40 GMT
The History channel have a Bible Decoded series on I think which was really good and similar to what you've mentioned.
They put up a lot of very credible arguments whilst remaining essentially respectful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 12:10:50 GMT
Roman Catholicism was directly invented as a means of social control.
Alexander introduced it to control the expansion of the empire.
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Post by inee on Jun 4, 2015 13:27:41 GMT
hugo read the vatican assassinations i pointed too, an eye opener for some, i found it kinda aligned with some of my thoughts, there's a good bit about world leaders during ww2 , dont take it as the full truth but it does make you want to look further.
theres a series on yesterday think its called bible conspiracies ,watched it last night,
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Post by inee on Jun 4, 2015 13:31:25 GMT
Roman Catholicism was directly invented as a means of social control. Alexander introduced it to control the expansion of the empire. theres also a lot of evidence that a meeting took place between a roman emperor and all churches to decide what would and would not be included, in the book i mentioned , theres a very good part on muslim and christianity, it seems brollocks at first sight but the more you look the more sence it makes
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Post by baggins on Jun 5, 2015 10:59:22 GMT
Roman Catholicism was directly invented as a means of social control. Alexander introduced it to control the expansion of the empire. Hence confession.
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