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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 15, 2016 14:38:05 GMT
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Post by aghast on Feb 15, 2016 14:38:27 GMT
Russian government doctors are unsure whether the "massive heart attack" was connected to the cyanide pill found in his throat, the bullet lodged in his chest, or the radioactive vodka found in his stomach. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 15, 2016 14:46:55 GMT
LSD experiment? The US were doing tests in the 60s so could be a Soviet version. from Wiki - LSD can cause pupil dilation, reduced appetite, and wakefulness. Other physical reactions to LSD are highly variable and nonspecific, some of which may be secondary to the psychological effects of LSD. Among the reported symptoms are numbness, weakness, nausea, hypothermia or hyperthermia, elevated blood sugar, goose bumps, heart rate increase, jaw clenching, perspiration, saliva production, mucus production, sleeplessness, hyperreflexia, and tremors. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 15, 2016 15:03:30 GMT
LSD experiment? The US were doing tests in the 60s so could be a Soviet version. from Wiki - LSD can cause pupil dilation, reduced appetite, and wakefulness. Other physical reactions to LSD are highly variable and nonspecific, some of which may be secondary to the psychological effects of LSD. Among the reported symptoms are numbness, weakness, nausea, hypothermia or hyperthermia, elevated blood sugar, goose bumps, heart rate increase, jaw clenching, perspiration, saliva production, mucus production, sleeplessness, hyperreflexia, and tremors. The MK Ultra stuff is properly scarey. Possibly more so because the truth of it was actually worse than the conspiracy. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 18:22:05 GMT
There was a documentary last week on this......something like the History Channel. It was a strange one, but they concluded that the people did not die where they were found. There were a couple of reasons for this. One. The place their tent was found was not on their planned route. Two. The tent was incorrectly put up. As the group were very experienced in dealing with the harsh climate etc, this was deemed to be not right. Three. There was a ski pole found at the tent, which was not on their very detailed inventory. All of their equipment was there and accounted for, except for this one odd ski pole. There is (apparently) some information that says that the Russian military were dropping air-burst mines in the area (testing). The conclusion was that the mangled bodies were caused by the air-burst mines, causing the remaining people to panic and run (without boots etc) whereupon they died from exposure. The military then moved all the bodies to a location which was outside the area they were using for testing. I personally didn't think the conclusion was viable because in the 1950's, if the Russian military accidentally killed someone then they had better ways to cover it up. |
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Post by inee on Feb 15, 2016 20:45:32 GMT
LSD experiment? The US were doing tests in the 60s so could be a Soviet version. from Wiki - LSD can cause pupil dilation, reduced appetite, and wakefulness. Other physical reactions to LSD are highly variable and nonspecific, some of which may be secondary to the psychological effects of LSD. Among the reported symptoms are numbness, weakness, nausea, hypothermia or hyperthermia, elevated blood sugar, goose bumps, heart rate increase, jaw clenching, perspiration, saliva production, mucus production, sleeplessness, hyperreflexia, and tremors. The MK Ultra stuff is properly scarey. Possibly more so because the truth of it was actually worse than the conspiracy. Dead kennedy's wrote a few songs about that type of stuff. these include government flu, i am the owl, bleed for me , trust your mechanic ,kill the poor and a few others, good listen to , the yanks also did other experiments including giving syphalis and other diseases to whole communities and misdiagnosing them in one area whilst treating others. We as a country haven't exactly got a good clean record when it comes to public tests of harmful diseases or chemical weapons it's rumoured a hell of a lot of so called epidemics have accisently been released from porton down, and like america some chemicals have been added to water to see if theres a mass reaction of effect |
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Post by inee on Feb 15, 2016 20:50:22 GMT
LSD experiment? The US were doing tests in the 60s so could be a Soviet version. from Wiki - LSD can cause pupil dilation, reduced appetite, and wakefulness. Other physical reactions to LSD are highly variable and nonspecific, some of which may be secondary to the psychological effects of LSD. Among the reported symptoms are numbness, weakness, nausea, hypothermia or hyperthermia, elevated blood sugar, goose bumps, heart rate increase, jaw clenching, perspiration, saliva production, mucus production, sleeplessness, hyperreflexia, and tremors. Thing is with lsd it affects everyone in different ways, one tab can cause permanent mental damage is some people whilst others can take it for years and have no ill effects after they have come down, but i tell ee one thing the trips are fookin legendary. If i recall correctly a fair bit of the f**k'd up sh**e that happened in vietnam was as a direct result of drug trials. Even soldiers of the 3rd reich were issued a kind of speed to help them through the day , but no one had tested it long enough to see the addiction and problems it caused I also think the uk experimented with lsd as well |
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Post by inee on Feb 15, 2016 20:53:49 GMT
There was a documentary last week on this......something like the History Channel. It was a strange one, but they concluded that the people did not die where they were found. There were a couple of reasons for this. One. The place their tent was found was not on their planned route. Two. The tent was incorrectly put up. As the group were very experienced in dealing with the harsh climate etc, this was deemed to be not right. Three. There was a ski pole found at the tent, which was not on their very detailed inventory. All of their equipment was there and accounted for, except for this one odd ski pole. There is (apparently) some information that says that the Russian military were dropping air-burst mines in the area (testing). The conclusion was that the mangled bodies were caused by the air-burst mines, causing the remaining people to panic and run (without boots etc) whereupon they died from exposure. The military then moved all the bodies to a location which was outside the area they were using for testing. I personally didn't think the conclusion was viable because in the 1950's, if the Russian military accidentally killed someone then they had better ways to cover it up. I prefer the yeti theory  , i had forgotten about this un, could be as simple as nobby suggests hypothermia. if it was the russian military there would not have been any evidence left behind and they would have probably been declared defectors |
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Post by inee on Feb 15, 2016 20:54:31 GMT
Russian government doctors are unsure whether the "massive heart attack" was connected to the cyanide pill found in his throat, the bullet lodged in his chest, or the radioactive vodka found in his stomach. All we really know is he wasn't the stig  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 20:55:16 GMT
One of the things with hypothermia, is that it can give you the feeling of being 'too hot', which can obviously lead to real problems. I forget what the correct term for it is.
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Post by inee on Feb 15, 2016 21:01:25 GMT
feckin cold induced stupidity i think its called |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 15, 2016 21:28:21 GMT
One of the things with hypothermia, is that it can give you the feeling of being 'too hot', which can obviously lead to real problems. I forget what the correct term for it is. Too much Newcastle Brown Ale. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 15, 2016 21:36:23 GMT
I don't buy the Russian military theory.
If the Russian military want you dead or want to cover up an accidental killing you are not getting found.
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Post by inee on Feb 15, 2016 21:48:58 GMT
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