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Post by bs10er on Jul 21, 2014 20:47:05 GMT
109 names on the list,92 actually attended! Left feeling impressed with DC and Chris Jelf who seems to have fire in his belly. Meeting not perfect of course but ANY communication is better than none don't care what you say. Plenty of chances after meeting ended to speak to everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 21:31:32 GMT
Ok. I can say this openly now. NH says no interest in the club. The new Oxford owner wanted in but was knocked back. They were also approached by a group before relegation but knocked them back and they now own a L2 team. There is much BS going on. Kind of glad I have hives. I would not be able to listen to the crap being spouted. If they have a " watertight" contract with Sainsbury then why did they ask them if they would pull out ? Think about that. NH answered all questions pretty well. That is coming from somebody with a glass qtr full. Apart from a few small rebellious outbursts, most attendees seemed satisfied with the answers given to the questions. It also ran over by 15 minutes. Hats off to the Board members in attendance. They gave me what I needed even if it wasn't all great.
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Post by philbemmygas on Jul 21, 2014 21:33:49 GMT
Ok. I can say this openly now. NH says no interest in the club. The new Oxford owner wanted in but was knocked back. They were also approached by a group before relegation but knocked them back and they now own a L2 team. There is much BS going on. Kind of glad I have hives. I would not be able to listen to the crap being spouted. If they have a " watertight" contract with Sainsbury then why did they ask them if they would pull out ? Think about that. NH answered all questions pretty well. That is coming from somebody with a glass qtr full. Apart from a few small rebellious outbursts, most attendees seemed satisfied with the answers given to the questions. It also ran over by 15 minutes. Hats off to the Board members in attendance. They gave me what I needed even if it wasn't all great. Simon, are you a bit more positive now? Beer on Saturday?
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Post by fanboy on Jul 21, 2014 21:36:04 GMT
Ok. I can say this openly now. NH says no interest in the club. The new Oxford owner wanted in but was knocked back. They were also approached by a group before relegation but knocked them back and they now own a L2 team. There is much BS going on. Kind of glad I have hives. I would not be able to listen to the crap being spouted. If they have a " watertight" contract with Sainsbury then why did they ask them if they would pull out ? Think about that. NH answered all questions pretty well. That is coming from somebody with a glass qtr full. Apart from a few small rebellious outbursts, most attendees seemed satisfied with the answers given to the questions. It also ran over by 15 minutes.  Hats off to the Board members in attendance. They gave me what I needed even if it wasn't all great. SIMON HAS RETURNED
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Post by Strange Gas on Jul 21, 2014 21:42:14 GMT
Not asking for a Higgs love in but after tonight I do see things differnently. He and the board have it would seem been a dreadful judge of character in appointing managers / dofs who have both failed the club on the pitch and cost it dear. It's little wonder they are so defensive. They know full well they have f&cked it up, costing themselves dear. Doesn't make it alright but feels like they were just taken for a ride
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Post by peterparker on Jul 21, 2014 21:44:46 GMT
Not asking for a Higgs love in but after tonight I do see things differnently. He and the board have it would seem been a dreadful judge of character in appointing managers / dofs who have both failed the club on the pitch and cost it dear. It's little wonder they are so defensive. They know full well they have f&cked it up, costing themselves dear. Doesn't make it alright but feels like they were just taken for a ride Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I agree with that sentiment, but i got the impression they dont know what to do but off the club on someone else if they can
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Post by phillistine on Jul 21, 2014 21:50:49 GMT
Not asking for a Higgs love in but after tonight I do see things differnently. He and the board have it would seem been a dreadful judge of character in appointing managers / dofs who have both failed the club on the pitch and cost it dear. It's little wonder they are so defensive. They know full well they have f&cked it up, costing themselves dear. Doesn't make it alright but feels like they were just taken for a ride Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I agree with that sentiment, but i got the impression they dont know what to do but off the club on someone else if they can Someone mentioned Chris Jelf and responsibility for Fooball realed matters? Is that correct or did i misunderstand?
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Post by markczgas on Jul 21, 2014 22:06:03 GMT
Not asking for a Higgs love in but after tonight I do see things differnently. He and the board have it would seem been a dreadful judge of character in appointing managers / dofs who have both failed the club on the pitch and cost it dear. It's little wonder they are so defensive. They know full well they have f&cked it up, costing themselves dear. Doesn't make it alright but feels like they were just taken for a ride Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk spot on Strange !! I sadly get the feeling that success next season will be down to luck and not chemistry (a strategy ). I'm trying to be positive but really I'm scared for the future of our club for the next three seasons. They are clinging on to the UWE dream and then they can breathe !
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Post by markczgas on Jul 21, 2014 22:13:40 GMT
109 names on the list,92 actually attended! Left feeling impressed with DC and Chris Jelf who seems to have fire in his belly. Meeting not perfect of course but ANY communication is better than none don't care what you say. Plenty of chances after meeting ended to speak to everyone. Maybe in the future we should just sit round tables and chat Rovers with these guys (directors ) who knows it might break down barriers and result in more understanding. These Q & As have some impact ( well done those of you allowed to ask questions - there were some real belters) , but KM's behaviour and NH's demeanour and defensiveness left a bad taste in my mouth and yet again - too many questions and some people talking crap and forgetting to actually ask a question. Didn't all of you think there was no communication amongst them all to ensure SC EGM questions weren't asked again and as you know Pat none of The Wellie groups questions were on the list and so therefore not asked - so so disappointing ! What was the point of NH ringing me and promising us that they would be answered !!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 22:23:33 GMT
Ken didn't have an easy job in fairness to him. He was abrupt and came across rude at times but he is a good guy and trying to roll a meeting like that can be tricky. It could easily have got out of hand if he had been too soft imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 22:36:13 GMT
NH answered all questions pretty well. That is coming from somebody with a glass qtr full. Apart from a few small rebellious outbursts, most attendees seemed satisfied with the answers given to the questions. It also ran over by 15 minutes. Hats off to the Board members in attendance. They gave me what I needed even if it wasn't all great. Simon, are you a bit more positive now? Beer on Saturday? Saturday? Que haces?
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Post by markczgas on Jul 21, 2014 22:37:14 GMT
Ken didn't have an easy job in fairness to him. He was abrupt and came across rude at times but he is a good guy and trying to roll a meeting like that can be tricky. It could easily have got out of hand if he had been too soft imo. Why on earth do you think it would have got out of hand ? We aren't all on ASBOs !!! His whole tone and manner was wrong - many of the board looked very very tense - too much US and THEM which only relented at the end !! Admittedly, Ken doesn't normally come across like that but he is always of the opinion that BRFC are great - team, commnunity etc!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 22:41:23 GMT
Out of hand in terms of conduct of a forum. There were some hecklers, there was very little time. The meeting could have gone on for twice as long. His job was not an easy one. That's a job that nobody wants.
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Post by otleygas on Jul 22, 2014 0:20:18 GMT
Out of hand in terms of conduct of a forum. There were some hecklers, there was very little time. The meeting could have gone on for twice as long. His job was not an easy one. That's a job that nobody wants. Perhaps we could suggest that moderating an online forum might be an easier option than trying to compare a 'live' meeting? Perhaps that's what the IT literate board vacancy is for?
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jul 22, 2014 0:24:38 GMT
Out of hand in terms of conduct of a forum. There were some hecklers, there was very little time. The meeting could have gone on for twice as long. His job was not an easy one. That's a job that nobody wants. Perhaps we could suggest that moderating an online forum might be an easier option than trying to compare a 'live' meeting? Perhaps that's what the IT literate board vacancy is for? allow me to confirm it is a bloody ball ache.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 0:29:56 GMT
Once again told no board, no Rovers. Nothing about Wycombe. Everything is Wards fault and LL fault. No acceptance of blame.Toni Watola is brilliant. Questions not answered by the directors of the Welly group. Vague and defensive Higgs. Did not mention that people had made offers to take the club on. No directors losing their jobs, no news of the fabled review. A monster success then pmsl.
Oi vey. Ay gevalt.
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jul 22, 2014 1:18:52 GMT
Once again told no board, no Rovers. Nothing about Wycombe. Everything is Wards fault and LL fault. No acceptance of blame.Toni Watola is brilliant. Questions not answered by the directors of the Welly group. Vague and defensive Higgs. Did not mention that people had made offers to take the club on. No directors losing their jobs, no news of the fabled review. A monster success then pmsl. Oi vey. Ay gevalt. kp you absolute beaut. Let me hit up a counter argument for the sake of the devil. no board, no rovers. Maybe true? LL payed silly for players that saw us relegated, we have since been trying to get these same 'quality' layers in but have been bitten in the arse when ot turns out they are just in it for the dollar. Ward let players dictate their own social lives. I e getting thoroughly blitzed whenever they wanted. Not good. Toni watola is not brilliant but they can say nothing else as he will be staying. Did mention he had spoken to loads of interested parties about taking over but none followed through or indeed had the required cash. The review has ultimately ended with a premise that if noone wants to buy them out, they are still in charge. Higgsy offered his resignation (and fair play) but there were no takers. Now don't get me wrong. I dunno what to believe. But those were seemingly the answers put forward. Now what say you? Halouisin nahda sinua.
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Post by philbemmygas on Jul 22, 2014 5:26:02 GMT
Simon, are you a bit more positive now? Beer on Saturday? Saturday? Que haces? Confused on dates, following Saturday at the Coventry game. I am collecting for Alzheimer's this Saturday morning @ Argos in Bemmy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 6:29:22 GMT
Once again told no board, no Rovers. Nothing about Wycombe. Everything is Wards fault and LL fault. No acceptance of blame.Toni Watola is brilliant. Questions not answered by the directors of the Welly group. Vague and defensive Higgs. Did not mention that people had made offers to take the club on. No directors losing their jobs, no news of the fabled review. A monster success then pmsl. Oi vey. Ay gevalt. The board accepted blame for football matters. They stated they had met their objectives financially in removing extenal debt and with the uwe but had failed to build a successfull side. Brian apologised to me on behalf of the club for the relegation. Just trying to give a balanced picture. They failed to discuss the review (no question), they failed to mention Wycombe (no question). Failed to give a good answer for why they over budget. They were quite open about footballing matters, DC slagged off last years team, Elliott Richards in particular. I think its unrealistic to have expected everything from the first meeting but its a start.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 22, 2014 7:10:37 GMT
Once again told no board, no Rovers. Nothing about Wycombe. Everything is Wards fault and LL fault. No acceptance of blame.Toni Watola is brilliant. Questions not answered by the directors of the Welly group. Vague and defensive Higgs. Did not mention that people had made offers to take the club on. No directors losing their jobs, no news of the fabled review. A monster success then pmsl. Oi vey. Ay gevalt. The board accepted blame for football matters. They stated they had met their objectives financially in removing extenal debt and with the uwe but had failed to build a successfull side. Brian apologised to me on behalf of the club for the relegation. Just trying to give a balanced picture. They failed to discuss the review (no question), they failed to mention Wycombe (no question). Failed to give a good answer for why they over budget. They were quite open about footballing matters, DC slagged off last years team, Elliott Richards in particular. I think its unrealistic to have expected everything from the first meeting but its a start. I agree. I wasn't happen with many of the financial answers. They try to fob you off by saying external debt is down (which is good) and tell you it's okay because they are putting the money in, without telling you why they have to put so much money in. Shame there was no question why Rochdale etc manage on gates of 3,500. Do they spend 6,500 gates of money or...
As I said, I get the feeling they know they screwed up, but not the feeling they know how to sort it out, short of finding someone else with money (at what ever conditions/price the board set)
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