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Post by markczgas on Jul 22, 2014 15:00:07 GMT
Sorry 92 people went. The Wellie Group represented yours, mine and around 100 people's questions (that's how many supported the group, directly and indirectly that was the whole point of calling the meetings and so trying to unify supporters. If people want to trivialise this then fair enough - lets all be individuals about it and have 50 questions asked (like we did again) and no in depth answers provided. No one will be any the wiser.
Mark, The 13 questions are on this thread , apart from one or two similar questions which were asked by some others the answer is MOST.
The clubs footballing philosophy, The injuries issues and fitness assessments of playes and testing, DC and MS's performances last season, the roles of the directors for next season, etc etc
The guy who said my disappointment has clouded my overall judgement - sorry mate I'm not that vain. What does unifying support mean ? what does NH's word that we will be able to ask these questions mean if he told me this by phone ? Is that respecting supporters and treating them with respect and some worth ? As one guy at the back quite rightly said - it is the board who should have been PROACTIVE after our disastrous relegation and not fans like me desperately appealing to the club in order to rally everyone round !! If we have an average season this season what do people think our crowds will be come February ? this will NOT just be down to results but total disillushionment among the fanbase that OUR club will be allowed to bumble along with no changes taking place. Good Luck Rovers, but don't expect a strategy/ fresh faces and ideas !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 15:20:58 GMT
This thread alone and the exchanges have the potential to further disillusion fans. Mark, if you are serious about what you guys are trying to achieve I would suggest maybe taking a more considerate line with fellows who are already fragile. It seemed clear that there will be opportunities in future for QnA s so any questions not asked will get another chance if they weren't already. Or, there is always an option to ask in writing/email to the club?
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Post by peterparker on Jul 22, 2014 16:33:42 GMT
This thread alone and the exchanges have the potential to further disillusion fans. Mark, if you are serious about what you guys are trying to achieve I would suggest maybe taking a more considerate line with fellows who are already fragile. It seemed clear that there will be opportunities in future for QnA s so any questions not asked will get another chance if they weren't already. Or, there is always an option to ask in writing/email to the club? I thought it was said Mark spoke to Nick on the phone, but otherwise no response to the questions
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 18:42:29 GMT
"Shame there was no question why Rochdale etc manage on gates of 3,500. Do they spend 6,500 gates of money or..." This is another question submitted but we were not able to ask. Just to clarify "no question" doesn't mean nobody wanted to ask one. Again the format ended up with many many questions - some very good some a repeat of THE SC EGM ( great organisation) . Not one of the 13 Wellie Group questions including one specifically about the review - could be asked - NOT INCLUDED !! NH "Did a job on uS " . WE supporters can only be a hindrence ! So sad ! If fans like me and my son walk away and others in The Wellie group it seeme like the club does not care ! Apathy Rovers FC !! Mark, Never be surprised at the conniving way of those that own the club. You are not the first nor the last that has been outright lied to mate. That Higgs called you and then never held to his promises says more about him than it says about you or the fans. I would even believe it was done on purpose as he sees the group as Internet warriors in anycase. The club have continued to haemorrhage fans for many years. I know many families here in Kingswood who quit going and now their kids have no ties to the club. At the end of the day you tried. That's more than most can say. Whether people want to believe it or not, the club is in crisis. It's like watching a car crash in slow motion and knowing the outcome. It's all very sad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 18:52:18 GMT
This thread alone and the exchanges have the potential to further disillusion fans. Mark, if you are serious about what you guys are trying to achieve I would suggest maybe taking a more considerate line with fellows who are already fragile. It seemed clear that there will be opportunities in future for QnA s so any questions not asked will get another chance if they weren't already. Or, there is always an option to ask in writing/email to the club? But Higgs phoned Mark and made a point of saying the questions would be answered and follow up allowed. Is that an oversight, really ? I'll leave you to make your own judgment on that
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 19:09:33 GMT
Sorry 92 people went. The Wellie Group represented yours, mine and around 100 people's questions (that's how many supported the group, directly and indirectly that was the whole point of calling the meetings and so trying to unify supporters. If people want to trivialise this then fair enough - lets all be individuals about it and have 50 questions asked (like we did again) and no in depth answers provided. No one will be any the wiser. Mark, The 13 questions are on this thread , apart from one or two similar questions which were asked by some others the answer is MOST. The clubs footballing philosophy, The injuries issues and fitness assessments of playes and testing, DC and MS's performances last season, the roles of the directors for next season, etc etc The guy who said my disappointment has clouded my overall judgement - sorry mate I'm not that vain. What does unifying support mean ? what does NH's word that we will be able to ask these questions mean if he told me this by phone ? Is that respecting supporters and treating them with respect and some worth ? As one guy at the back quite rightly said - it is the board who should have been PROACTIVE after our disastrous relegation and not fans like me desperately appealing to the club in order to rally everyone round !! If we have an average season this season what do people think our crowds will be come February ? this will NOT just be down to results but total disillushionment among the fanbase that OUR club will be allowed to bumble along with no changes taking place. Good Luck Rovers, but don't expect a strategy/ fresh faces and ideas ! I got given a sheet by you telliing me what they would be as i didnt attend the first meeting. Perhaps 14 members from the meeting should have agreed to go and submit the 14 questions ?.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 19:11:06 GMT
This thread alone and the exchanges have the potential to further disillusion fans. Mark, if you are serious about what you guys are trying to achieve I would suggest maybe taking a more considerate line with fellows who are already fragile. It seemed clear that there will be opportunities in future for QnA s so any questions not asked will get another chance if they weren't already. Or, there is always an option to ask in writing/email to the club? But Higgs phoned Mark and made a point of saying the questions would be answered and follow up allowed. Is that an oversight, really ? I'll leave you to make your own judgment on that Its Higgs, we are stuck with him
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 19:26:14 GMT
But Higgs phoned Mark and made a point of saying the questions would be answered and follow up allowed. Is that an oversight, really ? I'll leave you to make your own judgment on that Its Higgs, we are stuck with him Yes, because he is unable to let go. Despite his bluster about no one being interested, I know there were. He, BB and GD have nothing else in their lives and being directors of Rovers defines them. They don't want to let go ad will actively stand in the way/veto others who want in. It has already be proven to be so. It's UWE or bust and then, some if the stuff spouted about revenue make no sense. It will take time to build up a customer base. It does not just get built then immediateky make money but if that works for some then fair enough. Seriously, I am done with it now mate so good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 19:29:52 GMT
Most fans dont care, tht is the reality. 45000 went to wembley yet 100 turned up to this meeting. I want a new board but im clearly in the minority.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 20:08:34 GMT
This thread alone and the exchanges have the potential to further disillusion fans. Mark, if you are serious about what you guys are trying to achieve I would suggest maybe taking a more considerate line with fellows who are already fragile. It seemed clear that there will be opportunities in future for QnA s so any questions not asked will get another chance if they weren't already. Or, there is always an option to ask in writing/email to the club? But Higgs phoned Mark and made a point of saying the questions would be answered and follow up allowed. Is that an oversight, really ? I'll leave you to make your own judgment on that I didn't say it was an oversight. I would hazard a guess that most people's queries were touched upon though. There were a number of people that failed to show whilst some people's questions overlapped. Mark and Wellie group should get an opportunity to get answers to any other questions and it looked like everyone was keen to hold a similar event in future. Most of the BoD hung on for up to 20 mins at the end so there was further opportunity for people to close and personal. As has been said by a few, there were about 90 people there last night. Once again our apathy shines through. Too many complaints but when there is a chance to get face to face with the man at the top, people aren't bothered. What must NH think when he turns up and there are 50 empty seats? He can't be doing too bad a job perhaps? It's frustrating, almost as frustrating as people twisting almost every word. Any questions you have. Why not write in and badger the personnel for answers? Or, go along to the next QnA.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 21:01:06 GMT
But Higgs phoned Mark and made a point of saying the questions would be answered and follow up allowed. Is that an oversight, really ? I'll leave you to make your own judgment on that I didn't say it was an oversight. I would hazard a guess that most people's queries were touched upon though. There were a number of people that failed to show whilst some people's questions overlapped. Mark and Wellie group should get an opportunity to get answers to any other questions and it looked like everyone was keen to hold a similar event in future. Most of the BoD hung on for up to 20 mins at the end so there was further opportunity for people to close and personal. As has been said by a few, there were about 90 people there last night. Once again our apathy shines through. Too many complaints but when there is a chance to get face to face with the man at the top, people aren't bothered. What must NH think when he turns up and there are 50 empty seats? He can't be doing too bad a job perhaps? It's frustrating, almost as frustrating as people twisting almost every word. Any questions you have. Why not write in and badger the personnel for answers? Or, go along to the next QnA. I applied. I did not get chosen. I was going to go on someone else's name but then felt that could backfire. I had a bad case if hives from working in the garden as it happens but lucky really as I would not have been able to hold back. I am done with it mucker. I don't need the stress or BS. I will always be interested in the scores and watch match day threads and twitter. This fella does not need the BS in my life but I wish you all good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 21:20:44 GMT
I didn't say it was an oversight. I would hazard a guess that most people's queries were touched upon though. There were a number of people that failed to show whilst some people's questions overlapped. Mark and Wellie group should get an opportunity to get answers to any other questions and it looked like everyone was keen to hold a similar event in future. Most of the BoD hung on for up to 20 mins at the end so there was further opportunity for people to close and personal. As has been said by a few, there were about 90 people there last night. Once again our apathy shines through. Too many complaints but when there is a chance to get face to face with the man at the top, people aren't bothered. What must NH think when he turns up and there are 50 empty seats? He can't be doing too bad a job perhaps? It's frustrating, almost as frustrating as people twisting almost every word. Any questions you have. Why not write in and badger the personnel for answers? Or, go along to the next QnA. I applied. I did not get chosen. I was going to go on someone else's name but then felt that could backfire. I had a bad case if hives from working in the garden as it happens but lucky really as I would not have been able to hold back. I am done with it mucker. I don't need the stress or BS. I will always be interested in the scores and watch match day threads and twitter. This fella does not need the BS in my life but I wish you all good luck. You won't be alone. If we make the play off final there will be a scramble for tickets but our average this season will be below 5K(position relative throughout the season of course)
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Post by philbemmygas on Jul 23, 2014 11:27:36 GMT
Its Higgs, we are stuck with him Yes, because he is unable to let go. Despite his bluster about no one being interested, I know there were. He, BB and GD have nothing else in their lives and being directors of Rovers defines them. They don't want to let go ad will actively stand in the way/veto others who want in. It has already be proven to be so. It's UWE or bust and then, some if the stuff spouted about revenue make no sense. It will take time to build up a customer base. It does not just get built then immediateky make money but if that works for some then fair enough. Seriously, I am done with it now mate so good luck. Jools, denigrating the BoD is one thing but certain individuals you are pertaining to have multitudes of interest outside of Rovers. you should really steer clear of public forums if your personal problems (perceived or otherwise) with them affect your life so badly. Write a post, walk away, come back & read it. Can save unnecessary stress me old mate
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 11:51:35 GMT
Yes, because he is unable to let go. Despite his bluster about no one being interested, I know there were. He, BB and GD have nothing else in their lives and being directors of Rovers defines them. They don't want to let go ad will actively stand in the way/veto others who want in. It has already be proven to be so. It's UWE or bust and then, some if the stuff spouted about revenue make no sense. It will take time to build up a customer base. It does not just get built then immediateky make money but if that works for some then fair enough. Seriously, I am done with it now mate so good luck. Jools, denigrating the BoD is one thing but certain individuals you are pertaining to have multitudes of interest outside of Rovers. you should really steer clear of public forums if your personal problems (perceived or otherwise) with them affect your life so badly. Write a post, walk away, come back & read it. Can save unnecessary stress me old mate Lol I have no personal problems Phil. It's an opinion mate that is based on all sorts of stuff. Ok, I'll put it another way, they enjoy the profile boost that owning Rovers gives them. There is a certain kudos that comes with owning a footy club as many are the plaything of wealthy individuals. Modern football is not even a pale facsimile of what it was. If our main directors did not have Rovers, would they be so well known ? That is basically what I am saying. Obviously I could be wrong, lord knows I get a lot wrong and I make mistakes as it's just part of being human. My belief is that they won't let go because, regardless of certain protestations, they enjoy it. Is that any better for you Phil ? BTW, I am perfectly chilled with no anger or worry now. I will always look out for the results and keep an eye on match threads but, other than that, I am done with it. Hopefully at some point in the future I will regain some enthusiasm for Rovers again but I fear for the existence of the club as I believe the bottom has not yet been reached. Am off to Portishead to lay around the pool. Adios amigo
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 14:56:23 GMT
Is there a 'champagne uncorked' smilie on here?
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Post by markczgas on Jul 24, 2014 14:20:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 15:17:05 GMT
Are most of the rovers comments from teds? It really seems like a ted love in. I wonder if the teds that are on a wind up realise that they are winding up other teds?
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