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Post by baggins on Jan 3, 2016 14:37:40 GMT
I expect at least 3 new signings to have a right go at achieving 3rd place. The Orient, Luton and Plymouth games would have yielded at least 100K of un budgeted income from bumper attendances ect. Gaffney wants to come to us so its down to us to land him if he's our first choice target. Fully trust DC to get right additions to strengthen our promotion push. Anything less than 3 new signings IMO says that the club/board lack serious ambition for the short term. Oh let's not start with Board lack ambition. Cambridge now want a fee. Do we have it? Anyone know? Do we even know what they now want? But to say they lack ambition is silly.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 3, 2016 14:39:14 GMT
One thing we all seem to be forgetting in the equation, is if you listen to Gaffney he is obviously no fool, he knows his stock value has increased and I am in no doubt will taking that into account when negotiating his terms.That alone may be insurmountable if DC has a strict policy on salaries. even worse, he has an honours degree in Accountancy :-) Btw - personally i think he'll be playing for us very soon, be it on loan or perm. The 'facts' of the case haven't changed (e.g. Camb not fancying him, his contract running down, his age, Camb having lots of loanees they want to sort out / keep, he can get what he wants here). he's human as well. after 9 months out & a contract running out i imagine he's a bit concerned about paying the bills this summer. I doubt he'll take the risk of a loan or move elsewhere, where he could be on bench etc. The only thing that has changed is 4 goals in 2 games.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 3, 2016 14:41:34 GMT
It's all a game. Cambridge have moved the goalposts and I can't blame them for doing so. At the same time I don't expect us to get mugged into spending over the odds for a player Cambridge haven't been overly fussed about keeping. At the end of the day we have made Gaffney feel more at home so I don't doubt he would prefer to be with us. We just have to be patient and bide our time. Hopefully we can keep him for nothing or a small fee at most.
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Post by Nortongashead on Jan 3, 2016 14:47:12 GMT
I expect at least 3 new signings to have a right go at achieving 3rd place. The Orient, Luton and Plymouth games would have yielded at least 100K of un budgeted income from bumper attendances ect. Gaffney wants to come to us so its down to us to land him if he's our first choice target. Fully trust DC to get right additions to strengthen our promotion push. Anything less than 3 new signings IMO says that the club/board lack serious ambition for the short term. Oh let's not start with Board lack ambition. Cambridge now want a fee. Do we have it? Anyone know? Do we even know what they now want? But to say they lack ambition is silly. I'm not saying they do lack ambition. They may provide necessary funds to be competitive for promotion.
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Post by lulworthgas on Jan 3, 2016 14:50:46 GMT
The board need to gamble here. The prize of promotion more than outweighs the risk and the lad looks like he could attract a bigger fee if he continues his on field success
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 3, 2016 14:54:49 GMT
But NH isn't spending his own personal money it's the club's money and thats clearly not unlimited? At the end of the day DC has to decide whether RG's worth whatever Cambridge niw want or whether he needs to move on to another target. Let's hope whatever's decided is done soon rather than drag over the whole of January. I'm not sure the Club actually has much of it's own money, considering our yearly debts so isn't it NH's own money at the end of the day? As far as I'm aware all NH's money is secured against the club i the form of debts or loans, he's not written off his debts/loans like Pantsdown. In addition NH hasn't put any of his own money in for over 12 months, the only recent additional finance as come from the MSP loan which is secured against the Mem. Unless NH changes track then January's transfer funds will have come from what's either left of the loan, this season's gate takings or, hopefully not, the sale of one of our players.
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Post by baggins on Jan 3, 2016 15:03:42 GMT
I'm not sure the Club actually has much of it's own money, considering our yearly debts so isn't it NH's own money at the end of the day? As far as I'm aware all NH's money is secured against the club i the form of debts or loans, he's not written off his debts/loans like Pantsdown. In addition NH hasn't put any of his own money in for over 12 months, the only recent additional finance as come from the MSP loan which is secured against the Mem. Unless NH changes track then January's transfer funds will have come from what's either left of the loan, this season's gate takings or, hopefully not, the sale of one of our players. NH not put any any of his own money in within the last 12 months? I'll take your word on that.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 3, 2016 15:10:55 GMT
Where's the evidence he has put any of his own money in? If he has why where's all the MSP Loan gone?
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Post by CrispPusher on Jan 3, 2016 15:13:13 GMT
Come on Jabba make it happen! If he doesn't back Darrell on this, he may be forced back in to the costly game of appointing and sacking crap managers all too soon.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Jan 3, 2016 15:27:46 GMT
Maybe matty's leaving for a fee and that's how will fund Gaffney move. History says "yeah right".
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Post by peterpirate on Jan 3, 2016 16:40:01 GMT
Maybe matty's leaving for a fee and that's how will fund Gaffney move. History says "yeah right". what would be the point in that we're be back where we started then,better off just buying Rory the tight git Our crowds should pay for that,we will end up losing dc cause of Higgs dc isn't asking for millions he's probably saying hey nick we got a good chance of going up here a few more players could get us in that top 3 and no more players and we might scrape the play offs No brainer for me
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Post by GasAttacK on Jan 3, 2016 16:47:57 GMT
Asked Cambridge fans on the OneFootball forum what they thought the situation was:
SVH said: Gaffney was back in Cambridge last night and will report to training tomorrow.
It would appear with don't have another striker lined up so Gaffney could get a start on Saturday away to Crawley but Shaun Derry will need to build bridges and quick with Gaffney. He may also have to swallow some pride and admit he may have got it wrong with Gaffney.
Unless you pay what we're asking, Gaffney will be with us until the end of the season.
AtaturkOzgutson said: From our side the view is that it's baffling we've had a player on our books for a year, nursed him back, and then had several good performances from him*...only to loan him to a 'play-off rival' (I use this term loosely for us) when we have no-one to replace him with.
It's daft that it's got to this stage, but he should stay and play for us IMO, unless we can swap Carr/Slew for a half decent striker.
It's essentially in everyone's interest but ours to get this sorted how Rory / Rovers prefer, it would appear. If Derry did bin him with barely a look, then I'm worried for his judgement. It did initially sound as though it was fitness loan, so I'm more hopeful that's the route we'll go down. Either way, it's a bit odd to ship out someone who is scoring goals at this level when we only have one decent out and out striker.
*I think he's played 6 times for Cambridge and had a hand in four goals, so it's not as if he was any different here.
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Post by peterpirate on Jan 3, 2016 16:55:59 GMT
Maybe a bit controversial but why don't the fans that; I) go to the Welly ii) buy on line merchandise from individuals iii) have bought on line books (print that season is an exception as x% of the sales in the club shop, I believe actually go to the club) iv) gave money to Wembley hawkers V) made profits on selling fanzines vi) paid a fiver to the steward who a few years ago let them in without paying the entrance money etc ask any of the companies/individuals that have made money out of the Gas if they would like to contribute to Rory's fee,wages etc. I would guess in the last year well over £150k has been spent by Rovers fans on the back of Rovers success to these people with little (or none!) going to the club! People moan about past players ripping off the club but even some of our own fans are doing it - no excuses, its a disgrace! ps, for crowd funding see the Share scheme - doesn't 20% go on signings. The last one ones I can remember were Rhys Evans & Steve Books wages. SC over to you. get promoting it and let's get some money raised for Rory the money wouldn't of gone on the team anyway,when has it?
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jan 3, 2016 16:56:41 GMT
Asked Cambridge fans on the OneFootball forum what they thought the situation was: SVH said: Gaffney was back in Cambridge last night and will report to training tomorrow. It would appear with don't have another striker lined up so Gaffney could get a start on Saturday away to Crawley but Shaun Derry will need to build bridges and quick with Gaffney. He may also have to swallow some pride and admit he may have got it wrong with Gaffney. Unless you pay what we're asking, Gaffney will be with us until the end of the season. AtaturkOzgutson said: From our side the view is that it's baffling we've had a player on our books for a year, nursed him back, and then had several good performances from him*...only to loan him to a 'play-off rival' (I use this term loosely for us) when we have no-one to replace him with. It's daft that it's got to this stage, but he should stay and play for us IMO, unless we can swap Carr/Slew for a half decent striker. It's essentially in everyone's interest but ours to get this sorted how Rory / Rovers prefer, it would appear. If Derry did bin him with barely a look, then I'm worried for his judgement. It did initially sound as though it was fitness loan, so I'm more hopeful that's the route we'll go down. Either way, it's a bit odd to ship out someone who is scoring goals at this level when we only have one decent out and out striker. *I think he's played 6 times for Cambridge and had a hand in four goals, so it's not as if he was any different here. Problem is he has now tasted something better and he will never be as good for cufc as he was for us cos his heart won't be in it, also only has to wait 6 months before he'll be back here. A player who doesn't want to play for you has already gone, remember o'toole last few months of the relegation season.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 3, 2016 17:08:24 GMT
Asked Cambridge fans on the OneFootball forum what they thought the situation was: SVH said: Gaffney was back in Cambridge last night and will report to training tomorrow. It would appear with don't have another striker lined up so Gaffney could get a start on Saturday away to Crawley but Shaun Derry will need to build bridges and quick with Gaffney. He may also have to swallow some pride and admit he may have got it wrong with Gaffney. Unless you pay what we're asking, Gaffney will be with us until the end of the season. AtaturkOzgutson said: From our side the view is that it's baffling we've had a player on our books for a year, nursed him back, and then had several good performances from him*...only to loan him to a 'play-off rival' (I use this term loosely for us) when we have no-one to replace him with. It's daft that it's got to this stage, but he should stay and play for us IMO, unless we can swap Carr/Slew for a half decent striker. It's essentially in everyone's interest but ours to get this sorted how Rory / Rovers prefer, it would appear. If Derry did bin him with barely a look, then I'm worried for his judgement. It did initially sound as though it was fitness loan, so I'm more hopeful that's the route we'll go down. Either way, it's a bit odd to ship out someone who is scoring goals at this level when we only have one decent out and out striker. *I think he's played 6 times for Cambridge and had a hand in four goals, so it's not as if he was any different here. I doubt we can read too much into what posters have suggested on their forum as like us they clearly don't know the full facts? I can't see Corr going anywhere in January and I imagine he's on decent money at Cambridge, so they'll need to sign a player who can play alongside him not replace him, I maybe be wrong but Gaffney seems too similar a player to play alongside Corr. So does Gaffney stay at Cambridge on the bench or move to 1st team football at Rovers?
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Post by overview on Jan 3, 2016 17:22:28 GMT
Pity Bliss didn't do better at Tranmere and Lincoln as he is still on our payroll.Sad really as he did OK pre season.Maybe we could offer Cambridge a straight swop? We had him once before- no thanks!
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Post by peterpirate on Jan 3, 2016 17:34:41 GMT
Why not he's good in the wall
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Post by overview on Jan 3, 2016 17:34:42 GMT
Cambridge fan here. A lot of stuff on our board is speculation and basically bs (like most!). Derry said today in his post match interview that Rory's loan ends today and that he will be talking to him. Reading between the lines I think we will lose him- which imo will be an effing big mistake. We signed him last January and he was injured until about September. He made his first start against Yeovil after apparently impressing so much in training he had to start- he scored two in a 3-2 win. Next game (against you I believe) he was on the bench. Money was sacked and Derry came and it appears he didn't rate Rory and shunted him out on loan to get "game time". Not sure if he now rates him because he has done so well (some of us aren't surprised) or we are just angling for a better deal. Letting him go I believe will bite us on the arse. Derry wants to shift some out and get some in, and there are a few who deserve to be shown the door but as far as I'm concerned Rory shouldn't be one of them. Players of his calibre are hard to come by. I hope he comes back, signs a new contract and helps us push on to the play-offs but I can't see it happening. Rory seems to feel loved by you and not by us (the club that is). I wouldn't blame him for wanting to be somewhere where he feels loved. Having just watched the highlights of your game against Wimbledon I'd say you're crying out for a decent centre half or two. The defending from set-pieces was shocking and led to 2 of their goals. Just my opinion of course. You aren't wrong- plus we have two very mediocre goalkeepers. Our recent form (5 W 1 D) up until yesterday although impressive on paper is deceptive- for some of those games we have been dire then managed to pop a couple of goals in and get a result. We have players who aren't getting a look in - some could do better than some currently taking the field. This coupled with Derry's seeming desire to get rid of Gaffney, who in his brief appearances gave us a glimpse of what he can and is now doing it for you, is causing some concern about his eye for a player. Similar with another Irish lad we had recently under Money, Morrissey, looked the part when he briefly played but was never really given a chance imo. And please. no more mention from anyone about White. That still hurts us!
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Post by peterpirate on Jan 3, 2016 17:36:27 GMT
Barry?
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Post by 4evergas67 on Jan 3, 2016 18:15:14 GMT
Just noticed Gaffney's profiles gone from the Cambridge website.
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