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Post by northseagas on Feb 25, 2016 7:32:50 GMT
As many rovers fans I was in favour of a new ground being built , but last night I was at the Hibs vs Morton game at Easter rd and after sampling the atmosphere (Sorry the non atmosphere )I am starting to think I would be against a new ground There was just over 8600 present last night In a ground that holds close to 20,00 Easter rd was like a library . Can't help feeling That After all the euphoria of a move to a new ground We could end up being in the same situation apart from the odd decent cup game I don't Think we would fill a big stadium week in Week out . I would rather a redeveloped packed Mem rather than sitting in a soulless bowl.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 25, 2016 7:36:43 GMT
A freezing cold Tuesday night at home to Morton , I'm surprised 8,000 bothered.
edit: sorry , a freezing cold Weds night !
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Feb 25, 2016 7:46:06 GMT
It's not just about the crowds we would get in a new stadium and if it is hallf full (or half empty depending on your outlook in life). It also generates a lot of off the field and non match day revenue which is the sort of thing that can push the club forwards.
And plus you can still generate the noise as long as the fans give the team the backing.
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Post by oddsongas on Feb 25, 2016 7:47:15 GMT
We need a new stadium to succeed. Simple. Sod this revamped mem, why is it now we have money to get a stadium no one wants it? Very strange
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 7:55:44 GMT
You have to be more optimistic. Maybe we won't get 8,000 in a 25,000 stadium. With a bit of success, and good marketing, we may get 15,000 or 18,000. Onwards and upwards.
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Post by William Wilson on Feb 25, 2016 7:59:39 GMT
It's not just about the crowds we would get in a new stadium and if it is hallf full (or half empty depending on your outlook in life). It also generates a lot of off the field and non match day revenue which is the sort of thing that can push the club forwards. And plus you can still generate the noise as long as the fans give the team the backing. It wouldn`t be half full for most games. It`d be a third full, ( or two thirds empty, depending on your outlook in life ). Northsea makes a very valid point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 8:00:08 GMT
As many rovers fans I was in favour of a new ground being built , but last night I was at the Hibs vs Morton game at Easter rd and after sampling the atmosphere (Sorry the non atmosphere )I am starting to think I would be against a new ground There was just over 8600 present last night In a ground that holds close to 20,00 Easter rd was like a library . Can't help feeling That After all the euphoria of a move to a new ground We could end up being in the same situation apart from the odd decent cup game I don't Think we would fill a big stadium week in Week out . I would rather a redeveloped packed Mem rather than sitting in a soulless bowl. Fantastic poem.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Feb 25, 2016 8:00:22 GMT
As many rovers fans I was in favour of a new ground being built , but last night I was at the Hibs vs Morton game at Easter rd and after sampling the atmosphere (Sorry the non atmosphere )I am starting to think I would be against a new ground There was just over 8600 present last night In a ground that holds close to 20,00 Easter rd was like a library . Can't help feeling That After all the euphoria of a move to a new ground We could end up being in the same situation apart from the odd decent cup game I don't Think we would fill a big stadium week in Week out . I would rather a redeveloped packed Mem rather than sitting in a soulless bowl. If Reading had stayed at Elm Park they too would be enjoying 8,000 crowds playing in the bottom two divisions, same for Swansea at the Vetch or Brighton at the Withdean. I like where the Mem is situated at the top of the Gloucester Rd and it means there is plenty to do before and after a match but the current stadium is not fit for purpose for a club that has any ambition whatsoever. If we want more people to come we have to have much better facilities, and they will come as my three examples show.
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Post by heathcombe5 on Feb 25, 2016 8:05:56 GMT
It's not just about the crowds we would get in a new stadium and if it is hallf full (or half empty depending on your outlook in life). It also generates a lot of off the field and non match day revenue which is the sort of thing that can push the club forwards. And plus you can still generate the noise as long as the fans give the team the backing. It wouldn`t be half full for most games. It`d be a third full, ( or two thirds empty, depending on your outlook in life ). Northsea makes a very valid point. Rubbish -- With a successful team on the park we would be getting 12 to 15k in a new stadium. The higher up the tables we go and so that would increase as well. Also a new ground would not just be used every other fortnight either. Think of all the other activities that would benefit us from having a new stadium as well.
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Post by oddsongas on Feb 25, 2016 8:07:51 GMT
Also you say we would still get 8k? Then we wouldn't fill a re developed mem either?
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Post by simon1883 on Feb 25, 2016 8:09:29 GMT
If we have the capacity we can offer many more incentives. Currently we are restricted due to the small size, and the need to maximize our income. With a larger stadium, we would be able to give more tickets away to local schools etc. This will then get them hooked (hopefully) and we get the repeat business....
As it stands, even if you have an U11 ST you need to book your tickets in the first season as they don't generate a significant match day income, whereas selling the ticket at full price does! This doesn't even take into account the "other" income argument...
Stadium, of increased size = MUST HAPPEN.....
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Post by mjhgas on Feb 25, 2016 8:19:19 GMT
With a negative attitude like the OP, I'm surprised we're not playing in Aisle 17 at Ikea or attacking the Fruit & Veg aisle at Tesco's!!! Let's stick with the last 30 years - they've been a roaring success! The new owners will have to come up with a few ideas to fill a new ground, but if you don't try, then we'll never know!!! If the UWE is built the usual 6,000 will have to welcome new & returning fans with open arms!
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Post by RD on Feb 25, 2016 8:21:22 GMT
It's not just about the crowds we would get in a new stadium and if it is hallf full (or half empty depending on your outlook in life). It also generates a lot of off the field and non match day revenue which is the sort of thing that can push the club forwards. And plus you can still generate the noise as long as the fans give the team the backing. It wouldn`t be half full for most games. It`d be a third full, ( or two thirds empty, depending on your outlook in life ). Northsea makes a very valid point. A valid point about the atmosphere yes. But that is all. We HAVE to have a new stadium. Simple as that. This club needs to be able to generate significant additional income and that is only possible with a new stadium. Sure we could sale some new items in the club shop etc but that will not generate us anywhere near the money we require to truly progress. I appreciate we may well be "rattling" around the stadium to start with, but that may soon change if we progress up the leagues. If we were to reach the Championship in a brand new ground, I reckon we would easily get 15k+. That wouldn't look - or sound - too bad IMO. Plus, the odd game aside, it's hardly like the Mem is the most boisterous of grounds week in, week out anyway!
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Post by Big Jock on Feb 25, 2016 8:23:53 GMT
i git yer point North Sea but wit respect yur argument fel tae pieces wen yous put Easter Road an Atmosphere in the same sentence
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Post by alvestongas on Feb 25, 2016 8:27:04 GMT
Not just have to have a new stadium - read the Times today - yes the big boys Times - Waed says again a new stadium is vital, it might be 21000 but it might be bigger.
Watch this space but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we get a Wembley of the West!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 8:37:43 GMT
As many rovers fans I was in favour of a new ground being built , but last night I was at the Hibs vs Morton game at Easter rd and after sampling the atmosphere (Sorry the non atmosphere )I am starting to think I would be against a new ground There was just over 8600 present last night In a ground that holds close to 20,00 Easter rd was like a library . Can't help feeling That After all the euphoria of a move to a new ground We could end up being in the same situation apart from the odd decent cup game I don't Think we would fill a big stadium week in Week out . I would rather a redeveloped packed Mem rather than sitting in a soulless bowl.If we redevelop the Mem, why isn't that going to be the same? You have altered your opinion based on a single match at Hibs v Morton?! Have you been to Anfield? That is soulless most of the time. A choice between redevelopment and purpose built is a simple one. Ask Steve Pantsdown.
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Post by gretschgas on Feb 25, 2016 8:37:51 GMT
I personally don't get these sorts of opinions at all. Simply we have to get a new stadium, the Mem is not good enough, end of. I've been to many an all seater stadium with electric atmospheres and also old fashioned terraced grounds with morgue-esque atmospheres. It's all about the fans inside to get it rocking, not the bricks and mortar. Gasheads will make the UWE bounce I'm sure of it.
Like someone else said just look at the Hull's, Brighton's and Swansea's of this world to see how a new stadium does attract more fans. None of them kept their modest attendances after moving in.
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Post by RD on Feb 25, 2016 8:43:03 GMT
I personally don't get these sorts of opinions at all. Simply we have to get a new stadium, the Mem is not good enough, end of. I've been to many an all seater stadium with electric atmospheres and also old fashioned terraced grounds with morgue-esque atmospheres. It's all about the fans inside to get it rocking, not the bricks and mortar. Gasheads will make the UWE bounce I'm sure of it. Like someone else said just look at the Hull's, Brighton's and Swansea's of this world to see how a new stadium does attract more fans. None of them kept their modest attendances after moving in. Great post
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Post by xplosivgas on Feb 25, 2016 8:44:17 GMT
Not just have to have a new stadium - read the Times today - yes the big boys Times - Waed says again a new stadium is vital, it might be 21000 but it might be bigger. Watch this space but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we get a Wembley of the West! I see the article in the times but you need a subscription to read the full piece! Anyone able to paste it here? Looks interesting....
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 25, 2016 8:44:49 GMT
Why not see if Bath City will let us share Twerton again as the atmosphere was even better there? Time moves on and we have to also move on or get left behind, whilst the atmosphere may be different hopefully we won't have to suffer Accrington on a cold Tueday night for much longer.
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