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Post by costahotshot on Feb 25, 2016 8:44:54 GMT
A new stadium is crucial if we want to move forward, it might not be more than half full initially, but it will give us scope to launch different initiatives to attract the youngsters into the club and increase our already amazing fan base
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 9:12:41 GMT
Southampton.
Millwall.
Cardiff.
Arsenal.
Sunderland.
Forest Green Rovers!
West Ham soon.
All new grounds, all higher attendances.
The atmosphere is largely to do with on the field.
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Post by slam on Feb 25, 2016 9:36:44 GMT
In the modern day it is absolutely imperative for a club to show ambition if it is to succeed and move forward. A new stadium is an absolutely vital part of that equation.
A new stadium (associated with a sensible use of the facility to generate non-football related revenue) will create a level of stability that we have not enjoyed over the past 20-25 years of our nomadic existence. Not only that but the current facilities at the Mem would not, in my opinion, support any ambition of progressing any further than League 1.
But a new stadium will also attract people to the club. On the field, a new stadium will attract a wider group of future players who will hopefully create a better standard of football. It will also attract a wider fanbase able to enjoy the match in more comfortable surroundings. The progression will spiral.
However, it is not an overnight thing. In the short term there will be empty seats, and we will definitely not be able to fill the ground week in week out for a long time to come. However, that is where our part in this revival is important. It is our responsibility to generate the atmosphere at the club when the stadium may be less than half full. It is our job to ensure that the OPs experience of Wednesday night is not repeated at Bristol Rovers, regardless of the attendance on the night.
We have a part to play in this too.
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Post by oldgas on Feb 25, 2016 9:51:58 GMT
A new stadium is vital to the future of our club in so many ways.
People have mentioned the many additional income streams that can be generated every day, as well as evening concerts etc, an on site shop to service the UWE community.
It has been documented many times how large our existing, "sleeping" fan base is. There is a golden opportunity to tap into the burgeoning new resident population as the old airfields site is developed, to say nothing of the captive resident student population which must number several thousand. They are also adding an extra couple of tracks to the railway service with a station (Abbeywood) within a few hundred yards of the new stadium site. That means additional rail services which means the ground would be in easy reach of large population centres like Yate, Chipping Sodbury and towns to the north.
We have to grasp this once in a lifetime golden opportunity to expand. We have endured so many false dawns, probably more than any other club in the country. We have an opportunity to escape the dead hand of BCC and all the south east NIMBYs who have invaded and colonised whole swathes of the city with their "OK yah, right- on" change nothings defy progress attitudes.
It would really grip me if I had to endure the thought of thousands of people by-passing the site on their way to the Trashton open sewer to watch that Sh1t.
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Post by philbemmygas on Feb 25, 2016 11:16:13 GMT
Southampton. Millwall. Cardiff. Arsenal. Sunderland. Forest Green Rovers! West Ham soon. All new grounds, all higher attendances. The atmosphere is largely to do with on the field. Simon, you were doing really well until you mentioned your old team. Alas in the rugby supporting area of Stroud they will never attract much in the way of crowds, sooner Stale Minces ex bankrupts him the better. See you soon  |
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Post by gaslife on Feb 25, 2016 12:20:05 GMT
This club, more than any other, desperately needs a fresh new start.
New owners, new directors, new stadium and at least 5k new supporters untainted by a miserable recent past.
The sooner the old rugby ground in Horfield is bulldozed, turned into housing, the better.
UTG!
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Post by gaslife on Feb 25, 2016 12:24:12 GMT
Southampton. Millwall. Cardiff. Arsenal. Sunderland. Forest Green Rovers! West Ham soon. All new grounds, all higher attendances. The atmosphere is largely to do with on the field. Reading have done OK since the excellent Madjeski Stad was built. Anyone remember Elm Park? |
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Post by alvestongas on Feb 25, 2016 12:53:54 GMT
Southampton. Millwall. Cardiff. Arsenal. Sunderland. Forest Green Rovers! West Ham soon. All new grounds, all higher attendances. The atmosphere is largely to do with on the field. Reading have done OK since the excellent Madjeski Stad was built. Anyone remember Elm Park? I do remember Elm Park - a complete sh** hole - even more so The Vetch Field, Swansea - bogs were a danger to life and you got served burgers through a mesh fence. Pubs before the game boarded up & that all to recently as well. The list goes on.... |
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Post by gashead99 on Feb 25, 2016 13:07:48 GMT
Swansea averaged around 8,000 in their last season at the Vetch - the year they got promoted to league one. First season at the Liberty the average was 14,000. Promotion didn't bring 6,000 new fans, the better facilities did. A new ground for us will do the same. My guess is that 75% capacity is achievable as an average.
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Post by knowall on Feb 25, 2016 13:09:14 GMT
There is no way we can realise the potential of Rovers at the Mem - supporters nowadays come from miles around and one ingredient for a full house is missing - parking! - the reason why Cribbs beats Cabot etc etc
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Post by banjoflyer on Feb 25, 2016 13:16:03 GMT
There is no way we can realise the potential of Rovers at the Mem - supporters nowadays come from miles around and one ingredient for a full house is missing - parking! - the reason why Cribbs beats Cabot etc etc There is a second ingrediant...........staying dry in the rain, and many more |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 25, 2016 13:19:24 GMT
There is no way we can realise the potential of Rovers at the Mem - supporters nowadays come from miles around and one ingredient for a full house is missing - parking! - the reason why Cribbs beats Cabot etc etc Think it's more than just decent parking putting people off, Saturday was a perfect example of open terracing putting fans off, mot too mention shocking toilets, poor food outlets etc, plus licensing laws at the Mem mean it will never be a 24/7 ground now required. |
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Post by barumgas on Feb 25, 2016 14:49:36 GMT
The new owners are businessmen and realise a new ground is imperative. Every interview given has included an acknowledgment of this requirement
What's more the Mem is a prime piece of real estate which will go a long way in helping financing the new stadium
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Post by lpgas on Feb 25, 2016 15:39:12 GMT
Bradford City have a scheme where the more season tickets they sell the cheaper they are, they had 12000 the first year they did this scheme
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Post by garystash on Feb 25, 2016 15:41:56 GMT
There is no way we can realise the potential of Rovers at the Mem - supporters nowadays come from miles around and one ingredient for a full house is missing - parking! - the reason why Cribbs beats Cabot etc etc Think it's more than just decent parking putting people off, Saturday was a perfect example of open terracing putting fans off, mot too mention shocking toilets, poor food outlets etc, plus licensing laws at the Mem mean it will never be a 24/7 ground now required. It's not just on the terraces - I was in the East Stand, which I think is ironically sponsored by Dri Build because I got effing soaked! |
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Post by nolongernonleaguegas on Feb 25, 2016 15:47:13 GMT
Nice 18,000 all seater will do me!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 16:00:39 GMT
There's a great graph somewhere on the web displaying 'new ground bounce'. For most of these teams, new fans seemed to come out of nowhere = revenue = success = more fans. Happened for a number of clubs. I love the Mem, but I could see why potential fans wouldnt love it. We have a huge catchment area, let's not forget that  |
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Post by curlywurly on Feb 25, 2016 16:33:20 GMT
I'm doing some research to investigate the impact that a new stadium has on attendances. I have most of the data complete, with only a few more to add.
For each club that moved into a new stadium, I looked at the attendances for the 5 years before and the five years after the move to the new stadium. The results would definitely seem to back the build it and they will come argument, although there are a very few exceptions to the rule.
Based on 5 years before and 5 years after, the average increase in attendance was a staggering 98.8%, i.e. on average crowds nearly doubled after moving to a new stadium. In most cases, this was also accompanied with an improved league position.
I'm not suggesting that the move to a new stadium is necessarily the cause of improved league position, indeed the few teams that saw more disappointing increases in attendance also suffered a drop in league position. However, most of these have since recovered, in both attendance and league position, e.g. Stoke actually dropped by 5% in attendances for the 5 years following their move in 1997 and relegation, but have now added a further 94% to the 1997-2002 attendances and are well established in the Premier League.
I'll finish the data gathering and analysis and feed back, but it would seem clear to me that there are significant benefits in moving to a new stadium.
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Post by aghast on Feb 25, 2016 21:38:24 GMT
Posted on alghad.com, and translated by my good friend Google Translate:
"Certainly we intend to build a new stadium, but we can not do anything before knowing the court's decision in this cooperation between the two parties to the conflict."
Not sure he's specifically stated that on interviews in the UK. Perhaps it's not surprising, but who knows when the decision will be? If the build doesn't start very soon, it won't be ready for 2017-18.
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Post by Gashead73 on Feb 26, 2016 9:11:32 GMT
But the one joy that I take from this is that after 30 years of a nomadic existence I will see a brand new permanent home for BRFC in the next few years.
My son will watch the Rovers in the future with Eastville, Twerton and the Mem has just something 'the old man used to talk about'!
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