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Post by jozer on Sept 1, 2014 8:20:43 GMT
C'mon Brian. All I ask is that you present the facts about what KS is supposed to have said that justified his being banned from the Mem', humiliated in front of other fans by being marched out during a match, and barred from attending the wake of an old friend. Then everyone can make their own minds up about it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 8:39:45 GMT
C'mon Brian. All I ask is that you present the facts about what KS is supposed to have said that justified his being banned from the Mem', humiliated in front of other fans by being marched out during a match, and barred from attending the wake of an old friend. Then everyone can make their own minds up about it. You've asked it more than once. It would be nice to allow people to make up their own mind now based on the response (or lack of it).
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Post by gasincider on Sept 1, 2014 9:03:24 GMT
Get the facts right Jozer. He was not frogmarched out at all. He was told that at the end of the game he must leave immediately and not return in future. It's another lie that KS himself has corrected in the other place. It doesn't matter how much you repeat the lie, it doesn't gain credibility.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 9:10:12 GMT
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Post by pepsi on Sept 1, 2014 9:33:00 GMT
Moderators, can you please BAN KS from posting on here. His cynical posts are best left on the other place, so we can discuss what matters on here, namely, the club and our way forward. As I said before, the ban should be lifted without the need for an apology, then the 20 or 30 who keep moaning about it might also resort to talking football. Thank god they have to return to school shortly. I doubt anyone who is at school would give 2 hoots or even know anything about the issue between Kevin spencer and our board of directors ha ha, I'm pretty confident the 20/30 folk you speak of would not be children. Unless you are saying some may be teachers???
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Post by jozer on Sept 1, 2014 10:33:27 GMT
Well I stand corrected. KS was not frogmarched out of the Mem' at half-time. Thanks for that Gasincider.
See how easy it is Brian? If someone can present me with facts I am quite happy to accept that I was mistaken.
Now that just leaves the question about the comments he supposedly made that justified the permanant ban and the barring from a friends wake. Over to you, Brian...
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Post by inee on Sept 1, 2014 11:03:04 GMT
Jozer , it's got nothing to do with any of us what Brian did in respect of ks, It's between him , the board(as was) and kevin. It's no bushiness of ours. If your that desperate for an answer why not ask brian on matchday as he's often wandering around the ground. just because he's the fans director it doesn't mean he has to get permission for every decision he makes or every sh** he takes, he's already said he voted based on what info he was given. he doesnt have to justify anything else to anyone
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 11:14:45 GMT
Brian You know in your heart that what Inee has posted is not true. You are accountable to the fans who paid for your position. As you voted for something that could effect all of us we have a right know, because this trandscends any one individual.
Can we let him answer now please, for and against has been done to death. Please?
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 1, 2014 11:33:02 GMT
This thread was originally started as part of Brian's election campaign, as far as I am concerned it has been hijacked to smear him.
1. You have choices, as Inee said approach him face to face to discuss your question. Maybe he will be able to elaborate on the decision
2. Instead of bleating on here, vote for or against him.
I have opinions on the whole subject that I will willingly discuss with you face to face, I don't need an Internet forum for that.
Phil
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 11:39:52 GMT
The stupidest part of it all is that if they just lift the ban, it all goes away. Some will hold a grudge, but 99% won't care a toss about it anymore. KS being at games or not won't effect a single thing. It only serves to make NH look spiteful. So simply put yet succinct. There are more than you maybe know, that stay away over this. There is no defending this as NH is finding out in his attempt in finding the smoking gun evidence. This is an ego issue. NH sees KS as a focus of rebellion so fears that. In truth it's about honour, integrity and truth. Sadly it seems that NH plus his Acolytes have none of those characteristics and so are finding themselves backed into a corner that they made for themselves. It's also about defending the right of free speech as I see it. Banning Kevin just made a rod for their backs. It's a crying shame that this has gone on so far now as all it needed, IMO, was a man to Man talk to sort it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 12:09:48 GMT
Just as good as you Oldie defending someone when you haven't got a clue what he's supposed to have done. KS wants to remain banned because he'd lose all his school friends from the other place otherwise. He really is not important. That said his ban should be lifted without recourse to silly apologies. Helping our club is far more important than worrying about an ex director who for some reason can't move on. Colin and Mike Turl who both put a lot into this club ( far more than KS could or did) have both moved on. Mind you, their businesses didn't go bankrupt either. Do you REALLY believe Kevin wants to remain bsnnrd, really ? His love of Rovers is no different to yours or mine. Christ, his brother was cremated to goodnight Irene and he was even banned from attending Roger Harding's wake by the ridiculously petty board. Do you think that is behaviour that behooves the board of Rovers ? It had taken a very sinister and very personal tone. One could argue that if just football related then the ban from games could be rationalised but to ban a man from a funeral , well, it sickens me and it should do you too. It is vile and awful behaviour and shows up out board in an extremely bad light. I'll leave you to form your own opinion anyway. We should all be fighting the fact that the board can act in such an awful way. It is above and beyond any reasoning.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 12:17:00 GMT
I realize Gaschat is generally a more light hearted forum for Rovers fans but I posted a copy of the letter in case some fans were doubtful whether it actually existed. Living abroad it's difficult for me to comment on matches and that's why my posts are generally concerned with club matters. I can understand some fans having difficulty in accepting that club matters are worth debating and that they wish to only talk about the team but I genuinely believe the two are completely interlinked. If the club is run in a slap dash, half hearted, couldn't care less way, which I believe it is, then that attitude will percolate down to the team. We saw it with Buckle's comments about "every department needing re-energizing" and then his frustration coming out in disdainful comments about Bristolians. We saw it with McGhee living in Brighton being chauffeured to games, bringing in his Scottish buddies and generally not taking the managers role seriously. We saw it with John Ward's pitiful situation which, given his personal circumstances, is something the club should be ashamed of. We saw it with the way the so called promising youngsters were allowed to fester and eventually left under a cloud. We saw it with the "championship quality players" who never produced the goods, the players who did not perform for Rovers now playing in the football league and the question mark about whether players like Tom Lockyer, Tom Parkes and Ollie Clarke are really developing and improving or are just adequate at a lower level. The fact is that the amateurish way in which Rovers is run as a club means that we will always underperform as a team and until the club is sorted out we will continue to languish at a level far below that which we could achieve if we were run in a businesslike way. I have never met Kevin Spencer, Milke Turl, Colin Williams or Kim Stuckey but the Rovers Agenda for Change document they produced was, in my opinion, a good basis on which to start sorting the club out. The present board have had seven years to implement an alternative to the Agenda for Change plan but as far as I can see they have done nothing except to spend Nick Higgs' money. The Kevin Spencer situation is symptomatic of the chaotic way they have run Rovers and that is why it is important. Nobody wants to take responsibility, they all blame each other, when questioned the response is always " it's our money, we do what we like, we don't have to justify it to anyone" and the last resort is to "hope" something turns up. Is it any wonder that managers, coaches and players don't perform when this is the backdrop they are operating against ? And is it any wonder that other clubs are reluctant to loan us players and players we want to bring in think twice about signing for us when they know our reputation ? Someone needs to take the bull by the horns and sort the club out now. Fantastic post. A perfect summary. Thank you for articulating it so well.
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Post by jozer on Sept 2, 2014 12:58:08 GMT
Jozer , it's got nothing to do with any of us what Brian did in respect of ks, It's between him , the board(as was) and kevin. It's no bushiness of ours. If your that desperate for an answer why not ask brian on matchday as he's often wandering around the ground. just because he's the fans director it doesn't mean he has to get permission for every decision he makes or every sh*t he takes, he's already said he voted based on what info he was given. he doesnt have to justify anything else to anyone If you really believe that what a 'Fan's Director', who's position represents £1,000,000 invested in the club by fans, does in respect of the banning of a life-long fan by the BoD he is part of is 'none of our business' then we will just have to agree to differ. If NH could clone 5,000 of you he'd be laughing. BSS comes on to this MB campaigning for re-election. He is asked about KS's ban and says "I made the decision on the facts at the time". Asked for more detail he disappears. Make your own minds up, I've gone on about it long enough. You can't educate stupid.
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Post by bs10er on Sept 2, 2014 14:44:30 GMT
As been suggested already by several posters,why not ask Brian in person on a match day? Seems the normal thing to do as he is always around the ground/bars,surely better than to keep asking on forums(with no answer) It is certainly what I would do anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 14:52:26 GMT
As been suggested already by several posters,why not ask Brian in person on a match day? Seems the normal thing to do as he is always around the ground/bars,surely better than to keep asking on forums(with no answer) It is certainly what I would do anyway. Unfortunately for reasons I wish to keep to myself I am unable to visit the bars and I never see Brian in the ground so I would prefer him to answer fans questions on this forum now that he has decided to post on here.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:04:13 GMT
I thought he was seen on the terraces too?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:15:04 GMT
I thought he was seen on the terraces too? Not in the stand then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 15:30:37 GMT
Idk.
As far as I can see, you've asked your question here.
You have stated you are unhappy with the lack of reply on here also.
The bars are unsuitable.
Have you tried Twitter, email or a letter?
As others have said, Brian seems to feel he has answered this question. He said he voted for the ban based on what he was told.
He says it's regrettable and that he hopes NH and KS get it sorted.
I've allowed a lot on this thread because I understand there are a lot of strong emotions. (not necessarily yourself) but BSS is a member of this forum like any other and as such deserves to not be hounded over this single issue.
I have laid out clearly in this thread in simple terms the question and that people can draw their own conclusions from the answer he may give or lack of.
I personally consider this question to be well covered and would politely ask members to now wait for the answer.
All other issues and questions can still be raised and debated here as usual.
Many thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 16:41:34 GMT
Have they had the election yet ?
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Sept 2, 2014 17:02:17 GMT
Have they had the election yet ? 25th September i believe Dins.
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