B.R.E.X.I.T........implications.

Postal vote time for me now.

Really still unsure about how I should vote.

Interestingly Ireland & Spain are presently the  the top two highest growing economies in the EU so I guess you could say the EU helped them survive/now prosper, although Greece seems a basket case but that may have always happened anyway outside of the EU? Portugal & Italy a bit like the UK just seem to plodding on. I haven't seen any real evidence that the UK economy will propser any better o/s of the EU.  

Unlimited immigration is preferred by large business ,it allows low wages to thrive. It's been the reason for encouraging immigration forever.

The low class labourers were essentially slaves in the past . The black death plague changed that. The reduction in scum class meant the wealthy didn't have enough people to do their menial jobs. For the first time the poor could demand more or upsticks and go work for somebody who would pay more.
There is no coincidence that with birth rates dropping amongst "white" western europeans new lower class people are required or those on the low wages will be able to demand more money.

Leaving the EU could make the poorest workers better off.

On the other hand the business community may try hard to erode workers rights and safety laws. This will be ok if we have a fair government but if we have a government financed by big business we are screwed. 60 hour weeks before overtime anyone ?

Leaving the EU could make the poorest workers worse off.

EU environmental laws have certainly helped our British environment ,our beaches are far cleaner than they were a few decades ago for one.

My view...I would prefer a fusion. EU countries controlling their own borders and immigration and the rules governing businesses operating in that country. I would still like the combined overview of worker protection ,environmental laws and collective cooperation to help raise the standards of living in all European countries.
Turkey and Israel are not in Europe and should not be encouraged to be so. They need to lead their own group of countries with similar regional needs and beliefs and outlooks.

All I would say, ( as an unskilled forklift driver for Asda ) is that the relentless procession of immigrants from Eastern Europe, has led to the bosses having the confidence to impose the worst working conditions that I`ve seen since I left school in 1975. Nothing else comes close.   400 people work at the Asda distribution centre in Avonmouth.  The bosses could get rid of them all, and replace them ten times over with cheap foreign labour.  And they act accordingly.  
Voting "out" may be a leap in the dark, but I`ll be *ed if I vote to carry on with things as they are.

I'm no liar or scaremonger , i bought up in one of these threads (a long while back the points of the eu mirroring some of the third reich's policies on europe, these are not exaggerations but existed back then and exist now, but because the name hitler is used everybody seems to go on shutdown and shout racist or antisemitic etc.  Where instead they maybe should do a little research look at some of hitler's land and worker resettlement plans (now called eu migration) and its almost the same.

An awful lot of companies that funded the third reich are still around now and doing very well, The real problem with boris is that he jumped on this and in doing so came across wrong, all he had to do was read up on it, before opening his trap.


free entry to evil Eastern European criminals this happens as well you cant deny it it's well documented ,it's well known but we choose to do nothing about it as the EU will not allow it.   but it's also criminals from other countries that are over here. one example is a torturer living in bristol who was a state police enforcer in his own country came her claimed that he would be killed back home so is allowed to stay.

What really gets on my tits these days is crime cannot be reported factually as it's no longer allowed to group crimes by the type of person committing them, just another way to pretend immigration works and is very rosy in this country, if only we had an immigration policy like that of australia, then things would be a lot better.

Be wary of the yank press as it's more restricted than ours, take 911 as an example a well known american activist had to keep looking online to the uk as the media reports were more accurate than the yank ones.

You are correct no one knows what will happen either way, however this country has survived for a long time on its own and also as a union, but has been weakened since joining the EU . look back to things like the frogs blockading british goods at the ports years back. we didn't crumble go to war or die did we.

For me i want out, just think of what this country could do with the millions a day we give to europe, kin hell we could build enough council homes country wide in very short order to completely obliviate homelessness, but no lets continue to spunk money against the wall to europe as lets face it who gives a f**k about the people on the streets many of whom have fought for this country only to be sh** on on discharge and left to fend for themselves, but most dont realise and just see homeless people as druggie wasters, we are all only a few months from being homeless if life takes a sh** on you.

Actually, f**k it I'm going to say it. This whole referendum has some very dark racist undertones in my opinion. At the beginning I didn't really care to be honest but the more I read and hear the more I realise that it's about elitism and entitlement. How boringly predictable from the British. I am genuinely worried that they might actually be stupid enough to actually vote to leave because the general public are largely semi-retarded gullible fascists. We don't trust Europe but we sure as hell lap up some xenophobic propaganda.