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Post by Big Jock on May 22, 2016 17:14:18 GMT
At least wees al arguing again We got r Rovers back, We got r Rovers back..........
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 22, 2016 17:46:18 GMT
The main points buried in this thread seem to be (1) the old board took no notice of supporters; (2) the new board seem to be taking no notice of supporters. No change then - except more money, prospect of a new stadium & progress on the pitch. Hmmm....think I can live with that! Heh heh. I like your thinking. However, I can't live with that. I don't want to find my club in the conference in 10yrs time and wish then that I had made sure our board had been held accountable to someone. WAQ seems like a genuinely nice guy but no real progress has been made yet. And if it is indeed the case that BSS and the SC are being frozen out then that's a damn shame.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on May 22, 2016 18:05:34 GMT
Genuine question; Why does anyone join the supporters club ? Cheap away travel Priority on tickets Discounts on items in shop A sense that you have helped the club in a small way (joining fee) I think it's good for kids to be members as it gives them a sense of "belonging" Genuinely didn't know you got a shop discount.
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 22, 2016 18:08:33 GMT
I don't think any new board anywhere has ever taken over a club that went on to win promotion within three months before. To that extent the new owners have been very lucky, although it could be argued that the stability created off the field was a contributory factor. From here on in things get a little more tricky for them, as much as wael wants to play down his wealth we all know they are in a different league to higgs and co and if we aren't competitive in the market this summer and the uwe isnt started by xmas the first rumbles of discontent will start.
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Post by CheshireGas on May 22, 2016 18:47:52 GMT
The main points buried in this thread seem to be (1) the old board took no notice of supporters; (2) the new board seem to be taking no notice of supporters. No change then - except more money, prospect of a new stadium & progress on the pitch. Hmmm....think I can live with that! Heh heh. I like your thinking. However, I can't live with that. I don't want to find my club in the conference in 10yrs time and wish then that I had made sure our board had been held accountable to someone. WAQ seems like a genuinely nice guy but no real progress has been made yet. And if it is indeed the case that BSS and the SC are being frozen out then that's a damn shame.It would be a damn shame IF the supporter directors are frozen out and there is no supporter representation at all. However the current board have responded to some requests and issues. I presume it is the way supporters go about it. Mind you if they get rid of the supporters directors perhaps they will buy back the share scheme shares. I wonder what the rules are in the agreement (if it still exists) about share buy backs. What would the scheme do with £1million....
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Post by warehamgas on May 22, 2016 18:53:06 GMT
I don't think any new board anywhere has ever taken over a club that went on to win promotion within three months before. To that extent the new owners have been very lucky, although it could be argued that the stability created off the field was a contributory factor. From here on in things get a little more tricky for them, as much as wael wants to play down his wealth we all know they are in a different league to higgs and co and if we aren't competitive in the market this summer and the uwe isnt started by xmas the first rumbles of discontent will start. Northampton Town FC 2015/16. But I agree with the last point. BoDs biggest problem will be managing fans expectations. UTG!
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Post by bluegas on May 22, 2016 18:57:25 GMT
The main points buried in this thread seem to be (1) the old board took no notice of supporters; (2) the new board seem to be taking no notice of supporters. No change then - except more money, prospect of a new stadium & progress on the pitch. Hmmm....think I can live with that! Heh heh. I like your thinking. However, I can't live with that. I don't want to find my club in the conference in 10yrs time and wish then that I had made sure our board had been held accountable to someone. WAQ seems like a genuinely nice guy but no real progress has been made yet. And if it is indeed the case that BSS and the SC are being frozen out then that's a damn shame. OK, great. So you're for setting up a supporters' trust or similar to hold the board accountable? Been there, done that, underwhelmed with the indifference. Anyway, in 45 years of football supporting I've never known boards be accountable. They run clubs, fans vote with their feet. Simples.
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Post by Langford Gas on May 22, 2016 19:10:16 GMT
Cheap away travel Priority on tickets Discounts on items in shop A sense that you have helped the club in a small way (joining fee) I think it's good for kids to be members as it gives them a sense of "belonging" Genuinely didn't know you got a shop discount. Really get the kids thing, but isn't that Young Pirates or is it the same thing as the supporters club ? Scary thing is as a supporter of 50 + years i genuinely know longer have any idea what the supporters club is all about, doesn't that speak volumes about their PR ? I realise back in the day s of Eastville they paid for floodlights etc and they were invaluable to the club not so sure in todays game what they can achieve to be honest
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 22, 2016 19:10:31 GMT
Heh heh. I like your thinking. However, I can't live with that. I don't want to find my club in the conference in 10yrs time and wish then that I had made sure our board had been held accountable to someone. WAQ seems like a genuinely nice guy but no real progress has been made yet. And if it is indeed the case that BSS and the SC are being frozen out then that's a damn shame. OK, great. So you're for setting up a supporters' trust or similar to hold the board accountable? Been there, done that, underwhelmed with the indifference. Anyway, in 45 years of football supporting I've never known boards be accountable. They run clubs, fans vote with their feet. Simples. Nope. I'm just not 'for' throwing a hissy fit because JC has dared to be critical regardless if I agree or not and ifbits long overdue or not. I do my bit here.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 22, 2016 19:39:05 GMT
We are in uncharted waters. There is a possibility that we could move from being the 'Family Club' ragbag outfit to a well-funded professionally run club. Change can not only bring benefits but also upset. I think we're seeing some of this with the SC. An open bus tour may have been a bit much for securing third place, but we do not enjoy promotion that often, especially in successive seasons. Perhaps a celebration at the Mem with players mingling and signing autographs; with the bar open showing a rerun of the match on screens could have been organised with a little creative thinking. Everything in the garden appears to be hunky dory, and will continue to do so for a while. However life teaches that uncharted waters can become choppy. Will we then tolerate the new regime as much? Businessmen have bought us. Until a few months ago we'd never heard of them. It could have been Gillingham. There is no deep seated lifelong love of Bristol Rovers. The new stadium development will be an opportunity to make money.....that's what businessmen do. Steve Hamer has, amongst other things, a background in the media. He knows what to say and how to say it. Those at Swansea tell conflicting stories of his time there.. I had little time for NH, but in one way what he said to JC rang true in that the new owners, apart from bringing a positive feel, had little impact on the playing side. That was down to DC and the players..... and us fans!Don't get me wrong, I'm excited by what the future MIGHT hold for us. But don't let's get carried away... ....and stay vigilant. But why were as fans so positive? Purely due to the fact NH had at last departed! As far as the new owners having little impact on the players lister to Marcus Stewart's latest interview on the iPlayer and he makes some interesting comments about SH being shocked about players not having food to eat following training sessions, which not only helped with nutrition but also player bonding, he also arranged further over night stays, that's just two issues he highlighted. Let's not forget the club was in a shocking state under NH and we would have probably been lucky to make the Play Offs if he'd remainded in charge, and most likely we would all now be wonder if we could survive the summer without going bust!
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Post by aghast on May 22, 2016 19:57:48 GMT
We should keep a tally of what the new owners have done.
New scoreboard Improved Ladies' powder room Painted the bar Food after training
Any more?
Small steps. Very small steps. What is going on in the background is a mystery. It might be great. It might not. I'd like to know, but I can live with it for now, since I appreciate multi-million pound deals, if they exist, are normally confidential until agreed.
I'm hoping Wael has a lot of good news waiting to explode into the open. He has keep it under control for now, so I like to think of him as the Dutch boy with his finger in the dyke.
Which he might not fully appreciate.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 22, 2016 21:37:34 GMT
Paid off the wonga loan/seemingly cleared all our debts Lifted KS's ban Beambacks for every sold out away game Rumoured to have given Errea the boot Kept season tickets prices reasonable Lifted KS's ban
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Post by chippenhamgas on May 22, 2016 21:40:29 GMT
The long and the short of it is if progress with the stadium doesn't happen in the next 6 months then questions will start to be asked, especially if uwe ends up not happening and we have to start looking for another site which we all know in Bristol will take at least five years to get to a building situation. Undercarriage and landing light talk just won't cut it then!
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Post by bluegas on May 22, 2016 21:48:35 GMT
OK, great. So you're for setting up a supporters' trust or similar to hold the board accountable? Been there, done that, underwhelmed with the indifference. Anyway, in 45 years of football supporting I've never known boards be accountable. They run clubs, fans vote with their feet. Simples. Nope. I'm just not 'for' throwing a hissy fit because JC has dared to be critical regardless if I agree or not and ifbits long overdue or not. I do my bit here. Can I be clear? I don't really give a toss what JC says. That's his prerogative. If he's unhappy though he's in a pretty small minority. And please excuse me for commenting that your bit on here is hardly likely to change much.
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Post by bluegas on May 22, 2016 21:56:35 GMT
The long and the short of it is if progress with the stadium doesn't happen in the next 6 months then questions will start to be asked, especially if uwe ends up not happening and we have to start looking for another site which we all know in Bristol will take at least five years to get to a building situation. Undercarriage and landing light talk just won't cut it then! Right on bro - I'm disgusted they haven't worked wonders & sh** miracles after all this time!!!! But, er, how do you know it isn't nearly all cut & dried? Maybe we now got owners who crow over an achievement, not before it's been done.
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Post by syg on May 22, 2016 22:00:17 GMT
We should keep a tally of what the new owners have done. New scoreboard Improved Ladies' powder room Painted the bar Food after training Any more? Small steps. Very small steps. What is going on in the background is a mystery. It might be great. It might not. I'd like to know, but I can live with it for now, since I appreciate multi-million pound deals, if they exist, are normally confidential until agreed. I'm hoping Wael has a lot of good news waiting to explode into the open. He has keep it under control for now, so I like to think of him as the Dutch boy with his finger in the dyke. Which he might not fully appreciate. Getting to know staff. Interviews. Settling in. Employing various professionals, stadium, pr, legal and analyst related. Meetings with regards financies, visting other stadia, mk dons for certain. I would say that they have been very busy and its only a few months. I will be concerned if we have no stadium news pre season, and very concerned if we sell/release players and dont appear to have replaced adequately
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 22:13:21 GMT
Paid off the wonga loan/seemingly cleared all our debts Lifted KS's ban Beambacks for every sold out away game Rumoured to have given Errea the boot Kept season tickets prices reasonable Lifted KS's ban "Retired" Watola.
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Post by syg on May 22, 2016 22:19:07 GMT
Players having overnight stays.
Marcus stewart mentioned that loads of little things had changed, my feeling listening to him was that it had probably given us another point or so, thus it could be argued the change in both day to day running and feel good got us up automatically
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 23, 2016 5:15:58 GMT
Nope. I'm just not 'for' throwing a hissy fit because JC has dared to be critical regardless if I agree or not and ifbits long overdue or not. I do my bit here. Can I be clear? I don't really give a toss what JC says. That's his prerogative. If he's unhappy though he's in a pretty small minority. And please excuse me for commenting that your bit on here is hardly likely to change much. Thanks.
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Post by Okebournegas on May 23, 2016 7:15:29 GMT
Hugo out !
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