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Post by Topper Gas on May 21, 2016 21:35:04 GMT
Perhaps the new owners are asking the same question most of us have asked over the years, what the hell does Ken Masters do to warrant a free seat in Box 1??
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Post by markczgas on May 21, 2016 21:38:18 GMT
I don't think any SC and fanbase should behave like lapdogs to a chairman and Board of directors - there should be an avenue available to raise issues, complain etc. But, in recent years it seems to me and many that the influence of SC and the general fanbase was frowned upon - WE supporters were regarded with contempt - ASTONISHING ! However, the SC, in my view, is filled with people who have probably been around for decades - I hope that some younger supporters (in this time of positivity) - under 50 !! can get involved - offer their talents and energy and get involved. The SC Directors - should also graciously step down and the new owners /directors should invite new people to stand - and listen to them through various committee/structures- and keep the fanbase abreast of what is going on ! Jim Chappell et al, Ken Masters and BBS PLEASE STEP DOWN !!! This from a guy who wanted fans to stay away in protest No regrets mate ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) - Rovers was being run into oblivion. Are you worried you are losing your position of influence around the place now ?
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Post by althepirate on May 21, 2016 22:00:37 GMT
Well I love the fact we didn't have an open top bus tour so that the players and management could go back to their families forget Bristol Rovers and enjoy a well earned rest as soon as possible.Does he expect Lee Brown to be there on the bus to wave at him instead of being with his family to await the birth of the new child? They all deserve so much thanks from us for their fantastic efforts for the last two seasons and we seem a more united club from top to bottom since Wael bought the club than any other time in my 61 years of being a supporter. I now question if those with the OP's attitude should be anywhere near the decision making as their attitude seems one of total negativity. Just because people give their time freely it doesn't mean they are having a positive affect on the club. I am grateful to the OP for exposing the type of attitude he has employed working away in the background for many years. It has been an attitude that has created very little for us and would have continued to do so if the new owners hadn't come in. Thankfully we all have a right to express ourselves too as an ordinary fan not connected to any particular group. I am confident the new positive attitude in the club will overcome the old negativity that has been festering away in the background for years. For once we have a chance to succeed lets all work TOGETHER to achieve that. C'mon Rovers c'mon you blues. Well, what an ungrateful, patronising person you are. The next time you go through the turnstiles,buy a 50/50 ticket,pop into the supporters hut or buy a programme just remind yourself who is serving you and how they give/gave their free time to Rovers. These people have done this for years when the club were on its knees and to think they were helping some of the convinent memory loss brigade in this thread must make their blood boil,if unfortunate enough to read the trash on here. A simple question for you.. The new positive attitude the club now has which you are confident will overcome the old negativity,would you be so confident if the new owners didn't have a money tree in their back garden? Thought not. Name calling of the school playground variety just goes to show what has been happening behind the scenes, I wouldn't lower myself to this level. The small minded are being flushed out at last. Your question is so simple to answer. Of course money alone does not bring success, do you think we will get far without it?
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Post by Langford Gas on May 22, 2016 6:40:36 GMT
I can sense battle lines being drawn up over our new chairperson.... much like it was with NH and GD Nothing changes....... I think though there is one big difference that we seem to overlook NH and GD effectively owned the club, SH is an employee and if he cocks up he's gone
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 6:44:56 GMT
Well, what an ungrateful, patronising person you are. The next time you go through the turnstiles,buy a 50/50 ticket,pop into the supporters hut or buy a programme just remind yourself who is serving you and how they give/gave their free time to Rovers. These people have done this for years when the club were on its knees and to think they were helping some of the convinent memory loss brigade in this thread must make their blood boil,if unfortunate enough to read the trash on here. A simple question for you.. The new positive attitude the club now has which you are confident will overcome the old negativity,would you be so confident if the new owners didn't have a money tree in their back garden? Thought not. Name calling of the school playground variety just goes to show what has been happening behind the scenes, I wouldn't lower myself to this level. The small minded are being flushed out at last. Your question is so simple to answer. Of course money alone does not bring success, do you think we will get far without it? Name calling? But never mind my question,think about the the first sentence and first go two lines of the second. You are old enough to know the good the supporters club have been to Rovers over the years and still are. That includes the people's scapegoat who runs it. It's an old fashioned supporters club where the 'supporters supported the club'!! Todays supporter demands more of that!! They want a say on much,much more. Rightly or wrongly. Times have changed and the supporters club may well be outdated but they still provided to Rovers when needed. Obviously not now so much as we are lucky enough to have someone in charge who has money and passion and wants to take the club places. But this isn't about the 'supporters club' as such. It's about the two seats on the board which were bought by supporters through the share scheme which were/are obviously worth nothing in the boardroom from a very early stage,but the money was! To me these are two separate issues. And on a side note, If anyone needed telling then BSS said all what was needed to know about his position when Higgs went. JC does plenty behind the scenes and gets crucified on here whilst BSS gets a couple of televisions and some new portaloos behind the blackthorn end! Who has the free ride?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 6:47:13 GMT
I can sense battle lines being drawn up over our new chairperson.... much like it was with NH and GD Nothing changes....... Well that was proberly because Dunford brought Higgs onboard then screwed him over. Allegedly.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 22, 2016 7:15:31 GMT
Name calling of the school playground variety just goes to show what has been happening behind the scenes, I wouldn't lower myself to this level. The small minded are being flushed out at last. Your question is so simple to answer. Of course money alone does not bring success, do you think we will get far without it? Name calling? But never mind my question,think about the the first sentence and first go two lines of the second. You are old enough to know the good the supporters club have been to Rovers over the years and still are. That includes the people's scapegoat who runs it. It's an old fashioned supporters club where the 'supporters supported the club'!! Todays supporter demands more of that!! They want a say on much,much more. Rightly or wrongly. Times have changed and the supporters club may well be outdated but they still provided to Rovers when needed. Obviously not now so much as we are lucky enough to have someone in charge who has money and passion and wants to take the club places. But this isn't about the 'supporters club' as such. It's about the two seats on the board which were bought by supporters through the share scheme which were/are obviously worth nothing in the boardroom from a very early stage,but the money was! To me these are two spectate issues. And on a side note, If anyone needed telling then BSS said all what was needed to know about his position when Higgs went. JC does plenty behind the scenes and gets crucified on here whilst BSS gets a couple of televisions and some new portaloos behind the blackthorn end! Who has the free ride? Think your overlooking one important point that BBS was highly critical recently of NH's period in charge, JC taken the opposite approach by seemingly praising NH for his team winning promotion, whilst having various digs at the new owners. I think the majority of fans see NH's period in charge one of the worse in our history but Wael potentially the best thing to ever happen to the club, if he does delivery the UWE & a training ground he's promised, so it's a bizarre approach for the Chairman of the group which represents the fans to now take.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 7:22:53 GMT
Name calling? But never mind my question,think about the the first sentence and first go two lines of the second. You are old enough to know the good the supporters club have been to Rovers over the years and still are. That includes the people's scapegoat who runs it. It's an old fashioned supporters club where the 'supporters supported the club'!! Todays supporter demands more of that!! They want a say on much,much more. Rightly or wrongly. Times have changed and the supporters club may well be outdated but they still provided to Rovers when needed. Obviously not now so much as we are lucky enough to have someone in charge who has money and passion and wants to take the club places. But this isn't about the 'supporters club' as such. It's about the two seats on the board which were bought by supporters through the share scheme which were/are obviously worth nothing in the boardroom from a very early stage,but the money was! To me these are two spectate issues. And on a side note, If anyone needed telling then BSS said all what was needed to know about his position when Higgs went. JC does plenty behind the scenes and gets crucified on here whilst BSS gets a couple of televisions and some new portaloos behind the blackthorn end! Who has the free ride? Think your overlooking one important point that BBS was highly critical recently of NH's period in charge, JC taken the opposite approach by seemingly praising NH for his team winning promotion, whilst having various digs at the new owners. I think the majority of fans see NH's period in charge one of the worse in our history but Wael potentially the best thing to ever happen to the club, if he does delivery the UWE & a training ground he's promised, so it's a bizarre approach for the Chairman of the group which represents the fans to now take. Could you show me this praise?
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Post by peterparker on May 22, 2016 7:28:56 GMT
Think your overlooking one important point that BBS was highly critical recently of NH's period in charge, JC taken the opposite approach by seemingly praising NH for his team winning promotion, whilst having various digs at the new owners. I think the majority of fans see NH's period in charge one of the worse in our history but Wael potentially the best thing to ever happen to the club, if he does delivery the UWE & a training ground he's promised, so it's a bizarre approach for the Chairman of the group which represents the fans to now take. Could you show me this praise? I think that is down to interpretation but as i said when you are quick.to.have a public dig at the new chair and say nothing against the previous one over a number of years helps that perception
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 7:31:59 GMT
Name calling? But never mind my question,think about the the first sentence and first go two lines of the second. You are old enough to know the good the supporters club have been to Rovers over the years and still are. That includes the people's scapegoat who runs it. It's an old fashioned supporters club where the 'supporters supported the club'!! Todays supporter demands more of that!! They want a say on much,much more. Rightly or wrongly. Times have changed and the supporters club may well be outdated but they still provided to Rovers when needed. Obviously not now so much as we are lucky enough to have someone in charge who has money and passion and wants to take the club places. But this isn't about the 'supporters club' as such. It's about the two seats on the board which were bought by supporters through the share scheme which were/are obviously worth nothing in the boardroom from a very early stage,but the money was! To me these are two spectate issues. And on a side note, If anyone needed telling then BSS said all what was needed to know about his position when Higgs went. JC does plenty behind the scenes and gets crucified on here whilst BSS gets a couple of televisions and some new portaloos behind the blackthorn end! Who has the free ride? Think your overlooking one important point that BBS was highly critical recently of NH's period in charge, JC taken the opposite approach by seemingly praising NH for his team winning promotion, whilst having various digs at the new owners. I think the majority of fans see NH's period in charge one of the worse in our history but Wael potentially the best thing to ever happen to the club, if he does delivery the UWE & a training ground he's promised, so it's a bizarre approach for the Chairman of the group which represents the fans to now take. No, I'm not overlooking that point. BSS highlighted when Higgs left exactly what people on here are saying JC should have done. But he got off lightly compared to the posts on here. They are two of the same to me in the boardroom but it's plain to see who is head and shoulders above the other for what they have done for the club and supporters. But like i say,the supporters club is old school and times have changed. And it's not about the OP either. It's those FAUX seats on the board which people actually thought carried some clout.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 7:39:27 GMT
Perhaps the new owners are asking the same question most of us have asked over the years, what the hell does Ken Masters do to warrant a free seat in Box 1?? Well if a couple of televisions and portaloos behind the Blackthorn End gets you a freebie then there's your answer
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Post by peterparker on May 22, 2016 7:41:52 GMT
Think your overlooking one important point that BBS was highly critical recently of NH's period in charge, JC taken the opposite approach by seemingly praising NH for his team winning promotion, whilst having various digs at the new owners. I think the majority of fans see NH's period in charge one of the worse in our history but Wael potentially the best thing to ever happen to the club, if he does delivery the UWE & a training ground he's promised, so it's a bizarre approach for the Chairman of the group which represents the fans to now take. No, I'm not overlooking that point. BSS highlighted when Higgs left exactly what people on here are saying JC should have done. But he got off lightly compared to the posts on here. They are two of the same to me in the boardroom but it's plain to see who is head and shoulders above the other for what they have done for the club and supporters. But like i say,the supporters club is old school and times have changed. And it's not about the OP either. It's those FAUX seats on the board which people actually thought carried some clout. Who thought they carried any clout?. Many of us lets call them the 50 internet warriors as Boycey put it, said years ago the positions were almost pointless, but as you would always be told better to be watering out and all that. There is only so long you can water out of the tent when.the others are sh**ting inside it Jim has worked a lot of the years for the SC and deserves credit for the hard work, but it appears the club is reorganising itself in a more professional way. The SCs role is going.to change for sure because of how we are owned. If SH has put the SCs nose out of joint, I hope any disagreements can be talked over Years of the club demanding money from Helpline, The SC disappering and not be used to fill the black hole (if this takeover is as real as it appears) is a good thing. Hopefully any monies raised in future can be better utilised for the supporters and supporters club without the club breathing down their neck
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Post by justin blue on May 22, 2016 7:57:08 GMT
I can sense battle lines being drawn up over our new chairperson.... much like it was with NH and GD Nothing changes....... Well at least the moaners have found something to build on.
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Post by dinsdale on May 22, 2016 7:58:02 GMT
Name calling of the school playground variety just goes to show what has been happening behind the scenes, I wouldn't lower myself to this level. The small minded are being flushed out at last. Your question is so simple to answer. Of course money alone does not bring success, do you think we will get far without it? Name calling? But never mind my question,think about the the first sentence and first go two lines of the second. You are old enough to know the good the supporters club have been to Rovers over the years and still are. That includes the people's scapegoat who runs it. It's an old fashioned supporters club where the 'supporters supported the club'!! Todays supporter demands more of that!! They want a say on much,much more. Rightly or wrongly. Times have changed and the supporters club may well be outdated but they still provided to Rovers when needed. Obviously not now so much as we are lucky enough to have someone in charge who has money and passion and wants to take the club places. But this isn't about the 'supporters club' as such. It's about the two seats on the board which were bought by supporters through the share scheme which were/are obviously worth nothing in the boardroom from a very early stage,but the money was! To me these are two separate issues. And on a side note, If anyone needed telling then BSS said all what was needed to know about his position when Higgs went. JC does plenty behind the scenes and gets crucified on here whilst BSS gets a couple of televisions and some new portaloos behind the blackthorn end! Who has the free ride? BRSC haven't supported the club, that's the problem. They have supported the directors and not acted in the best interest of BRFC. The voluntary work done over the decades should always be applauded and respected but when you act or fail to act as they have its time to go.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 7:59:14 GMT
No, I'm not overlooking that point. BSS highlighted when Higgs left exactly what people on here are saying JC should have done. But he got off lightly compared to the posts on here. They are two of the same to me in the boardroom but it's plain to see who is head and shoulders above the other for what they have done for the club and supporters. But like i say,the supporters club is old school and times have changed. And it's not about the OP either. It's those FAUX seats on the board which people actually thought carried some clout. Who thought they carried any clout?. Many of us lets call them the 50 internet warriors as Boycey put it, said years ago the positions were almost pointless, but as you would always be told better to be watering out and all that. There is only so long you can p**s out of the tent when.the others are sh**ting inside it Jim has worked a lot of the years for the SC and deserves credit for the hard work, but it appears the club is reorganising itself in a more professional way. The SCs role is going.to change for sure because of how we are owned. If SH has put the SCs nose out of joint, I hope any disagreements can be talked over Years of the club demanding money from Helpline, The SC disappering and not be used to fill the black hole (if this takeover is as real as it appears) is a good thing. Hopefully any monies raised in future can be better utilised for the supporters and supporters club without the club breathing down their neck Well you and many others for one! If you agree that those seats meant nothing why all the shouting that these people stood by and done nothing to represent the supporters? There are virtually 8 pages saying just this! The Supporters club and two representatives on the board done and said nothing to voice the concerns of the supporters! Would they have been listened to? We all know the answer.
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Post by peterparker on May 22, 2016 8:09:18 GMT
Who thought they carried any clout?. Many of us lets call them the 50 internet warriors as Boycey put it, said years ago the positions were almost pointless, but as you would always be told better to be watering out and all that. There is only so long you can p**s out of the tent when.the others are sh**ting inside it Jim has worked a lot of the years for the SC and deserves credit for the hard work, but it appears the club is reorganising itself in a more professional way. The SCs role is going.to change for sure because of how we are owned. If SH has put the SCs nose out of joint, I hope any disagreements can be talked over Years of the club demanding money from Helpline, The SC disappering and not be used to fill the black hole (if this takeover is as real as it appears) is a good thing. Hopefully any monies raised in future can be better utilised for the supporters and supporters club without the club breathing down their neck Well you and many others for one! If you agree that those seats meant nothing why all the shouting that these people stood by and done nothing to represent the supporters? There are virtually 8 pages saying just this! The Supporters club and two representatives on the board done and said nothing to voice the concerns of the supporters! Would they have been listened to? We all know the answer. I thought i said it clearly enough in this thread and over the years. They should have made a stand. Who knows if it would have made a difference. But it would have been a story to report. When there have been many failed and/or half hearted attempt to creatr a new fans group, you get told to get involved in the SC. If the SC spoke up maybe they would have mobilised more support and help. Pretending to tow the party line was acheiving what. If the SC chair and directors felt similar to a lot of mouthy people on the internet than why didnt they reach out to them? A lot of those 'mouthy' people had heled the SC in the past so maybe they could have brought them into the fold or revitalised them. Is moaning behind closed doors about the club shafting.the SC any different to blowing hot air on a forum?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 8:10:15 GMT
I can sense battle lines being drawn up over our new chairperson.... much like it was with NH and GD Nothing changes....... Well at least the moaners have found something to build on. Useful contribution... It's a topic of debate eh?
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Post by Strange Gas on May 22, 2016 8:10:59 GMT
Right, how did the night shift got on? Ummm, thought not
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Post by justin blue on May 22, 2016 8:18:22 GMT
Well at least the moaners have found something to build on. Useful contribution... I try my best
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Post by therovers on May 22, 2016 8:20:38 GMT
Lost track of the progress on this thread but... Does the ''Supporters Club'' matter enough? (Genuine question). If it does, then let's get rid of this bloke. Lets force a change. I'd gladly lead some kind of protest against him, as I feel quite strongly, to be honest. (IF it's worth doing??) Soon as he's removed, I'll pay to join ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) UTG!
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