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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 16:59:38 GMT
Well reading the matchday thread you do wonder if some posters have a split personality, you know the ones they continually say 'in Dc we trust' & then attack anyone who agrees with DC that we need to sign 2 or 3 more players. They'll also point out this squad was good enough to finish 3rd in L2 last year but god forbid you if you wonder why Billy Bodin (in the second half of last season one of, if not, our best player) isn't starting a game. Incredible to read at times. Maybe i'm expecting too much but is it not reasonable to expect a manager to assemble his squad in time for the first game of the season. Is the summer not long enough? No wonder we always start the season slowly. DC has always got it right in the end but how much better would we be if we started with the right players in place?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 17:14:38 GMT
you imagine your going to have intelligent balanced conversations with fellow fans and sometimes totally disagree with other posters. but you just get infantile comments from people relentlessly following their own agenda and usually simply vanishing when events prove them wrong. lots of people on forums are simply not representative of fans i stand with on the terraces in reality in short forums are rubbish Yeah I agree, some of us even got accused of racism on here for saying Ellis shouldn't have gone to Ashton Gate last year.
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Post by youmadethatup on Aug 7, 2016 17:18:20 GMT
Well reading the matchday thread you do wonder if some posters have a split personality, you know the ones they continually say 'in Dc we trust' & then attack anyone who agrees with DC that we need to sign 2 or 3 more players. They'll also point out this squad was good enough to finish 3rd in L2 last year but god forbid you if you wonder why Billy Bodin (in the second half of last season one of, if not, our best player) isn't starting a game. Incredible to read at times. Maybe i'm expecting too much but is it not reasonable to expect a manager to assemble his squad in time for the first game of the season. Is the summer not long enough? No wonder we always start the season slowly. DC has always got it right in the end but how much better would we be if we started with the right players in place? In close season the squad was assembled and those available at the time that DC wanted were brought in......after a week or so there will be players at rovers who have not even been selected for the bench for the first four games. If a club came forward asking to sign or loan one of these players DC will be more likely to let them go as they do not appear to feature in his immediate plans. The same will apply to other clubs ,there maybe a player who looks like he isn't going to feature for say wolves who might now become available who wasn't before. Also there may have been players who performed well at their club last season who would command a fee...but were they a one season wonder ? If they have continued performing well this season it would seem its not just a moment of glory and maybe worth putting an offer in for. Taylor had plenty of people saying ,yeah he was good in league two and the conference but can he step up ??.....Scunthorpe 0 BRFC 1 yes he can...his value has now increased.
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Post by inee on Aug 7, 2016 17:23:57 GMT
Sadly with forums its the way it is. There is no minimum age and its an ideal place for cowards who can hide behind a user name and insult people. I find it frustrating when a serious thread descends into posters sexual habits, I don't find it shocking just boring as at my age I have heard it all before and its the same with swearing, but that's just my opinion. I like the fun element the genuinely funny posts and the banter, but a forum aint gonna please everyone. Sexual habits ? I've never read such a thing , please explain as I'm genuinely intrigued by your post. Wow you missed the bear humping threads
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 7, 2016 17:24:11 GMT
Pretty much sums up how I see it. There have been posters in the past that I've been 90% sure they must be Sh1!heads on the wind up with some of their comments though. There's some new ones around this season who seem determined that what we've got is a crap side that is going to struggle. I personally don't see it that way but I do respect the other posters on here no matter how rediculous their posts might seem because we've all got an opinion and are entitled to it. Our squad was the third best squad last season behind Northampton and Oxford and we did ok against both of those sides. In the second half of the season we were pretty much unbeatable and we gained momentum as it drew on very much like the season before. We are 1 down 45 to go. I'm feeling very positive that the squad will push on again, keep getting better with the odd addition here and there and we'll keep improving. That opinion is based in what's happened gradually over these last two years. History tends to repeat itself in most walks of life and footballs no different. For years we flirted with relegation and it was only a matter of time before we dropped out of the football league if big changes weren't made. We lose our first game of this season and there's lots of people calling for big changes. We are on a roll and we've got momentum on the pitch and off it. Big changes aren't needed, just a gradual improvement like we've been doing, and that's happening. People need to chill. Well put. But it's not just this forum. In this instant world something is either great now or needs complete change! No time is taken to reflect upon and improve, no looking at the bigger picture. Fortunately I think DC and Wael do reflect upon things, and seek to improve gradually so I think our club is in good hands. That the players over the last few years have improved show the quality of the managerial team at Rovers and I feel quite confident. I was sat in the Scunthorpe main stand and saw DC with MS and Steve Y during the match and felt that it showed a good, calm approach to things. Forums on the other hand....! Being an old git who has followed Rovers for over 50 years I feel I have seen most things and our current position with the personnel we have is the best overall in that time. Long may it continue.
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Post by inee on Aug 7, 2016 17:39:11 GMT
you imagine your going to have intelligent balanced conversations with fellow fans and sometimes totally disagree with other posters. but you just get infantile comments from people relentlessly following their own agenda and usually simply vanishing when events prove them wrong. lots of people on forums are simply not representative of fans i stand with on the terraces in reality in short forums are rubbish Not everyone on a forum has to agree or share others opinions, just as in real life, whose not to say though that some you meet or stand with are some you dislike on forums, personally im the same here as i am in real life. Sometime forums give people the confidence to say what the y really feel about stuff as in real life they may not have the confidence to say to someone in real life for whatever reason, an example there could be someone stood by you who is 17ft tall whose knuckles drag the ground, and you don't have the confidence to say oi ape man your talking crap, but on here that person could feel comfortable enough to say something. We also have to remember a lot of people have be programmed to not challenge the status quo and would never comment openly on something for fear of being labeled(Just the way society works now ). Forums are rubbish yes but they allow us to have a bit of banter with others that would be difficult in real life for one reason or t'udder, it also allows those who can't get out (there are several on here) to feel included and keep in touch with the club and gas family we all love so dearly, it has also helped a few overcome difficulties that life presents and allowed them to at times attend games something that would have not happened without the forum. So yes we all talk a load of bollix , shout and go all psycho when games don't go our way, but also helps others in ways some cant imagine, me i love all the threads even the argumentative ones ,the serious ones , the totally off the wall ones, even the ones where someone gets caught out.
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Post by inee on Aug 7, 2016 18:01:24 GMT
you imagine your going to have intelligent balanced conversations with fellow fans and sometimes totally disagree with other posters. but you just get infantile comments from people relentlessly following their own agenda and usually simply vanishing when events prove them wrong. lots of people on forums are simply not representative of fans i stand with on the terraces in reality in short forums are rubbish Yeah I agree, some of us even got accused of racism on here for saying Ellis shouldn't have gone to Ashton Gate last year. Even worse on the O/F when some of said zebs being called a lady garden ,wasn't that bad in the grand scheme of things. like you i've been called all sorts ,racist ,homophobic,woman hating,islamaphobic, and just about every other so called insult people can think of well to be fair i do laugh long and hard as im not scared of people just dislike some of their actions, as i believe in freedom of speech and that people are allowed to form their own opinions and have the right to those opinions without being labeled even if they are not the same as mine, does it make someone better than someone else just because they do not agree on something nah does it f**k(unless of course it involves anything to do with the sh**, see i have some standards). One thing that does tickle i pink is people who refuse to engage with others because they do not agree with things the other has said, i have mate who are at the other end of the political spectrum to me, but we can still get on because there is a lot more to people than the odd thing we don't agree with. At the end of the day the people who really have the problems are those that refuse to engage in discussion and resort to calling people names using pc terms ,rather than putting things like that aside etc At the end of the day opinions are like asshole we all have one and everyone elses stink more than mine
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Post by inee on Aug 7, 2016 18:05:41 GMT
Well reading the matchday thread you do wonder if some posters have a split personality, you know the ones they continually say 'in Dc we trust' & then attack anyone who agrees with DC that we need to sign 2 or 3 more players. They'll also point out this squad was good enough to finish 3rd in L2 last year but god forbid you if you wonder why Billy Bodin (in the second half of last season one of, if not, our best player) isn't starting a game. Incredible to read at times. For some the gloves come off during the game, some keep stuff in some react by going off the box, better out than in as they say, we are all wired different and on matchday we all cope with our emotions in differing ways , some take it personally, some shrug their shoulders , i guess different strokes for different folks .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 22:32:23 GMT
you imagine your going to have intelligent balanced conversations with fellow fans and sometimes totally disagree with other posters. but you just get infantile comments from people relentlessly following their own agenda and usually simply vanishing when events prove them wrong. lots of people on forums are simply not representative of fans i stand with on the terraces in reality in short forums are rubbish They're that rubbish you still post on them... Irony at its best. Have you thought people 'vanish' because they have a life outside of gaschat, unlike others..? they vanish because there over stated opinions turn out wrong,have you not noticed that trend with some posters? i do post but im disheartened by forums
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 22:41:48 GMT
you imagine your going to have intelligent balanced conversations with fellow fans and sometimes totally disagree with other posters. but you just get infantile comments from people relentlessly following their own agenda and usually simply vanishing when events prove them wrong. lots of people on forums are simply not representative of fans i stand with on the terraces in reality in short forums are rubbish Not everyone on a forum has to agree or share others opinions, just as in real life, whose not to say though that some you meet or stand with are some you dislike on forums, personally im the same here as i am in real life. Sometime forums give people the confidence to say what the y really feel about stuff as in real life they may not have the confidence to say to someone in real life for whatever reason, an example there could be someone stood by you who is 17ft tall whose knuckles drag the ground, and you don't have the confidence to say oi ape man your talking crap, but on here that person could feel comfortable enough to say something. We also have to remember a lot of people have be programmed to not challenge the status quo and would never comment openly on something for fear of being labeled(Just the way society works now ). Forums are rubbish yes but they allow us to have a bit of banter with others that would be difficult in real life for one reason or t'udder, it also allows those who can't get out (there are several on here) to feel included and keep in touch with the club and gas family we all love so dearly, it has also helped a few overcome difficulties that life presents and allowed them to at times attend games something that would have not happened without the forum. So yes we all talk a load of bollix , shout and go all psycho when games don't go our way, but also helps others in ways some cant imagine, me i love all the threads even the argumentative ones ,the serious ones , the totally off the wall ones, even the ones where someone gets caught out. thats a very good reply/post,some very good points made by you
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 8, 2016 7:55:36 GMT
The actual words used in communication is a small percentage of the message itself, something less than 10%. The rest is body language and tone of voice, neither of which is used on a written forum, so understanding the meaning behind a post is not always easy.
How many proof read their posts or read one they are replying to more than once? I've misread posts only to realise that my initial interpretation was actually wrong and context is also important as isolated posts can be misunderstood.
I suspect we almost all agree that we need certain things, such as certain a new player, but the nuances are lost so we end up in a circular argument, arguing about something we actually don't disagree on.
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Post by baggins on Aug 8, 2016 10:23:43 GMT
The actual words used in communication is a small percentage of the message itself, something less than 10%. The rest is body language and tone of voice, neither of which is used on a written forum, so understanding the meaning behind a post is not always easy. How many proof read their posts or read one they are replying to more than once? I've misread posts only to realise that my initial interpretation was actually wrong and context is also important as isolated posts can be misunderstood. I suspect we almost all agree that we need certain things, such as certain a new player, but the nuances are lost so we end up in a circular argument, arguing about something we actually don't disagree on. Never read so much drivvle in my entire life.
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Post by Newton Abbot Gas on Aug 8, 2016 11:36:57 GMT
The support i have had from this forum has really helped me .....it's not always about football it's about people too....proud to be a Gashead ...UTG
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Post by baggins on Aug 8, 2016 11:54:25 GMT
The support i have had from this forum has really helped me .....it's not always about football it's about people too....proud to be a Gashead ...UTG It's about the kettle too.
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Post by jaunkerr on Aug 8, 2016 16:28:48 GMT
Pretty much sums up how I see it. There have been posters in the past that I've been 90% sure they must be Sh1!heads on the wind up with some of their comments though. There's some new ones around this season who seem determined that what we've got is a crap side that is going to struggle. I personally don't see it that way but I do respect the other posters on here no matter how rediculous their posts might seem because we've all got an opinion and are entitled to it. Our squad was the third best squad last season behind Northampton and Oxford and we did ok against both of those sides. In the second half of the season we were pretty much unbeatable and we gained momentum as it drew on very much like the season before. We are 1 down 45 to go. I'm feeling very positive that the squad will push on again, keep getting better with the odd addition here and there and we'll keep improving. That opinion is based in what's happened gradually over these last two years. History tends to repeat itself in most walks of life and footballs no different. For years we flirted with relegation and it was only a matter of time before we dropped out of the football league if big changes weren't made. We lose our first game of this season and there's lots of people calling for big changes. We are on a roll and we've got momentum on the pitch and off it. Big changes aren't needed, just a gradual improvement like we've been doing, and that's happening. People need to chill. Well put. But it's not just this forum. In this instant world something is either great now or needs complete change! No time is taken to reflect upon and improve, no looking at the bigger picture. Fortunately I think DC and Wael do reflect upon things, and seek to improve gradually so I think our club is in good hands. That the players over the last few years have improved show the quality of the managerial team at Rovers and I feel quite confident. I was sat in the Scunthorpe main stand and saw DC with MS and Steve Y during the match and felt that it showed a good, calm approach to things. Forums on the other hand....! Being an old git who has followed Rovers for over 50 years I feel I have seen most things and our current position with the personnel we have is the best overall in that time. Long may it continue. Better than Megson, Francis, David Williams ? I started going to games when Williams was manager and that was the best football I've ever seen us play. Such a gutting thing that he left.
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Post by jaunkerr on Aug 8, 2016 16:57:22 GMT
The actual words used in communication is a small percentage of the message itself, something less than 10%. The rest is body language and tone of voice, neither of which is used on a written forum, so understanding the meaning behind a post is not always easy. How many proof read their posts or read one they are replying to more than once? I've misread posts only to realise that my initial interpretation was actually wrong and context is also important as isolated posts can be misunderstood. I suspect we almost all agree that we need certain things, such as certain a new player, but the nuances are lost so we end up in a circular argument, arguing about something we actually don't disagree on. That is so spot on and also very good to read as advisory. Nice one geezer
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Post by bs9trymer on Aug 8, 2016 17:07:28 GMT
Well put. But it's not just this forum. In this instant world something is either great now or needs complete change! No time is taken to reflect upon and improve, no looking at the bigger picture. Fortunately I think DC and Wael do reflect upon things, and seek to improve gradually so I think our club is in good hands. That the players over the last few years have improved show the quality of the managerial team at Rovers and I feel quite confident. I was sat in the Scunthorpe main stand and saw DC with MS and Steve Y during the match and felt that it showed a good, calm approach to things. Forums on the other hand....! Being an old git who has followed Rovers for over 50 years I feel I have seen most things and our current position with the personnel we have is the best overall in that time. Long may it continue. Better than Megson, Francis, David Williams ? I started going to games when Williams was manager and that was the best football I've ever seen us play. Such a gutting thing that he left. Definitely agree about David Williams,we were talking about those days on Saturday going to Scunthorpe ( and on the way to every other game after we have had a few ).
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Post by youmadethatup on Aug 8, 2016 17:50:05 GMT
Better than Megson, Francis, David Williams ? I started going to games when Williams was manager and that was the best football I've ever seen us play. Such a gutting thing that he left. Definitely agree about David Williams,we were talking about those days on Saturday going to Scunthorpe ( and on the way to every other game after we have had a few ). Dw went on to coach mostly didn't he ?....I remember him being at man united and Norwich city. I suspect he would (as a young man) do very well in today's game.
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Post by bs9trymer on Aug 8, 2016 18:00:33 GMT
Definitely agree about David Williams,we were talking about those days on Saturday going to Scunthorpe ( and on the way to every other game after we have had a few ). Dw went on to coach mostly didn't he ?....I remember him being at man united and Norwich city. I suspect he would (as a young man) do very well in today's game. He would be in his early 60s now I think, I could imagine him in a coaching role still, he was a clever bloke and he put some lovely passes through for Paul Randall plus he had a hell of a shot....happy memories.
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Post by youmadethatup on Aug 8, 2016 18:05:49 GMT
Dw went on to coach mostly didn't he ?....I remember him being at man united and Norwich city. I suspect he would (as a young man) do very well in today's game. He would be in his early 60s now I think, I could imagine him in a coaching role still, he was a clever bloke and he put some lovely passes through for Paul Randall plus he had a hell of a shot....happy memories. Am I correct in remembering that he was originally a school teacher and played part time for rovers ,before finally going full-time...or did I make that up ?
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