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Post by LJG on Aug 19, 2016 22:24:43 GMT
We've all had a drink and said things we regret. I'm sure Steve will be back with his tail between his legs and a sore head tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 22:27:09 GMT
how many league games have you seen byron moore play in? Are you bored or something?? I'm not interested in talking to you dont worry i would feel a bit embarrassed to
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 19, 2016 23:01:32 GMT
The question was a genuine one for people to comment on players who we have brought in that have improved the team particularly with 3 or 4 players arriving by the transfer deadline and some probably going out. I am sorry if I don't come across as having a love in with DC I actually think he is a brilliant Manager but like the players he is still learning his trade and that is completely understandable when you keep getting promotion because in doing that the following season you test yourself as well as the players. I can only give MY opinion on matches as I see them..I would NEVER say I am right but it is my opinion and the way I see the game. I stand to be corrected or disagreed with which is surely the whole point of a forum. Do I rate Darrell Clarke ? Yes of course I do his record speaks for itself. Does he get it right all the time? No he is human. Do I get it right all of the time? No far from it. When everybody trusts DC or even the Owner over everything then the very point of a forum becomes questionable. I think some excellent comments have been made the most interesting and true is that every signing has brought something to the team and the majority have played a part at some time. The real question is how many have improved the team in the longer term or in respect of the loans how many would you have liked to have seen back. It is my opinion that this season with the new rules it is most important that the 3-4 signings all improve the team because it is January before we will be able to do anything about it therefore Darrells judgement needs to be spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 23:20:51 GMT
Steve, this weekend two years ago an under pressure DC oversaw a nervous 1-0 win over Telford. At home.
Just wish people would give the bloke and the squad a chance, its embarrassing.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 20, 2016 0:06:00 GMT
gashead, This season the rules don't really give you the chance to to give the squad a chance because when the transfer window shuts that's it until January and DC will have to live or die by his signing decision. The only good thing we have in our favour is the takeover because I really feel without that we would have been struggling 1) to keep DC 2) to keep the players we have kept 3) to make further signings to carry the sort of squad we need. Its a slightly different position as well to starting life in the Conference in that we don't really have that many players with League 1 experience. There is nothing embarrassing in having an opinion even if it is different to the majority- that's the joy of football.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 0:57:41 GMT
We all know Stevek loves a new signing. We all know he gets frustrated when no new signings are announced.
The OP is probably borne out of his frustration with the lack of new signings, but I actually think he makes a valid point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 6:02:08 GMT
Steve, you aren't getting any genuine replies because there aren't any. Rather than admit that, other posters would prefer to shoot your post down and make daft suggestions about your state. Fwiw, I don't see a problem with trying to expose hard truths.
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Post by garystash on Aug 20, 2016 6:42:49 GMT
Sorry to be dumb, but there's a typo in the thread title and I don't understand the exact question.
Can someone tell me what it should say?
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 20, 2016 6:56:14 GMT
Having re-read Steve's post I guess he does have a point Fallon, who Steve overlooked, was useless, McB didn't get a lot of game time, LL spends more time out injured than Virgo & Kenneth, Hartley is hardly any better than McChrystal, Moore's second choice to Monty as is James to BB. We really want DC to go out and get players who are better than we've got not, so far anyway, seemingly inferior? I think that's harsh on Hartley. He seems very solid to me and is certainly an improvement on TP.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 20, 2016 6:59:36 GMT
I seem to recall Steve saying a few years ago we would get relegated after the Exeter game and a few people including myself shot him down. Not saying that will happen this time but as he's someone who seems to go to every game he should be able to judge the new guys better than most.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 20, 2016 7:25:14 GMT
It's worth considering what state the squad looked to be in at this stage last season, and which players might have been seen as improvements on what we had in the conference. Without going back to check, pretty sure no one was saying Bodin was going to be outstanding for us in the crucial run-in, last September. Pretty sure it was generally accepted that we needed another striker coz Matty was gonna find it more difficult in the League 2. Pretty sure when we got a loan signing in from lowly Cambridge, lots of people thought that was a useless, cheap option. Pretty sure a lot of people thought Mildy had had his day.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 20, 2016 7:31:25 GMT
Having re-read Steve's post I guess he does have a point Fallon, who Steve overlooked, was useless, McB didn't get a lot of game time, LL spends more time out injured than Virgo & Kenneth, Hartley is hardly any better than McChrystal, Moore's second choice to Monty as is James to BB. We really want DC to go out and get players who are better than we've got not, so far anyway, seemingly inferior? I think that's harsh on Hartley. He seems very solid to me and is certainly an improvement on TP. My point was Hartley doesn't seem much of an improvement on McChrystal, given he's hardly coming into the prime of his career shouldn't we really bringing in players who will improve the squad, not just keep it at a similar level? Whilst Hartley is an improvement on last season's TP, I'm not sure if he's an improvement on the TP before he, seemingly, went off the rails. It could be these players will improve like BB did, however, what if DC brought in more players at BB's level now and then they improved, what a team we would have then?
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Aug 20, 2016 7:36:28 GMT
I tell a lie, there is one player who was a bad mistake on DCs part and that was Lee Nichols. But he put that right and admitted it, how many managers would have done that. Ah yes but if you believe some of the posters on here Geoffrey Boycott's "stick of rhubarb" in goal would be better than what we've currently got!!
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Aug 20, 2016 7:43:02 GMT
Sorry to be dumb, but there's a typo in the thread title and I don't understand the exact question. Can someone tell me what it should say? I thought some of it got truncated or deleted and it should say "who was the last" rather than "wast" mind you I have lived away from Bristol so long I might have missed a few colloquialisms an' it bist gert lush me babber.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 20, 2016 8:15:30 GMT
Footballing ability not many.
Mentality, work rate, team ethics, professionalism and the ability to maximize their talents then most of them.
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Post by LJG on Aug 20, 2016 8:26:52 GMT
Steve, you aren't getting any genuine replies because there aren't any. Rather than admit that, other posters would prefer to shoot your post down and make daft suggestions about your state. Fwiw, I don't see a problem with trying to expose hard truths. He's not getting any genuine replies because the question doesn't make any sense. Not the first time Steve has posted a misspelled, slightly controversial thread late in the evening on a weekend.
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Post by bluegas on Aug 20, 2016 8:36:46 GMT
Steve, you aren't getting any genuine replies because there aren't any. Rather than admit that, other posters would prefer to shoot your post down and make daft suggestions about your state. Fwiw, I don't see a problem with trying to expose hard truths. Could I raise some hard truths? Maybe DC's targets or players we need want too much money? Maybe they don't want to come to Bristol? It's not seen as a football hotbed.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Aug 20, 2016 9:26:41 GMT
Utterly bizarre thread, fan has an opinion about football players. Absolute joke what does he think this place is a football forum, oh....
Anyway have I missed the guess the gate thread?
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Post by rambo on Aug 20, 2016 9:39:17 GMT
And this thread is the reason I don't read steves weekly match reports. Kudos for getting to every game mate but your opinions are often so far wide of the mark and you come across as a bit of a plonker half the time.
Back to back promotions and questioning the signings? Get a grip and look at theach bigger picture pal.
Maybe DC is THAT good that he kept the best players in the conference and signed a whole new squad which was capable of performing in league 1?
Leadbitter, James Clarke, Lines, Bodin, Sinclair, Mansell, Montano, Easter, Gosling, Gaffney, Taylor all DC signings who have had a belting couple of seasons and have legendary status for what they have all achieved imo.
Add to that the contributions of Monkhouse, Trotman, Blissett, Dawson, Della-Verde. Even balanta had the balls to notch a penalty at Wembley...
I can count on one hand the number of flops DC has signed and most of them were on loan and went back! Lawrence, Hartley, James, Moore are yet to show their worth but to judge them (especially the latter 3) already is criminal and only highlights your sporadic and wild range of emotions Steve which often cloud judgement and objectivity.
Why am I even having to justify Clarke's signings? Almost every player he signs brings something to the table and 2 promotions on the bounce backs that point up. Get a grip.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 9:45:50 GMT
the signings thing is related to our new owner having in theory lots of money. some people including steve k want us to sign genuine championship players which hartley moore lawrence and james are not at least right now. there is no sign of the owner putting the huge amount of money required to get that level of player so dc has to try to improve the squad with lower level players. if higgs was in charge still we would have lost taylor and bodin and i doubt we could have afforded james on loan.
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