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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 30, 2016 12:20:32 GMT
It was not in any way meant to mean those people missing this fixture are any lesser or greater supporter however it is a fact that those who miss the game are not supporting the club. I am lucky (or some would say unlucky!!) enough to see every game home and away but does that make me more or less a fan? My personal feeling is that it does not. My first mail on this was against those who were insinuating that nobody should go to this game rather than say it was a Personal choice. Rant over. So your definition of supporting the club is blindly accept whatever sh** is thrown at you? Like you've said yourself that's your opinion but in my opinion the EFL were hoping that the majority took your view so they could push these disgraceful changes through. |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 30, 2016 12:48:38 GMT
From reading all the posts in this thread, the most disappointing thing is how it has set fan against fan and how some are getting personal and giving it strong. I will not be going tonight because I will not travel 3 hours there and 2 and a half back to watch us against u23s. I go to lots of matches, away and home and did so in the Conference as well but this is a line I won't accept but that doesn't make me any better or worse than other fans, it's just different. I am against this whole trial of inviting youth teams into a lower league competition and do not believe for a moment the rubbish being spouted by the FL about it helping England etc. It's about some teams who agreed with it taking their pieces of silver. But I have no illusion about my opinion counting for anything. Unfortunately, clubs like Rovers and others who voted against it have to go along with it because of majority voting. I could see the attraction of putting out our youth team as well but we would get fined and that money may well pay for two months of a loan player. So we as a club are shafted every which way. But this is a matter of personal opinion, I have mine and others have theirs. To listen to fans telling other fans what to do and if they don't agree to what they're being told then slagging them off as lesser Rovers fans is stupid and wrong (IMO!). To liken it to crossing a picket line, uhh what's that all about. Sorry mate, I enjoy your posts and nearly always agree with you and I won't be going tonight but ....Ridiculous, it's a football match, it's leisure what we do after work and family stuff. In the end it's up to fans to decide and those who go I totally respect and understand why they go and those who don't, similar.
We do however need to make them aware that we are dead against this and unfortunately if clubs lose money over it through the season I think that would be the only way to stop this experiment. Then clubs would vote against it for next season.
I hope that DC puts out a good side tonight because having the Swindon and Walsall cancellations we need to have a game to keep us ticking over and not a two week break. In a way it goes against what I believe but in the end the overall what's best for Rovers is the most important part of this because if we don't look after our club the EFL or FL or whatever they call themselves won't. They don't give a monkey's.
UTG!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 30, 2016 13:03:53 GMT
I could see the attraction of putting out our youth team as well but we would get fined and that money may well pay for two months of a loan player. So we as a club are shafted every which way. The OS says we're putting out "...a ‘full’ Bristol Rovers team..." whatever that means. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 30, 2016 13:04:39 GMT
It was not in any way meant to mean those people missing this fixture are any lesser or greater supporter however it is a fact that those who miss the game are not supporting the club. I am lucky (or some would say unlucky!!) enough to see every game home and away but does that make me more or less a fan? My personal feeling is that it does not. My first mail on this was against those who were insinuating that nobody should go to this game rather than say it was a Personal choice. Rant over. So your definition of supporting the club is blindly accept whatever sh** is thrown at you? Like you've said yourself that's your opinion but in my opinion the EFL were hoping that the majority took your view so they could push these disgraceful changes through.and Both opinions are valid in my oppinion |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Aug 30, 2016 13:04:54 GMT
I could see the attraction of putting out our youth team as well but we would get fined and that money may well pay for two months of a loan player. So we as a club are shafted every which way. The OS says we're putting out "...a ‘full’ Bristol Rovers team..." whatever that means. Means they're having a big pre-match meal! |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 30, 2016 13:10:33 GMT
and Both opinions are valid in my oppinion Yep, they're both valid, but one is doing what the FA and the FL want, and one is doing what BRFC and DC want.Love to see that written down somewhere... or is it just guess work on your part ? What DC wants is for us to WIN the competition so enhance his growing reputation as a manager and getting him a better move at the end of the season... Leeds this year, premiership next year |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 30, 2016 13:13:12 GMT
Yep, they're both valid, but one is doing what the FA and the FL want, and one is doing what BRFC and DC want.Love to see that written down somewhere... or is it just guess work on your part ? What DC wants is for us to WIN the competition so enhance his growing reputation as a manager and getting him a better move at the end of the season... Leeds this year, premiership next year I was talking about the governing bodies' decisions in regard to the format of the competition. BRFC voted against it, and DC called it a farce. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 30, 2016 13:20:17 GMT
Love to see that written down somewhere... or is it just guess work on your part ? What DC wants is for us to WIN the competition so enhance his growing reputation as a manager and getting him a better move at the end of the season... Leeds this year, premiership next year I was talking about the governing bodies' decisions in regard to the format of the competition. BRFC voted against it, and DC called it a farce. Agree 100% about being a Farce but i bet he still wants to WIN it |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 30, 2016 13:24:02 GMT
I was talking about the governing bodies' decisions in regard to the format of the competition. BRFC voted against it, and DC called it a farce. Agree 100% about being a Farce but i bet he still wants to WIN it I still want to win it. But I would also rather no one turns up. |
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Post by lulworthgas on Aug 30, 2016 13:24:46 GMT
What a load of absolute bulls--t. People trying to dictate who attends and who doesn't attend. Gosh that sounds just like the FA or Premier League or whoever make these decisions. If you honestly feel that a poor attendance is going to even make the FA reconsider any future junk they throw at us you are highly mistaken but never mind all enjoy your night off..at least it will make parking easier for us who will SUPPORT our club. Surley the best way of supporting the club would be underpinning their decision to vote against the competition and boycotting it? |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 30, 2016 13:32:21 GMT
I could see the attraction of putting out our youth team as well but we would get fined and that money may well pay for two months of a loan player. So we as a club are shafted every which way. The OS says we're putting out "...a ‘full’ Bristol Rovers team..." whatever that means. I hope DC concentrates on the football side and plays a strong team and wins in front of a crowd of under 1000! It's up to us fans to cause a stink because if DC or the club did they would get fined or in DCs case be in breach of contract if he didn't do his best to win a football match. Blimey, what a situation to be in, the FL or EFL being led by a bunch of money grabbing morons! Lord help us! UTG! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 14:12:16 GMT
The Checkatrade twitter account doesn't do them any favours judging by some of their replies to fans about non-attendance in these games!!
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 30, 2016 14:20:57 GMT
It was not in any way meant to mean those people missing this fixture are any lesser or greater supporter however it is a fact that those who miss the game are not supporting the club. I am lucky (or some would say unlucky!!) enough to see every game home and away but does that make me more or less a fan? My personal feeling is that it does not. My first mail on this was against those who were insinuating that nobody should go to this game rather than say it was a Personal choice. Rant over. Rubbish. I believe that by not giving my approval to the game tonight I am supporting the long term interests of the club. The club appears to agree with me, as apparently does the supporters club. |
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Post by lpgas on Aug 30, 2016 14:33:54 GMT
Just received this e mail. Says it all for me.
Open Letter To Supporters Ahead Of Tonight's EFL Trophy #BTeamBoycott
Tonight sees the first matches of the newly revamped EFL Trophy – and as such the first games of the #BTeamBoycott
Against League 3 is asking supporters not to attend games in the EFL Trophy. We ask this of all supporters, from The Premier League down to League 2, to neutrals and non-league fans. Lower league football is increasingly under threat – and the EFL Trophy sets a damaging irreversible precedent that accelerates and assists the deconstruction of the greatest football pyramid structure in the world.
Whether you choose to boycott B-Team games or the entire competition is your decision. We feel boycotting the entire competition sends a greater message – but we understand supporters when they tell us that they have nothing against playing regular teams in this competition. This is especially relevant when considering the clubs that voted against these measures.
Asking supporters to boycott is a decision that we took with a heavy heart. No-one wants to deliberately avoid going to watch their team. It’s a horrible feeling. Against League 3 has always been a campaign that was run on the wishes and direction provided by our campaign supporters. When the Trophy changes were announced, our Twitter feed and our emails were overwhelmed by fans telling us to organise the boycott of this competition – so we did.
Boycotting doesn’t make you any less loyal or any less of a true supporter. Boycotting means you reject the idea that our teams should become just another tool for the Premier League youth development conveyor belt. Boycotting means you are willing to stand up and be counted to try and improve football for all levels – not for just the select few.
Boycotting these games may have some impact on your team – but a national boycott will have serious damage to the Football League executive – a group that betrayed football supporters for a tiny payday. This vote was forced on teams – and they accepted the idea following promises that were quickly broken. Everyone watched the farcical process of waiting for invitations to be returned from the Premier League. The Football League made promises that it simply could not deliver.
When Greg Dyke’s commission first suggested B-Teams in May 2014 – Against League 3 was started by two lower league football fans that fully rejected the idea that our teams should regularly play reserve sides for the benefit of the National Team. Many agreed with us, and 34,000 supporters signed a petition against these plans. Such was the public pressure that The FA ditched the proposals.
The Football League has always been fully aware that these measures are not supported by fans of the lower leagues. We’re told that “something had to be done” – that “the trophy needed rejuvenating” and Football League executives and chairmen have fallen over themselves to announce that this isn’t “the thin end of the wedge” for B-Teams entering the pyramid structure.
Yes, something had to be done about The EFL Trophy – but attempting to “rejuvenate” a trophy using measures supporters were firmly against is incompetent at best – arrogant at worst.
Serious concerns were raised regarding the voting procedure for these EFL Trophy plans. Representatives from several clubs confirmed to AL3 that they were given minimal notice by The Football League to ask supporters what they thought of the changes.
The decline of The JPT has been steady over a number of years. Why the rush to act? Why the deliberate prevention of supporter consultation? Where is the evidence that the changes truly help the national team?
In Shaun Harvey – The Football League has a chief executive that is overseeing the slow destruction of our pyramid and competition system. Following his exploits at Bradford City and Leeds – it’s unlikely he would himself pass the “Fit & Proper Persons Test” required for owning a football club. Harvey has told government he does not support supporter ownership, been accused by OFCOM of organising harassing radio broadcasts, banned the supporters trust at Leeds from buying tickets after questioning the regime, oversaw the awful EFL rebrand and has pushed for B-Teams despite vocal fan protestations. Against League 3 continues to call for his resignation.
English football is changing. There is genuine pressure from UEFA over England’s fixture scheduling considering that European domestic and international football will see changed formats over the next few years. What supporters must do is ensure we do not get stuck with an unworkable pyramid system for the next number of years. FA Cup replays are under increasing threat. Supporters must be open to change, but they have to be the right changes that benefit the many over the few.
If you decide to protest tonight – please do so safely, peacefully and legally. Please be understanding of fans that do decide to attend and try to educate rather than berate them. Don’t forget to stay involved with your supporters trust – or consider starting one if you don’t have one.
Supporters can be a real force for positive change in football. Let’s start tonight.
Thank you for supporting AL3 and the #BTeamBoycott
James Cave
AL3 Campaign Manager
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Post by lpgas on Aug 30, 2016 14:39:26 GMT
and no I am NOT going. To me this is just a try out to see if the U23 teams can hack it at our level, if they win a few how long will it be before they are playing in Div 1 and 2?
The FA want to improve the England team, to do that just bring in a rule that every premier team must have 4 / 5 English players in it. The Premier League will tell the FA to f**k off. They FA have no teeth, not even dentures
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 16:26:54 GMT
I would have boycotted it but my mate is over from Australia and he is a bloody gas fanatic and will go to every game possible when he is here until the end of September so I will be going with him tomorrow night but I do agree it is a p**s take so I won't be going again unless we get to the final of course !! Good for you mate and I hope your mate from THE OTHERSIDE OF THE WORLD enjoys watching Rovers for proberbly the first time in years. Take care crossing that picket line mine. |
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 30, 2016 16:40:46 GMT
I could see the attraction of putting out our youth team as well but we would get fined and that money may well pay for two months of a loan player. So we as a club are shafted every which way. The OS says we're putting out "...a ‘full’ Bristol Rovers team..." whatever that means. We have to. According to the rules of this poxy competition, we get fined £5k if we don't. EDIT: Sorry - just seen that this rule has been changed - a minimum of 5 first team players The last minute rule changes also allow for all disciplinary sanctions to be exclusive to the tournament - i.e. you get sent off, it only applies to the Checkatrade trophy and not other league or cup games. A licence for thuggery IMO. Imagine a game getting a bit feisty and the players realising that a sending off will have little consequence - I can see disaster. |
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 30, 2016 16:44:00 GMT
A lot of people made the personal choice to vote for the Nazi Party in Germany in the 1930's. They were a bunch of deluded muppets that were told by many their actions would have grave consequences.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 30, 2016 16:44:01 GMT
The OS says we're putting out "...a ‘full’ Bristol Rovers team..." whatever that means. We have to. According to the rules of this poxy competition, we get fined £5k if we don't. Luckily DC can make 6 changes, and say 'I do that most weeks.' |
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