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Post by orgasmic on Sept 3, 2016 20:55:43 GMT
Firstly, apologies if this has been posted. Secondly, the aim of this isn't to be divisive or create a them/us culture. Thirdly, hope the pics work. Below are letters sent by the EFL to all chairmen 17th August proposing restructuring the football league to create a League 3. To all those who feel attending Checkatrade Trophy games doesn't validate their grim crusade I hope this helps persuade you that the powers that be are attacking the game we love and the reality is that if we don't take action it will soon be too late. Their experiment needs to fail in spectacular fashion to send a clear message to all Chairmen that we can't and won't be bought.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Sept 3, 2016 21:26:55 GMT
Well I have to say it's out of our hands. It's down to 72 chairmen to save our sport and that didn't happen for the efl trophy change. How is this going to help The national team and why should we help the national team. id say over 99% of proper football fans would rather there club be successful than there country.
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Post by Somersetgas on Sept 3, 2016 21:35:45 GMT
Well I have to say it's out of our hands. It's down to 72 chairmen to save our sport and that didn't happen for the efl trophy change. How is this going to help The national team and why should we help the national team. id say over 99% of proper football fans would rather there club be successful than there country. All the majority of chairman and owners will think is lining their pocket, and dreaming of the hallowed land of the Premiership, look at the EFL nonsense this season, that the majority of lower league chairman agreed to. The game is doomed as we know it, just like the National team, ruined by The Premiership and UEFA and all that money.
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Post by orgasmic on Sept 3, 2016 21:44:50 GMT
It's not too late and it's not out of our hands. The biggest source of income for clubs outside of the PL is gate receipts. If chairmen think gates will dwindle as a result of the changes then they will vote against. If they feel people will turn up regardless of what's put in front of them they might consider voting for. A statement of intent by boycotting the remaining Checkatrade Trophy matches will send that message out to Chairmen up and down the country.
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Post by Somersetgas on Sept 3, 2016 21:48:53 GMT
It's not too late and it's not out of our hands. The biggest source of income for clubs outside of the PL is gate receipts. If chairmen think gates will dwindle as a result of the changes then they will vote against. If they feel people will turn up regardless of what's put in front of them they might consider voting for. A statement of intent by boycotting the remaining Checkatrade Trophy matches will send that message out to Chairmen up and down the country. Think the message needs to get out there properly, people need to boycott these games across the country.
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Post by orgasmic on Sept 3, 2016 21:52:34 GMT
It's not too late and it's not out of our hands. The biggest source of income for clubs outside of the PL is gate receipts. If chairmen think gates will dwindle as a result of the changes then they will vote against. If they feel people will turn up regardless of what's put in front of them they might consider voting for. A statement of intent by boycotting the remaining Checkatrade Trophy matches will send that message out to Chairmen up and down the country. Think the message needs to get out there properly, people need to boycott these games across the country. Totally agree. It's no coincidence they have sent this privately and made no attempt to engage fans in the matter.
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Post by Somersetgas on Sept 3, 2016 21:54:06 GMT
Think the message needs to get out there properly, people need to boycott these games across the country. Totally agree. It's no coincidence they have sent this privately and made no attempt to engage fans in the matter. This needs posting on every lower league and conference teams forums, I'm quite happy to assist
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 22:48:59 GMT
Just goes to show those who attended the Reading U23 game need to wake up and smell the coffee before we start playing them in the league.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 3, 2016 23:17:14 GMT
I've already started a thread about these changes last weekend, after the EFL boss suggested the two Glasgow giants maybe 2 of the extra teams joining the FL, so it's hardly being kept secret? Plus the changes were also discussed this summer, were there seemed little interest in the changes?
Although before we start talking about this as being the demise of football as we know it, is it that big an issue if Rovers remain in the 2nd division and we don't have to travel to the likes of Hartlepool for a mid week game?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 2:45:55 GMT
I've already started a thread about these changes last weekend, after the EFL boss suggested the two Glasgow giants maybe 2 of the extra teams joining the FL, so it's hardly being kept secret? Plus the changes were also discussed this summer, were there seemed little interest in the changes? Although before we start talking about this as being the demise of football as we know it, is it that big an issue if Rovers remain in the 2nd division and we don't have to travel to the likes of Hartlepool for a mid week game? I'd rather travel to Hartlepool on a Tuesday evening that any B/U23/U21 side in the league. The day we start playing anyone's second/third string in league football is the day I will say f**k it and not bother anymore.
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Post by mullerrd on Sept 4, 2016 6:46:47 GMT
I think most fans would say there is something special about watching an evening game in terms of the atmopshere generated. That has always applied in my experience whether the matches have been played at Eastville, Twerton or the Mem.
The removal/reduction of midweek games by 19/20 would be a sad loss and would do nothing to support the wellbeing of the national game. I would hate the day when I found myself saying, ' Remember when we used to play on a Tuesday/Wednesday evening. '
If the real issue is the distance travelled by clubs in midweek then this can be easily remedied by planning the fixtures in a more intelligent way. It's not rocket science.
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Post by orgasmic on Sept 4, 2016 7:44:13 GMT
I've already started a thread about these changes last weekend, after the EFL boss suggested the two Glasgow giants maybe 2 of the extra teams joining the FL, so it's hardly being kept secret? Plus the changes were also discussed this summer, were there seemed little interest in the changes? Although before we start talking about this as being the demise of football as we know it, is it that big an issue if Rovers remain in the 2nd division and we don't have to travel to the likes of Hartlepool for a mid week game? Totally missed that thread...sorry. Still if I missed it many others might have too. My point is that despite unanimously being dismissed last time they proposed it, they are pushing hard for it again. The Checkatrade Trophy seems to be the gateway and we need to send a clear message to those in charge that we don't want a league full if B Teams.
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Post by youmadethatup on Sept 4, 2016 7:58:25 GMT
The best place for protest is at live televised football games....especially England games,where a lot of lower league supporters often go.
Ruin our clubs...we will ruin England's national side.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 4, 2016 8:05:36 GMT
...we will ruin England's national side. Too late.
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Post by peterparker on Sept 4, 2016 8:14:11 GMT
I will say again i am not agsinst restructure of the divisions and adding clubs as such with s proper revamped FL Trophy. I think we only have 4 midweek gsmes as is and i think games called off and cup runs etc along with the FLT would mean there would still be midweek games
As long as the extra clubs csme from the conference and arent B Teams or Scottish.
The FL has changed a lot over 30 years and probsbly needs to in some shape or form going forward. I dont think we should get too precious about it but at the same time dont lie down and take the wrong type of change
Imagine the outcry on social media when the play offs were introduced or back in 1920 when Rovers were a founding member of divsion 3 diluting and threatening the top two divisions etc, etc
Change doesnr have to be bad, but i think the fans need to make it clear B Teams and Scots are a no
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 8:19:58 GMT
Celtics under 20s played in the Scottish Cup. They got thrashed by Livingstone 5.1 which was proberblay the only plus coming out of that rounds games. People attending or not attending the Checatrade Trophy games will not make one iota of a difference. Allowing under 23 sides into the competition is a softening blow for what really is their main aim!
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Post by youmadethatup on Sept 4, 2016 8:20:12 GMT
...we will ruin England's national side. Too late. Haha...I wondered who would be first to say that ! I was hinting at more militant action.......
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Sept 4, 2016 8:27:37 GMT
Haha...I wondered who would be first to say that ! I was hinting at more militant action....... Kidnap Marcus Rashford.
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Post by youmadethatup on Sept 4, 2016 8:29:36 GMT
Haha...I wondered who would be first to say that ! I was hinting at more militant action....... Kidnap Marcus Rashford. Haha not quite that militant !...
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 4, 2016 8:37:12 GMT
I guess the big question is why actually do the FL want to stop mid week games/increase the FL to 100 clubs, when there seems so little support from the FL's own clubs? If Man U etc aren't interested in the EFL Trophy it's not as if they are desperate to play more games against FL sides to replace the lost mid week games.
As far as the Checktrade games if fans boycotting them doesn't send out a clear message fans don't want them I don't know what else does.
Perhaps a boycott the final could be the killer if one U23 team gets there, as that's where the most money is made for FL clubs?
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