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Post by Severncider on Sept 4, 2016 21:28:18 GMT
I know of at least 1400 people that don't give a sh**. An unfortunate comment against fellow Gasheads.
It is up to each individual Gashead where they show their support without this denigration.
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Post by orgasmic on Sept 5, 2016 6:01:23 GMT
I know of at least 1400 people that don't give a sh**. An unfortunate comment against fellow Gasheads.
It is up to each individual Gashead where they show their support without this denigration.
It's not "against fellow Gasheads", it's stating facts. If people really gave a sh** they would not have attended. They attended so ergo they don't give a sh**. Of course that's their right, their opinion, their choice...
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 5, 2016 6:37:02 GMT
An unfortunate comment against fellow Gasheads.
It is up to each individual Gashead where they show their support without this denigration.
It's not "against fellow Gasheads", it's stating facts. If people really gave a sh** they would not have attended. They attended so ergo they don't give a sh**. Of course that's their right, their opinion, their choice... I went and i do give a sh** Rovers "Had" to play that game so the least i could do was support them If Rovers did not want any supporters to attend they should have made the the ticket price £50 It is obvious to me that if the FL do not change the structure of the leagues then the Championship will break away and become the Premier league Championship with no chance to get promoted to it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 7:03:07 GMT
It's not "against fellow Gasheads", it's stating facts. If people really gave a sh** they would not have attended. They attended so ergo they don't give a sh**. Of course that's their right, their opinion, their choice... I went and i do give a sh** Rovers "Had" to play that game so the least i could do was support them If Rovers did not want any supporters to attend they should have made the the ticket price £50 It is obvious to me that if the FL do not change the structure of the leagues then the Championship will break away and become the Premier league Championship with no chance to get promoted to it A very contradictory statement there Henbury. Dress it up however you like, you and 1,400 others endorsed this trial by attending last Tuesday's game. You had the chance to vote against it and you decided not to. Your right of course, but you can have absolutely no complaints if trial is expanded and made permanent. This issue is far bigger than 'Rovers need our support'. Again I take my hat off to everyone who saw the bigger picture and selflessly didn't attend to protest.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Sept 5, 2016 7:03:19 GMT
It's not "against fellow Gasheads", it's stating facts. If people really gave a sh** they would not have attended. They attended so ergo they don't give a sh**. Of course that's their right, their opinion, their choice... I went and i do give a sh** Rovers "Had" to play that game so the least i could do was support them If Rovers did not want any supporters to attend they should have made the the ticket price £50 It is obvious to me that if the FL do not change the structure of the leagues then the Championship will break away and become the Premier league Championship with no chance to get promoted to it A simple question then. If it's obvious that there will be a breakaway of Championship clubs what makes it any less obvious after a Football League reorganisation? The only difference is there would be 20 and not 24 clubs in the Championship, I'd suggest the Premier League would be more interested in dealing with 20 clubs (coincidently the same number as in the Premier League?) than 24.
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Post by Gasshole on Sept 5, 2016 7:05:47 GMT
One of the greatest things about English football is it's pyramid system. Gives everyone a chance of progressing, and keeps things fresh and exciting. Been watching a lot of A League for the last 12 years. One league, ten teams, no relagation or promotion. Only way to join is if they increase the number of franchises or take someone's franchise away. In short it's sh1thouse, like being trapped in some kind of fkin Groundhog Day.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Sept 5, 2016 7:15:14 GMT
I've been boycotting it for years,what a pointless Mickey Mouse trophy it is. Now it's become even worse, and another step towards marginalising lower league clubs. We need a mid season break for the top clubs if we want international success, not to tinker about with the football structure, which this is another example of. The formation of the Premiership being the first.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Sept 5, 2016 7:30:42 GMT
It's not "against fellow Gasheads", it's stating facts. If people really gave a sh** they would not have attended. They attended so ergo they don't give a sh**. Of course that's their right, their opinion, their choice... I went and i do give a sh** Rovers "Had" to play that game so the least i could do was support them If Rovers did not want any supporters to attend they should have made the the ticket price £50 It is obvious to me that if the FL do not change the structure of the leagues then the Championship will break away and become the Premier league Championship with no chance to get promoted to it Rovers voted against it correct? That's enough reason to not go, if the club don't support it then I don't see how Rovers fans can.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 5, 2016 7:31:11 GMT
I've been boycotting it for years,what a pointless Mickey Mouse trophy it is. Now it's become even worse, and another step towards marginalising lower league clubs. We need a mid season break for the top clubs if we want international success, not to tinker about with the football structure, which this is another example of. The formation of the Premiership being the first. Having watched that shower of sh** last night i do wonder why we bother with all this national football team crap
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Post by peterparker on Sept 5, 2016 7:54:56 GMT
One of the greatest things about English football is it's pyramid system. Gives everyone a chance of progressing, and keeps things fresh and exciting. Been watching a lot of A League for the last 12 years. One league, ten teams, no relagation or promotion. Only way to join is if they increase the number of franchises or take someone's franchise away. In short it's sh1thouse, like being trapped in some kind of fkin Groundhog Day. indeed and 5 divisions of 20 would give clubs a greater chance of play-offs/promotion/relegation. Just don't have B Teams or Scots
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 8:20:25 GMT
One of the greatest things about English football is it's pyramid system. Gives everyone a chance of progressing, and keeps things fresh and exciting. Been watching a lot of A League for the last 12 years. One league, ten teams, no relagation or promotion. Only way to join is if they increase the number of franchises or take someone's franchise away. In short it's sh1thouse, like being trapped in some kind of fkin Groundhog Day. indeed and 5 divisions of 20 would give clubs a greater chance of play-offs/promotion/relegation. Just don't have B Teams or Scots Would also see us relegated in all likelihood
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Post by newmarketgas on Sept 5, 2016 8:59:50 GMT
An unfortunate comment against fellow Gasheads.
It is up to each individual Gashead where they show their support without this denigration.
It's not "against fellow Gasheads", it's stating facts. If people really gave a sh** they would not have attended. They attended so ergo they don't give a sh**. Of course that's their right, their opinion, their choice... No, that is stating your opinion, a fact is, you have no idea why these people went to the game.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 5, 2016 9:39:43 GMT
I know of at least 1400 people that don't give a sh**. An unfortunate comment against fellow Gasheads.
It is up to each individual Gashead where they show their support without this denigration.
It is my opinion that those that attended did Rovers and lower league football fans a disservice. I do not intend that as denigration, it's just my opinion. I'm sure many who went may care but for some unknown reason have chosen not to express it by non attendance at an Academy match despite that seeming to be the most obvious way to express displeasure at the new format. Again, it's my opinion that the people who are trying to force these B Teams on us will look first and foremost at match attendance to see if it's financially worthwhile to pursue it futher. Those that went are capable of making their own cases why they felt it ok to attend and I have no issue with them doing so. Its their absolute right to hold an opinion that is completely opposed to mine. As with all opinions I may be right and I may be wrong and it may also be subject to change.
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Post by philbemmygas on Sept 5, 2016 11:27:35 GMT
I explained on one of the other threads about this subject as to why I attended, do I care YES. Can I affect the decision of the F.A. hierarchy, I don't believe I can that is down to the Chairmen of the football league clubs to ensure their voices are heard.
By not attending games wholesale the FL management may see dissatisfaction, but the power is with the members of the league.
Andy, you know me I am a pretty pragmatic sort of guy who is open and honest. I will happily discuss viewpoints over a beer, I am not one for internet wrangling. I allowed myself to get ill after one such event on here, no longer will a point of view effect me to that degree.
UTG, lets sse you all at the Mem this Saturday
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Post by lpgas on Sept 5, 2016 12:06:40 GMT
I've been boycotting it for years,what a pointless Mickey Mouse trophy it is. Now it's become even worse, and another step towards marginalising lower league clubs. We need a mid season break for the top clubs if we want international success, not to tinker about with the football structure, which this is another example of. The formation of the Premiership being the first. International success? If we want that then the FA are going to have to bring in a rule that each Premier club has to have 3 / 4/ 5 English players in their team, and it wont happen because they are frightened of upsetting the cash cow SKY. More importantly how can the U23 teams playing in OUR (lower league cup) competition help England when the majority of them that played were NOT English. And lets face it the Prem clubs don't give a sh** about us.
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 5, 2016 12:44:08 GMT
One of the greatest things about English football is it's pyramid system. Gives everyone a chance of progressing, and keeps things fresh and exciting. Been watching a lot of A League for the last 12 years. One league, ten teams, no relagation or promotion. Only way to join is if they increase the number of franchises or take someone's franchise away. In short it's sh1thouse, like being trapped in some kind of fkin Groundhog Day. indeed and 5 divisions of 20 would give clubs a greater chance of play-offs/promotion/relegation. Just don't have B Teams or Scots We could go with 4 up and 4 down, three automatic and one via the playoffs. When the playoffs were first brought in they included a team from the division above, not sure that is a wise move but would certainly make things interesting.
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 5, 2016 12:53:32 GMT
It's not "against fellow Gasheads", it's stating facts. If people really gave a sh** they would not have attended. They attended so ergo they don't give a sh**. Of course that's their right, their opinion, their choice... No, that is stating your opinion, a fact is, you have no idea why these people went to the game. My view, for what it is worth, is that those who went fell into a few broad categories. Some wanted to go and watch Rovers play regardless, some may even have agreed or at least been ambivalent to the plans and some who were unaware of the politics. My dad, for example, didn't realise and thought we were playing Reading rather than their u23s. My question to those who did go, were there any protests or leafletting outside the ground and could it have made a difference? Not everyone belongs to a social media network and may not have been totally aware of the veracity of the boycott.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 5, 2016 13:04:19 GMT
No, that is stating your opinion, a fact is, you have no idea why these people went to the game. My view, for what it is worth, is that those who went fell into a few broad categories. Some wanted to go and watch Rovers play regardless, some may even have agreed or at least been ambivalent to the plans and some who were unaware of the politics. My dad, for example, didn't realise and thought we were playing Reading rather than their u23s. My question to those who did go, were there any protests or leafletting outside the ground and could it have made a difference? Not everyone belongs to a social media network and may not have been totally aware of the veracity of the boycott. I went to the game and was called a "scab" by people on here. yet i didn't see or hear any protects outside the ground. i did not cross any picket lines, but i'm still a "scab" Yet more keyboard warriors
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2016 13:10:26 GMT
I've been boycotting it for years,what a pointless Mickey Mouse trophy it is. Now it's become even worse, and another step towards marginalising lower league clubs. We need a mid season break for the top clubs if we want international success, not to tinker about with the football structure, which this is another example of. The formation of the Premiership being the first. International success? If we want that then the FA are going to have to bring in a rule that each Premier club has to have 3 / 4/ 5 English players in their team, and it wont happen because they are frightened of upsetting the cash cow SKY. More importantly how can the U23 teams playing in OUR (lower league cup) competition help England when the majority of them that played were NOT English. And lets face it the Prem clubs don't give a sh** about us. Last week's game was played during the international games break so all Reading's internationals, inc any England players if they had any, had been called up, you couldn't make it up!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2016 13:11:23 GMT
One of the greatest things about English football is it's pyramid system. Gives everyone a chance of progressing, and keeps things fresh and exciting. Been watching a lot of A League for the last 12 years. One league, ten teams, no relagation or promotion. Only way to join is if they increase the number of franchises or take someone's franchise away. In short it's sh1thouse, like being trapped in some kind of fkin Groundhog Day. indeed and 5 divisions of 20 would give clubs a greater chance of play-offs/promotion/relegation. Just don't have B Teams or Scots Brilliant if we stayed in Div 1 but a shocker if we finish up back in Div 2?
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