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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 14:41:05 GMT
The red card decision winds me up the more I watch it.
As soon as the ball bounces, the Millwall player looks at Leadbitter and actually changes his run, and goes into Leadbitter. If anything, a foul the other way. Absolute shitfest of a decision. Call it clever, I call him a cheating ..........
How on earth he has arrived at that decision I will never know. It wound me up at the time as it was evidently a collison (I had one view, like the ref) but its wound me up even more now. Has to be overturned. But the damage is done. Clear dive, I know moaning like a bitch wont do anything but its proper frustrating.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 15:05:07 GMT
Just watched the highlights,at the time I thought it was a foul,having seen it in slow motion it looks more clumsy than intent and leadbiter was not even the last man. Another point to make is that the new laws brought in this season make it illegal to surround a referee in order to influence his decision so by the letter of the law the millwall number 5 should have received a yellow card for his actions and anothert forb laying hands on the referee
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 15:16:06 GMT
Lockyer covering aswell so hardly last man. What's with Millwalls kit?
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 13, 2016 15:40:09 GMT
Watched it several times and looks less like a foul each time, let alone a red card. I'm all for supporting referees but blimey that was poor and in the 14th minute cost us the game. I can just imagine what the Millwall lot would say if it had been the other way round! Still we move on and make sure we win on Tuesday. UTG!
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Post by mariobalotelli on Nov 13, 2016 15:42:45 GMT
The guy kicked the back of Leads foot as running and then fell. Not sure how the ref gave that. Freekick? Possibly. Never a red though.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 13, 2016 15:59:53 GMT
Same the same last night, as odd as it sounds the Millwall player seemed to dive rather than look to control the ball and shoot, plus Lockyer surely was a covering defender, plus we have the players surrounding the ref. Then the ref pulling out a yellow then swapping it for a red from his other pocket after being surrounded.
Surely if there was any doubt you don't red card an away team's player after just 14 mins, and so ruin the game.
Having said that this is looking a very weak division and there's still no reason why we can't make at least the top 6.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 17:05:08 GMT
That result had virtually nothing to do with the red card. As per usual we had the players back to deal with the situation but didn't. Time and again there will be more players back defending than those attacking but Rovers will still be unable to deal with it. Just watch the goals again. Shocking,amateurish defending,nothing less.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 17:54:07 GMT
Carefully I just be shot down in flames for a similar viewpoint
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 17:56:18 GMT
That result had virtually nothing to do with the red card. As per usual we had the players back to deal with the situation but didn't. Time and again there will be more players back defending than those attacking but Rovers will still be unable to deal with it. Just watch the goals again. Shocking,amateurish defending,nothing less. I know you're playing devil's advocate but we all know it did.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 18:09:26 GMT
The thing is we started off with four defenders and finished with four.we had two defensive is midfielder on the pitch most of the game so it wasn't as though we were weakened in that respect so they should have been able to mark players in and around the box
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 18:18:00 GMT
The thing is we started off with four defenders and finished with four.we had two defensive is midfielder on the pitch most of the game so it wasn't as though we were weakened in that respect so they should have been able to mark players in and around the box The game was fairly balanced until the sending off, both teams having chances. Once Leads went there was a 10 minute spell of momentum for Millwall, where the goal came. From that point you're trying not to concede a second, and after HT you're trying to get back on level terms - which we had a go at. With 10 there's always space on the pitch for the opposition. We were susceptible on the counter attack, and got stretched defensively. An hour of that is always going to lead to mistakes, which it did. It's easy to say, well we had 4 defenders and some of the midfield left, but there's always extra space for the home side. I'd be surprised if anyone who was there yesterday thought it had no impact at all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 18:19:54 GMT
That result had virtually nothing to do with the red card. As per usual we had the players back to deal with the situation but didn't. Time and again there will be more players back defending than those attacking but Rovers will still be unable to deal with it. Just watch the goals again. Shocking,amateurish defending,nothing less. I know you're playing devil's advocate but we all know it did. Watch the goals again. And again. And again. We had extra players back compared to Millwalls attackers. Poor defending again cost us dear. All four goals were down to poor defending.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Nov 13, 2016 18:21:25 GMT
With ten men for 80 minutes of a game a lot of teams, especially away from home will shut up shop. We don't, and I'm glad we don't. Do people really believe the red card didn't play it's part in the result??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 18:25:06 GMT
The thing is we started off with four defenders and finished with four.we had two defensive is midfielder on the pitch most of the game so it wasn't as though we were weakened in that respect so they should have been able to mark players in and around the box I think we are both in the minority here Padstow. We had more defending than Millwall had attacking and still didn't deal with the situation. Something which has happened in the past many times when we have eleven on the pitch. It happens all to often. Players marking fresh air,not picking players up or too weak in the challenge.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 13, 2016 18:32:19 GMT
What's with Millwalls kit? It's the fiftieth anniversary of their long mid-sixties unbeaten home run kit.
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Post by Iliveinbidefordgas on Nov 13, 2016 19:08:59 GMT
Never a red card who knows what would have happened 11v11 my guess would have not been 4 nil!
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Post by badengas on Nov 13, 2016 20:16:14 GMT
With ten men for 80 minutes of a game a lot of teams, especially away from home will shut up shop. We don't, and I'm glad we don't. Do people really believe the red card didn't play it's part in the result?? DC sticking to the attacking mindset in general and I'm happy with this. Goal difference aside, winning say 2 games in 5 would be better than drawing all 5. I wasn't there but agree with many that our defence looks dodgy no matter how many people we get back. We're still going up but have to expect a few bumpy days....... it wouldn't be our Rovers if things were easy.
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Post by moody on Nov 13, 2016 20:19:59 GMT
What's with Millwalls kit? It's the fiftieth anniversary of their long mid-sixties unbeaten home run kit. Indeed. 59 home games without defeat. We were in stripes back then, before going all-white until finally returning to blue tops, white shorts and blue socks.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 13, 2016 22:13:18 GMT
It's the fiftieth anniversary of their long mid-sixties unbeaten home run kit. Indeed. 59 home games without defeat. We were in stripes back then, before going all-white until finally returning to blue tops, white shorts and blue socks. Interesting. What do you make of having gone the opposite direction to us in switching Macron to Errea?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 23:29:14 GMT
The thing is we started off with four defenders and finished with four.we had two defensive is midfielder on the pitch most of the game so it wasn't as though we were weakened in that respect so they should have been able to mark players in and around the box I think we are both in the minority here Padstow. We had more defending than Millwall had attacking and still didn't deal with the situation. Something which has happened in the past many times when we have eleven on the pitch. It happens all to often. Players marking fresh air,not picking players up or too weak in the challenge. the truth surely is a mixture of both playing with 10 men for 77 minutes against a decent team and poor defending. after millwall scored we pressed them and played good football but failed to equalise,once the 2nd goal went in despite a very easy to see foul on lockyer fatigue set in and the farcical 4th goal involved very tired players as you would expect playing a man short for so long. it was poor defending but the red card affected the game beyond any doubt imo
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