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Post by thegasman on Nov 21, 2016 12:29:15 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 21, 2016 13:22:01 GMT
How can a computer programme decide Lines is at risk of an injury but Sincs, who covers virtually every blade of grass wasn't, likewise Browner?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 21, 2016 13:24:40 GMT
How can a computer programme decide Lines is at risk of an injury but Sincs, who covers virtually every blade of grass wasn't, likewise Browner? because its bullsh*t to cover up DC's mistake !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 13:28:22 GMT
I'm not saying that, I simply think we should play our best players in their best positions with the most effective formation. I wont worry if the opposition manager knows how we will setup because our players are capable of winning promotion from this league. Maybe DC had the start vs MK Dons in mind from the away game and setup a bit negatively (eg Clarke and Beard starting together). The 2nd sentence ive marked in bold is pretty much exactly what I would do. You wont win them all but to me that's the best way to play with the players available. DC has the uncanny ability to read the games and change it for the better, but the fact he has to change it for the better tells me we dont setup for games in the right way. I can probably name about 4 games where we have had a good first half. So never mind the fact that DC's approach has gained us B2B promotions, and leaves us handily placed in LG1, lets rip it up and just play 4 4 2. I generally dispair of some people on here....MK Dons looked a decent side, and on balance, I for one was happy with a draw...........but no, despite universally everyone agreeing that a mid table finish this season would be great.......the moment we fail to win a game, you have the usual suspects moaning about making too many changes!!
I would have been quite happy for a midtable finish, but having seen the quality of this league I am raising my own expectations especially as we have some very good players for this level.
Lets be honest MK Dons are near the bottom for a reason, we should be taking the game to them and dictating play not giving away 60% possession and having 2-3 defensive midfielders playing together in a home game.
Yes you cant knock DC given the results over the last 3 seasons, but that doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes.
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Post by bluegas on Nov 21, 2016 13:31:13 GMT
How can a computer programme decide Lines is at risk of an injury but Sincs, who covers virtually every blade of grass wasn't, likewise Browner? because its bullsh*t to cover up DC's mistake ! Aren't you the guy who repairs computers? Or have I got it wrong?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 21, 2016 13:48:40 GMT
because its bullsh*t to cover up DC's mistake ! Aren't you the guy who repairs computers? Or have I got it wrong? That i am ! How can i help you ?
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 21, 2016 13:50:08 GMT
How can a computer programme decide Lines is at risk of an injury but Sincs, who covers virtually every blade of grass wasn't, likewise Browner? By finding patterns.
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Post by tinner on Nov 21, 2016 13:59:21 GMT
So never mind the fact that DC's approach has gained us B2B promotions, and leaves us handily placed in LG1, lets rip it up and just play 4 4 2. I generally dispair of some people on here....MK Dons looked a decent side, and on balance, I for one was happy with a draw...........but no, despite universally everyone agreeing that a mid table finish this season would be great.......the moment we fail to win a game, you have the usual suspects moaning about making too many changes!!
I would have been quite happy for a midtable finish, but having seen the quality of this league I am raising my own expectations especially as we have some very good players for this level.
Lets be honest MK Dons are near the bottom for a reason, we should be taking the game to them and dictating play not giving away 60% possession and having 2-3 defensive midfielders playing together in a home game.
Yes you cant knock DC given the results over the last 3 seasons, but that doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes.
And if we had played with two wingers, and lost 3 0 I am sure you would have moaned at that as well. I do not understand why some on here just fail to grasp that there are more than one team in a match, and the success or not of our performance/formation etc is massively impacted by the opposition. We are Bristol Rovers not Barcelona.......and have achieved success through a combination of hard work/fitness/rotation/skill etc........and yet still that does not seem to satisfy some on here, who just cannot seem to accept that sometimes we will be outplayed/or matched regardless of the players we select. Bottomline we got a point against a decent looking MK Dons team........and perhaps should have snatched it in the end.........so do not see how ths can be classed as DC making a mistake??
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Post by spiess1 on Nov 21, 2016 14:09:26 GMT
You must stand near me, tinner. If Rovers don't win every tackle it's cos they're not trying. Possession of the ball doesn't matter, just "get it forward". Whereupon, "they don't keep the ball". Ad infinitum. Ad nauseam.
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Post by mehewmagic on Nov 21, 2016 14:21:40 GMT
Haven't got time to read the whole thread, but did read the whole of the report via gaschat.
don't think I'll be reading again.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 21, 2016 14:31:42 GMT
So never mind the fact that DC's approach has gained us B2B promotions, and leaves us handily placed in LG1, lets rip it up and just play 4 4 2. I generally dispair of some people on here....MK Dons looked a decent side, and on balance, I for one was happy with a draw...........but no, despite universally everyone agreeing that a mid table finish this season would be great.......the moment we fail to win a game, you have the usual suspects moaning about making too many changes!!
Yes you cant knock DC given the results over the last 3 seasons, but that doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes.
[ Every manager makes mistakes - there isn't a single manager in the history of football who doesn't make mistakes and get it wrong in some games. All you can do is get it right more often than you get it wrong, and no one can argue that DC has done that since he's been here. Which makes calling for us to start 442 every game - when that isn't what's brought us our success - bizarre IMO.
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Post by peterparker on Nov 21, 2016 14:53:43 GMT
How can a computer programme decide Lines is at risk of an injury but Sincs, who covers virtually every blade of grass wasn't, likewise Browner? by using all sorts of algorithms
It's too simple to say why is Lines more of a risk of Injury because he doesn't run as much as Sinclair
Sinclair is obviously fitter. everyone has different physiology, higher VO2 Max etc
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 14:55:24 GMT
I would have been quite happy for a midtable finish, but having seen the quality of this league I am raising my own expectations especially as we have some very good players for this level.
Lets be honest MK Dons are near the bottom for a reason, we should be taking the game to them and dictating play not giving away 60% possession and having 2-3 defensive midfielders playing together in a home game.
Yes you cant knock DC given the results over the last 3 seasons, but that doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes.
And if we had played with two wingers, and lost 3 0 I am sure you would have moaned at that as well. I do not understand why some on here just fail to grasp that there are more than one team in a match, and the success or not of our performance/formation etc is massively impacted by the opposition. We are Bristol Rovers not Barcelona.......and have achieved success through a combination of hard work/fitness/rotation/skill etc........and yet still that does not seem to satisfy some on here, who just cannot seem to accept that sometimes we will be outplayed/or matched regardless of the players we select. Bottomline we got a point against a decent looking MK Dons team........and perhaps should have snatched it in the end.........so do not see how ths can be classed as DC making a mistake?? Yep, I've got to agree with this. It seems as though there are some fans who forget that the managers/coaches of opposition teams should also be given some credit. DC is not the only manager to look at the opposition before deciding his formation/tactics. There are a lot of other good upcoming managers out there. So yes, sometimes DC will be out-thought, and yes, sometimes he will get it wrong, and I'm pretty sure he'd be the first to agree with that. However, it has been proven that he gets it right more often than he gets it wrong. Back-to-back promotions suggest that that is not just my opinion, but fact.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 21, 2016 15:07:15 GMT
Thank god we didn't have this new fangled tech last season, or Browner would have missed the last game. After all he played all the others.
It was a mistake by DC short and simple. If he was worried about burn out, why did he not drop the requisite players from the cup replay?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 15:14:52 GMT
Moaning about a draw home to mk dons ffs yes I was there and yes it wasn't pretty but as long as we stay up this season it's an achievement. Let's get our feet back on the ground here.
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Post by pirate49 on Nov 21, 2016 15:15:19 GMT
Let's hope we can find eleven players fit enough to play our third game in seven days tomorrow. Can we get emergency loan signings?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 15:17:19 GMT
Yes you cant knock DC given the results over the last 3 seasons, but that doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes.
[ Every manager makes mistakes - there isn't a single manager in the history of football who doesn't make mistakes and get it wrong in some games. All you can do is get it right more often than you get it wrong, and no one can argue that DC has done that since he's been here. Which makes calling for us to start 442 every game - when that isn't what's brought us our success - bizarre IMO.
I think a settled formation that most of our team are comfortable with is the best foundation if DC insists on making multiple unforced changes in each game.
I wouldn't normally call for the same formation in most games but when DC is changing the personnel in every game (more than any other season), changing the formation on top of that causes mistakes and we have shipped a lot of goals so far through players out of position etc.
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 21, 2016 15:20:53 GMT
Thank god we didn't have this new fangled tech last season, or Browner would have missed the last game. After all he played all the others. It was a mistake by DC short and simple. If he was worried about burn out, why did he not drop the requisite players from the cup replay? Some players benefit from a break, some players don't. Not that hard, is it?
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 21, 2016 15:23:29 GMT
How can a computer programme decide Lines is at risk of an injury but Sincs, who covers virtually every blade of grass wasn't, likewise Browner? by using all sorts of algorithms
It's too simple to say why is Lines more of a risk of Injury because he doesn't run as much as Sinclair
Sinclair is obviously fitter. everyone has different physiology, higher VO2 Max etc
Rubbish, clearly if every single fan doesn't understand something, having done no testing, no research, and having no experience in the field, then it obviously should be dismissed out of hand.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 15:25:32 GMT
[ Every manager makes mistakes - there isn't a single manager in the history of football who doesn't make mistakes and get it wrong in some games. All you can do is get it right more often than you get it wrong, and no one can argue that DC has done that since he's been here. Which makes calling for us to start 442 every game - when that isn't what's brought us our success - bizarre IMO.
I think a settled formation that most of our team are comfortable with is the best foundation if DC insists on making multiple unforced changes in each game.
I wouldn't normally call for the same formation in most games but when DC is changing the personnel in every game (more than any other season), changing the formation on top of that causes mistakes and we have shipped a lot of goals so far through players out of position etc.
Don't you think playing the same formation for every game would just make us easy pickings for the other managers? If they know how we are going to be set-up, then expect them to make changes to counter-act it. It's not about having a formation that players are 'comfortable with'. It's about having players who have the mental ability to adapt to formation changes at any time.
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