|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 29, 2014 7:20:24 GMT
No insinuation intended. i know nothing ! But if BRFC win the appeal and there is a very good chance of that after what i was told last night, then do Sainsbury have any legs left to stand on ?? And there you go again, who told you what last night? Because unless the Planning Inspector told you well in advance of the decision, I suspect its just another opinion of someone not involved in the decision making process. i was out for a beer with a very good friend who knows a good bit more about the planning process than most people on here and he explained in simple terms i did not understand about the appeal process and who is involved. He was very confident that the appeal would be successful based on the information he was privy to and NO i'm going to state what it is for obvious reasons, even if i understood it So i'm confident the appeal with go through even if you lot are not - that of course if it gets that far. Still we should stay out of Administration for the next 6 weeks |
|
|
|
Post by empirebaypete on Aug 29, 2014 7:21:28 GMT
No insinuation intended. i know nothing ! But if BRFC win the appeal and there is a very good chance of that after what i was told last night, then do Sainsbury have any legs left to stand on ?? Id like to know a good chance based on what exactly 5-12 on a Sunday seems excessive and i would hope in the real world unreasonable to everyone. It has already been rejected, so what can reasonably be done to get it through. Errecting massive fences doesnt seem like it. We all know the area. Imagine a massive lorry rattling past Filton Ave at 5 on a Sunday Morning. I dont want it to fail, just dont see how anyone would find that acceptable You're quite right. To be honest if I lived there I'd rather put up with a load of beer swilling pasite eating yobs every other week, than lorries trundling past my house at all hours. |
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 29, 2014 7:22:34 GMT
Id like to know a good chance based on what exactly 5-12 on a Sunday seems excessive and i would hope in the real world unreasonable to everyone. It has already been rejected, so what can reasonably be done to get it through. Errecting massive fences doesnt seem like it. We all know the area. Imagine a massive lorry rattling past Filton Ave at 5 on a Sunday Morning. I dont want it to fail, just dont see how anyone would find that acceptable You're quite right. To be honest if I lived there I'd rather put up with a load of beer swilling pasite eating yobs every other week, than lorries trundling past my house at all hours. but they are only 8 deliveries a day |
|
|
|
Post by empirebaypete on Aug 29, 2014 7:24:41 GMT
You're quite right. To be honest if I lived there I'd rather put up with a load of beer swilling pasite eating yobs every other week, than lorries trundling past my house at all hours. but they are only 8 deliveries a day I wasn't aware it was only 8 deliveries a day. In which case they should be able to make sure they arrive within the hours already agreed. I would have thought a huge organisation like Sainsburys would be able to arrange that. |
|
|
|
Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 29, 2014 7:25:40 GMT
The only way we can win is to combine our powers like the good old days MODS UNITE! (Roverdrive is the pink one)  |
|
|
|
Post by peterparker on Aug 29, 2014 7:30:31 GMT
You're quite right. To be honest if I lived there I'd rather put up with a load of beer swilling pasite eating yobs every other week, than lorries trundling past my house at all hours. but they are only 8 deliveries a day And that is irrelevant. The contract says 5-12. They may not make the first delivery til 7, but as long as the potential for a 5 delivery is there which is what is being asked for, how could anyone vote that reasonable? |
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Aug 29, 2014 7:31:42 GMT
And there you go again, who told you what last night? Because unless the Planning Inspector told you well in advance of the decision, I suspect its just another opinion of someone not involved in the decision making process. i was out for a beer with a very good friend who knows a good bit more about the planning process than most people on here and he explained in simple terms i did not understand about the appeal process and who is involved. He was very confident that the appeal would be successful based on the information he was privy to and NO i'm going to state what it is for obvious reasons, even if i understood it So i'm confident the appeal with go through even if you lot are not - that of course if it gets that far. Still we should stay out of Administration for the next 6 weeks Didn't Tesco's lose a similar appeal? Also aren't Trash claiming the delivery times sort would be unpresidented in Bristol? What do you mean by "if it gets that far" as a surely BCC aren't going to cave in? Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk |
|
|
|
Post by womble on Aug 29, 2014 7:37:58 GMT
We still seem to have the redevelopment of the Mem as a backup plan, just a pity we don't have Pantsdown's deep pockets to now pay for it! Although having seen Bradford's rise from the bottom of Div 2 while we've been floundering I do wonder why we ever needed Sainsbury's & the UWE in the first place. We still have planning for the Mem? That does surprise me. Actually it's run out. It should in theory (!) be relatively straightforward to re-new it if we needed to. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 7:40:50 GMT
And there you go again, who told you what last night? Because unless the Planning Inspector told you well in advance of the decision, I suspect its just another opinion of someone not involved in the decision making process. i was out for a beer with a very good friend who knows a good bit more about the planning process than most people on here and he explained in simple terms i did not understand about the appeal process and who is involved. He was very confident that the appeal would be successful based on the information he was privy to and NO i'm going to state what it is for obvious reasons, even if i understood it So i'm confident the appeal with go through even if you lot are not - that of course if it gets that far. Still we should stay out of Administration for the next 6 weeks The problem with stuff like this is that we all have friends with skills and knowledge. Personally I steer clear of quoting them, rather form my own opinion based upon the facts in the public domain. I could quote personal experience, having been a director of a company that was intimately involved with a stadium redevelopment in professional rugby not a million miles from Bristol whose economic scale was much greater than the UWE and was landlocked in local housing. But I wont, the circumstances were different, the planning authority different and the challenges, not least financing, entirely different. But I will say one thing. As advisors to that BoD we never shrank from the truth, ran the public consultation and told the public the truth as well. Funnily enough a version of the original plan was built, without half the bollox that is going on here. Chats with mates down the pub who have a job down the local council is just bollox. And posting it up, just deflects from the real issue which is managerial oversight of BRFC. We all make mistakes, the first one is exactly that, a mistake. To repeat it is careless. Then to do it again is incompetent. Where are they on that scale? 12-15? Enough Henbury, I admire your propensity to point out nonsense, but this repeated references to opinions from within circles who have no involvement ( I presume) is not helpful. Looking forward to that pint Les |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 8:18:16 GMT
And there you go again, who told you what last night? Because unless the Planning Inspector told you well in advance of the decision, I suspect its just another opinion of someone not involved in the decision making process. i was out for a beer with a very good friend who knows a good bit more about the planning process than most people on here and he explained in simple terms i did not understand about the appeal process and who is involved. He was very confident that the appeal would be successful based on the information he was privy to and NO i'm going to state what it is for obvious reasons, even if i understood it So i'm confident the appeal with go through even if you lot are not - that of course if it gets that far. Still we should stay out of Administration for the next 6 weeks There is next to no chance of administration as it would involve directors writing off around £5.5m of personal debt. Only only significant creditor is the mortgage company. |
|
|
|
Post by Mancgas has left the building on Aug 29, 2014 8:55:05 GMT
Forget the detail - that will work itself out - I just care about what our leader assured fans to be the case
Just focus on whether the chairman could reasonably describe this contract as water tight, given they've been on warning for over a year that there is a clause in the sale contract which doesnt match the planning consent received and the buyer pointed that breach out, and 6 months ago said they wanted out verbally and in writing.
Water tight yes/ no?
|
|
|
|
Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 29, 2014 9:00:02 GMT
Forget the detail - that will work itself out - I just care about what our leader assured fans to be the case Just focus on whether the chairman could reasonably describe this contract as water tight, given they've been on warning for over a year that there is a clause in the sale contract which doesnt match the planning consent received and the buyer pointed that breach out, and 6 months ago said they wanted out verbally and in writing. Water tight yes/ no? so its not watertight. So he used a bad word should we remove him and his money and push us closer to folding as a result? In my opinion, no. So the stadium plan failed. We are no worse off stadium wise than we were and it was a nice idea if it wasn't for trash. I will never understand how people use the stadium thing to push the higgs lynch agenda. That's just me. I'm sure I'm the minority. |
|
|
|
Post by Quartermaster on Aug 29, 2014 9:01:08 GMT
I wasn't aware it was only 8 deliveries a day. In which case they should be able to make sure they arrive within the hours already agreed. I would have thought a huge organisation like Sainsburys would be able to arrange that. I'm sure they can arrange 8 deliveries in the hours agreed with no problem, but if all Sainsburys have to do to get out of building a store they don't want is to pretend this is a detail that makes the project unfeasible... |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 9:10:53 GMT
Forget the detail - that will work itself out - I just care about what our leader assured fans to be the case Just focus on whether the chairman could reasonably describe this contract as water tight, given they've been on warning for over a year that there is a clause in the sale contract which doesnt match the planning consent received and the buyer pointed that breach out, and 6 months ago said they wanted out verbally and in writing. Water tight yes/ no? so its not watertight. So he used a bad word should we remove him and his money and push us closer to folding as a result? In my opinion, no. So the stadium plan failed. We are no worse off stadium wise than we were and it was a nice idea if it wasn't for trash. I will never understand how people use the stadium thing to push the higgs lynch agenda. That's just me. I'm sure I'm the minority. Nobody is. Its just this on top of everything else. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 9:31:08 GMT
Ok, so how do we actually go about removing a Director who is owed a lot of money by the club and who's money is keeping us going?
We would need enough cash to pay him off and some working capital.
We'd also need the money to buy out the mem.
So...
5 million debts
Plus say 1 million to run us for a year
Plus 12 million for the Mem.
Anyone got a spare 18M down the back of the sofa?
Or are my sums wrong?
I'm only guessing based on the stuff written on here.
|
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 29, 2014 9:33:47 GMT
Forget the detail - that will work itself out - I just care about what our leader assured fans to be the case Just focus on whether the chairman could reasonably describe this contract as water tight, given they've been on warning for over a year that there is a clause in the sale contract which doesnt match the planning consent received and the buyer pointed that breach out, and 6 months ago said they wanted out verbally and in writing. Water tight yes/ no? so its not watertight. So he used a bad word should we remove him and his money and push us closer to folding as a result? In my opinion, no. So the stadium plan failed. We are no worse off stadium wise than we were and it was a nice idea if it wasn't for trash. I will never understand how people use the stadium thing to push the higgs lynch agenda. That's just me. I'm sure I'm the minority. i think 95% of Rovers fans support this and its just the "chosen few" who know better |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 9:33:54 GMT
I think I may have accidently deleted someones post.
Very sorry.
|
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 29, 2014 9:35:51 GMT
I think I may have accidently deleted someones post. Very sorry. bad boy take a 100 lines and a jolly good spanking from RAS |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 9:40:29 GMT
I think I may have accidently deleted someones post. Very sorry. It was a crucial post from Nick Higgs, explaining everything. Jesus, how could you |
|
|
|
Post by peterparker on Aug 29, 2014 9:51:13 GMT
so its not watertight. So he used a bad word should we remove him and his money and push us closer to folding as a result? In my opinion, no. So the stadium plan failed. We are no worse off stadium wise than we were and it was a nice idea if it wasn't for trash. I will never understand how people use the stadium thing to push the higgs lynch agenda. That's just me. I'm sure I'm the minority. i think 95% of Rovers fans support this and its just the "chosen few" who know better I was chatting to someone in the bar about the NH interview before last weeks game. Ignoring the stadium stuff since, he was far from impressed with the chairman who has presided over unprecedented failure at BRFC Why should we all feel sorry for an apparent succesful multi millionaire businessman who has thrown good money after bad due to poor management? |
|
