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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 9:36:36 GMT
Sainsbury can only make one appeal from the high court The actual court case could be a 1 or 2 away, an appeal another year, our only real hope is Sainsbury's due the decent thing and make a reasonable compo offer now. I just can't understand why NH didn't admit there were major problems on 20men's show as the UWE is clearly dead in the water. It is clearly dead in the water as they have the financial clout to drag this out for years or until the club tun iut of money to fight it. |
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Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 26, 2014 9:36:54 GMT
Sainsbury can only make one appeal from the high court The actual court case could be a 1 or 2 away, an appeal another year, our only real hope is Sainsbury's due the decent thing and make a reasonable compo offer now. I just can't understand why NH didn't admit there were major problems on 20men's show as the UWE is clearly dead in the water. likely because he cant. As is mentioned, he is legally bound not to say anything. Anything he might have said could have compromised any legal action so best not to say anything. Cannot blame him for that. Its not lies its protecting the interests of our club. |
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Post by newmarketgas on Aug 26, 2014 9:40:39 GMT
Dinsdale, it was not a dig, it was just pointing out the same difference you said you could see, it seems you might have just tried to cause an argument with a little fib !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 9:42:55 GMT
Dinsdale, it was not a dig, it was just pointing out the same difference you said you could see, it seems you might have just tried to cause an argument with a little fib ! Thats how i read it and on twiter |
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Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 26, 2014 9:42:55 GMT
Its really interesting how differently this news is being viewed accros the different platforms. Twitter and the I.F largely reporting on the lies being told by Higgs and on here its more of a poor Higgs reaction. Im genuinely amazed how differently people view things as we are all Gasheads. This isn't a dig and i hope we can discuss this sensibly. That's completely untrue - I've just read the IF thread and very, very few are blaming Higgs - just a couple of posters. The overwhelming theme is anger/frustration at Sainsburys. hmmmmmm indeed. |
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Post by CheshireGas on Aug 26, 2014 9:45:39 GMT
What else did you expect Dinsdale ? If Mr Higgs gave everyone from the IF £100, they would want £200, where as most on here would say thank you. Edit ~ just seen new posts! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 10:03:41 GMT
Well it was pretty evident from the start that the 'change of delivery hours' stuff from Sainsbury's was bollocks, that isn't a valid reason to stop the build of a £30million supermarket. Sainsbury's have watered it up the wall a little bit, it's almost as if they timed their 'we want out' attitude to coincide with us finally beating TRASH.
Maybe one silver lining from this is that we may just get enough compensation to redevelop the Mem, a la the plans from 2006.
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Post by mumbles on Aug 26, 2014 10:22:47 GMT
Trash probably knew that the new CEO at Sainsbury's would have a different view to large supermarkets funding sports stadiums and delayed it long enough for the rot to set in. Backs against the wall time, but we're good at that. Time to re-ignite the Twerton spirit and get the club back into the league. I wonder if Trash's mystery backer might have been Sainsburys themselves? What a waste of time that whole farce was then. What next, sell the men to a developer and build a smaller stadium at UWE with a massive car park?, buy and redevelop Twerton and ground share with Bath? Stay at a run down Mem? Lots of options I guess. One things for certain though, I won't be buying anything from Sainsburys again and the nectar card has just gone in the bin. Now to inform them on twitter. |
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Post by lulworthgas on Aug 26, 2014 10:35:56 GMT
The club didn't release this story, I wonder if an ex director did, just to put us out of our misery!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 10:37:05 GMT
Totally gutted by this but not really all that surprised.I feel sorry for NH after all the money he has thrown around and all of his hard work and the effort he has put into this project and to then be dumped on by these time wasters.
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Post by inee on Aug 26, 2014 10:37:29 GMT
It's something i've thought about too with regards to trash, surely they will have too submit accounts soon and i thought that large donations had to be declared now(i may be totally wrong about this).
time will tell.
I'm also very surprised at the figures being quoted, i had a million in my mind for some reason, problem is like everything else we've been here before so pished off but not entirely shocked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 10:42:05 GMT
Dinsdale, it was not a dig, it was just pointing out the same difference you said you could see, it seems you might have just tried to cause an argument with a little fib ! Thats how i read it and on twiter Not another this or that forum is the holier, please. Lets look at this issue with the benefit of hindsight, now. Some of us believed, had been led to believe, that this project was at best on life support, probably dead, for some months. We understood that Sainsburys wanted out. We did not know why, but hazard a guess at the pressure the market sector they operate in has come under. This kind of leaked because NH started using phrases like "water tight contract", which obviously suggested that he was referring to the contract in a debate with Sainsburys. If NH was entering into a legal battle with Sainsburys then I completely get the need to not say anything that might prejudice his case. And, of course, personally I can see nothing to allocate blame to NH over this action by Sainsburys. But there is a problem with him, as the Chairman and leader of this club, organisation. Going back, he was directly responsible for the communications over the move to Cheltenham He has presided over no apparent improvement whatsoever in the operational finances of the club, after being instrumental to the proposals that were aimed at doing exactly that being blocked, in 2006. I understand, and it has been reported elsewhere, that as Chairman the board has been hoplessly split for many months. He has confirmed that they meet rarely. The PR, communication and general brand degredation (santas grotto anyone, Grimsby game ops fiasco?) has been horrendeous under his leadership. I do not need to comment on what has happened on the field of play. So now we know this project is most likely dead, a project that was key to the defense of him remaining as chairman, should he how now step aside? |
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Post by lulworthgas on Aug 26, 2014 10:42:45 GMT
Is imagine in the very near future uwe will sever ties with the club and that will be the final nail to a new stadium being built.
There will never be an opportunity like this again as people don't often give land away for free, especially in such a good location.
Looks like we will be staying at the mem with it's reduced footprint restricting the type of growth we could have had with the uwe.
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Post by Quartermaster on Aug 26, 2014 10:54:15 GMT
So now we know this project is most likely dead, a project that was key to the defense of him remaining as chairman, should he how now step aside? I was thinking the same. UWE was (I think I'm finally comfortable with the past tense on this project) to be Higgs legacy, the only positive in a very poor reign that has seen us slide on all fronts. Take this out of the equation and there's nothing left. Time for a change at the top whether from inside or outside. Accept that sainsburys don't see the site as viable, presumably no other supermarket will either and plan again. Use whatever compensation we get to help clear debts. Perhaps that will further increase our attractiveness to new investment. Stick a new ground on the mem with no parking (just for trash and the locals) or perhaps let it go for housing and build something more modest elsewhere. Something more befitting our level so we can build the club up sensibly. Never a dull moment! Onwards! |
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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Aug 26, 2014 10:59:26 GMT
Ben " The Bastard" Littman ben.littman@sainsburys.co.uk  |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 26, 2014 11:01:47 GMT
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Post by Captain Jayho on Aug 26, 2014 11:02:15 GMT
If the compensation could clear the club debts and pay back the current directors then they would be far more disposed to leaving their positions I assume. Not sure the compensation would be anywhere near that amount but who knows. The whole thing is bloody tragic and I can't help feeling a bit sorry for Nick Higgs no matter how much of a pig's ear he has or hasn't made of the project.
On a brighter note can we simply revert to the Amtrak distribution centre proposal for the site from all those years ago? We can then let TRASH and ROSE duke it out on Horfield Common to see who gets the glory of launching the next Judicial Review.
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Post by lincsblue on Aug 26, 2014 11:02:37 GMT
Its really interesting how differently this news is being viewed accros the different platforms. Twitter and the I.F largely reporting on the lies being told by Higgs and on here its more of a poor Higgs reaction. Im genuinely amazed how differently people view things as we are all Gasheads. This isn't a dig and i hope we can discuss this sensibly. That's completely untrue - I've just read the IF thread and very, very few are blaming Higgs - just a couple of posters. The overwhelming theme is anger/frustration at Sainsburys. Nobody said they were blaming Higgs on the IF, just that his lying was being spoken of |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Aug 26, 2014 11:07:22 GMT
That's completely untrue - I've just read the IF thread and very, very few are blaming Higgs - just a couple of posters. The overwhelming theme is anger/frustration at Sainsburys. Nobody said they were blaming Higgs on the IF, just that his lying was being spoken of But surely he was bound by confidentiality? All seems very convenient that Dunford wanted to leave but they asked him not too. Then he eventually does and then barely a week later this comes out. If anyone officially connected to either side had said it they could scupper the whole case. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 26, 2014 11:08:27 GMT
IMO Nick Higgs has messed up big time; he is in an untenable position, with totally no credibility on or off the field, he has been either very unlucky or incompetent. This whole fiasco has to stop now. We need to quite simply develop what is ours, and forget about new stadiums, and most importantly try and get back out of the conference. I am absolutely gutted. UTG
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