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Post by mftc on May 29, 2017 17:05:08 GMT
Not talking politics, but when he first broke into the side he played there and looked quality.
Maybe a move to that position may help him? He would win lots of headers against most full backs rather than hulking centre backs, he has pace, can cross ok, would have Browner giving him guidance and could cut in to have a pop at goal himself.
His hold up play with back to goal is not his best aspect to his game but on the left this would probably happen less than in the middle and as only has to keep to the wings (or drift in the box) it should be easier for him.
And we could get another forward (Billy Lee or Eion Doyle?). Kee is a natural goalscorer with a good goals ratio in league two. Untried higher up but then so was Taylor. Doyle just had a bad move (one year left on contract and not first choice, so would probably not be that expensive. I think either would do well at the Gas.
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Post by Fetch on May 29, 2017 17:14:15 GMT
When Ellis broke into the team he was a much lighter, quicker player. He was useful on the left mainly because of his pace. I believe Ward wanted him to bulk up over the summer and become a bit stronger on the ball, but in doing so he lost a lot of that page and we saw him become a striker under DC.
I'm not sure he can really go back to how he was, his pace isn't at that level, and although he's a good crosser of the ball I'm unconvinced he could do a consistent job there personally.
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Post by madgas on May 29, 2017 17:21:26 GMT
When Ellis broke into the team he was a much lighter, quicker player. He was useful on the left mainly because of his pace. I believe Ward wanted him to bulk up over the summer and become a bit stronger on the ball, but in doing so he lost a lot of that page and we saw him become a striker under DC. I'm not sure he can really go back to how he was, his pace isn't at that level, and although he's a good crosser of the ball I'm unconvinced he could do a consistent job there personally. Good assessment. Would add- he's also not a bad striker. Happy for him to remain upfront. |
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Post by Snoop Dogg on May 29, 2017 17:22:55 GMT
I'd rather he didn't sign.
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Post by whoblue on May 29, 2017 17:48:15 GMT
When Ellis broke into the team he was a much lighter, quicker player. He was useful on the left mainly because of his pace. I believe Ward wanted him to bulk up over the summer and become a bit stronger on the ball, but in doing so he lost a lot of that page and we saw him become a striker under DC. I'm not sure he can really go back to how he was, his pace isn't at that level, and although he's a good crosser of the ball I'm unconvinced he could do a consistent job there personally. Good assessment. Would add- he's also not a bad striker. Happy for him to remain upfront. That's your assessment. Would add- he's also not a striker. Happy for him to leave this summer. There you go.. fixed that for you. |
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Post by spiess1 on May 29, 2017 17:49:28 GMT
Last seen on the left wing gifting Scunthorpe's vital goal.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 18:06:28 GMT
Wonder of Ellis will be here next season as he's not signed yet perhaps listening to offers? That said he'll cost anyone signing him as there would need to be a compensation payment.
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Post by Gas_Quarters on May 29, 2017 19:58:16 GMT
Not talking politics, but when he first broke into the side he played there and looked quality. Maybe a move to that position may help him? He would win lots of headers against most full backs rather than hulking centre backs, he has pace, can cross ok, would have Browner giving him guidance and could cut in to have a pop at goal himself. His hold up play with back to goal is not his best aspect to his game but on the left this would probably happen less than in the middle and as only has to keep to the wings (or drift in the box) it should be easier for him. And we could get another forward (Billy Lee or Eion Doyle?). Kee is a natural goalscorer with a good goals ratio in league two. Untried higher up but then so was Taylor. Doyle just had a bad move (one year left on contract and not first choice, so would probably not be that expensive. I think either would do well at the Gas. Not a bad idea. I would rather us sign a quality left winger who is an out and out winger but if we don't get one or we get some injuries then it might be worth a try. I'm not sure if I'd have an awful lot of confidence in him keeping concentration and doing his defensive duties consistently though. And I would also agree with Fetch that he is not as quick as he was when he first came on the scene as a teenager. I agree with what you say about him winning balls in the air. I can't imagine many (if any) fullbacks would beat him to a header. It would be a bit like when we had Monkhouse on the left wing. He was always the target from goal kicks because he used to win everything in the air against his marker. It also gives you an extra header of the ball when it comes to set pieces, both attacking and defending, if you have a target-man type winger as well as a target-man up top. UTG! |
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Post by pudseygas on May 29, 2017 20:17:45 GMT
League 1 is a step too far I feel. Did great in the conference run in but it's time to move on.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 20:29:22 GMT
League 1 is a step too far I feel. Did great in the conference run in but it's time to move on. Tbf he was getting pelters in the conference either side of every goal. Our mob have a real problem when it comes to grudges/loyalty and suchlike. |
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Post by alvestongas on May 29, 2017 20:41:33 GMT
Ellis still has a lot to offer Rovers at L1 level. Not quite sure why there is an Easter love in when his 2+ years have been a real let down & netted just 12 goals yet Ellis is hounded for scoring 32 goals in the last 3 seasons.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 22:19:11 GMT
I thought ellis was decent last season as a striker and very much hope he signs his contract offer.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 22:31:51 GMT
Moving him to the left is an option that should be looked at . Wingers do not have to have lightening speed always besides he is quick enough.
I seem to recall a mr Mehew doing pretty well when moved out wide as has Billy Bodin.
Most fullbacks tend to be the smaller players on the pitch so to have a tall player at the back stick on crosses is certainly an advantage.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 23:15:37 GMT
Moving him to the left is an option that should be looked at . Wingers do not have to have lightening speed always besides he is quick enough. I seem to recall a mr Mehew doing pretty well when moved out wide as has Billy Bodin. Most fullbacks tend to be the smaller players on the pitch so to have a tall player at the back stick on crosses is certainly an advantage. At the start of the conference season dc made it quite clear he didnt see ellis as a winger,only as a striker and what an inspired decision it has proved to be,3 good seasons for the team and player and among the goals right the way through. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 30, 2017 5:11:17 GMT
League 1 is a step too far I feel. Did great in the conference run in but it's time to move on. I find it hard to agree with this. As inconsistent as he is, he is good enough at this level. He was probably our best player at Stamford Bridge so it is not a question of how good he is, it is just sorting out his inconsistency. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 30, 2017 5:53:03 GMT
League 1 is a step too far I feel. Did great in the conference run in but it's time to move on. Tbf he was getting pelters in the conference either side of every goal. Our mob have a real problem when it comes to grudges/loyalty and suchlike. Ellis is very loyal and rarely misses a C*ty game when he's able. People seem to forget this. Trololol |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on May 30, 2017 6:37:43 GMT
League 1 is a step too far I feel. Did great in the conference run in but it's time to move on. I find it hard to agree with this. As inconsistent as he is, he is good enough at this level. He was probably our best player at Stamford Bridge so it is not a question of how good he is, it is just sorting out his inconsistency. In fairness, how many times do you see players raise their game to new levels and have an absolute blinder against a massive team in a one-off cup tie? Not sure that's much to go off, really. Having said that, I do agree Ellis has potential and that consistency is the key for him. But doubtful as to whether he'll ever go onto realise his full potential while at Rovers. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 30, 2017 7:26:37 GMT
I find it hard to agree with this. As inconsistent as he is, he is good enough at this level. He was probably our best player at Stamford Bridge so it is not a question of how good he is, it is just sorting out his inconsistency. In fairness, how many times do you see players raise their game to new levels and have an absolute blinder against a massive team in a one-off cup tie? Not sure that's much to go off, really. Having said that, I do agree Ellis has potential and that consistency is the key for him. But doubtful as to whether he'll ever go onto realise his full potential while at Rovers. No, but he has has good other games other than that too. That was clearly just an example against a top team. The doubts will always be there whilst he remains inconsistent but I haven't given up on him yet. I just really want to see him properly kick on one season. Maybe next season will be his year... |
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Post by Marshy on May 30, 2017 10:12:02 GMT
Ellis reminds me of the UWE, both have great potential but nothing has actually happened yet with both of them!
Frustrating isn't it?
Plus they are both giving me the shits!
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Post by pirate on May 30, 2017 10:36:53 GMT
Ellis seems like a confidence player to me. He has all the attributes to be a Championship level striker, is still young and should keep improving with experience. I think if he were to leave we could end up regretting it in the long run.
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