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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 19:09:22 GMT
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Post by LJG on Jun 26, 2017 19:10:35 GMT
200,000 homes per year will not even cover what is needed for new immigrants. Certainly something which generally gets ignored when discussing housing, health and schooling. Net migration has been at about the 300,000 mark for the last couple of years. I find it baffling that politicians talk of a "housing crisis" an "NHS crisis" and a "classroom size crisis" and yet none seem to have linked the increased pressure on services to population increase. I've taken to describing the leak under my kitchen sink as a "bucket crisis". |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 19:28:11 GMT
200,000 homes per year will not even cover what is needed for new immigrants. Certainly something which generally gets ignored when discussing housing, health and schooling. Net migration has been at about the 300,000 mark for the last couple of years. I find it baffling that politicians talk of a "housing crisis" an "NHS crisis" and a "classroom size crisis" and yet none seem to have linked the increased pressure on services to population increase. I've taken to describing the leak under my kitchen sink as a "bucket crisis". Because to even bring this subject up will get you labelled as a 'racist'.......yet it is the truth. |
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Post by pirate on Jun 26, 2017 21:06:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 21:45:11 GMT
In 1979 we built 400,000 homes. 200,000 of which were built by local authorities.
We need the same level of investment now, regardless of where the supply of human capital originates from.
I see the usual suspects are feeding out the same "one side of the coin" arguments to satisfy their own prejudice.
Jesus Christ
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 5:33:01 GMT
There was a government change in 79 and when did the baby boom thing become serious?
If the underlying issue is the 2 main parties, you are going to see a debate with bias from the participants.
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 27, 2017 11:04:16 GMT
When people get the idea that they do not have to work as hard because the other half is going to take care of them (make up the shortfall), and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work hard for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation. Socialist idealogy is a fantastic dream, but sadly as proved over many many attempts just doesn't work. Undoubtably.
But on the other side of the coin, having no fall-back position stifles innovation, and leads to social issues. There is a balance to be had.
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Post by inee on Jun 29, 2017 13:37:58 GMT
Certainly something which generally gets ignored when discussing housing, health and schooling. Net migration has been at about the 300,000 mark for the last couple of years. I find it baffling that politicians talk of a "housing crisis" an "NHS crisis" and a "classroom size crisis" and yet none seem to have linked the increased pressure on services to population increase. I've taken to describing the leak under my kitchen sink as a "bucket crisis". Because to even bring this subject up will get you labelled as a 'racist'.......yet it is the truth. nail head etc , the answer as i said before is to close the borders for a few years round up and deport those who shouldnt be here, i often wonder if we did this would there be a housing crisis i suspect we would have a surplus of housing, i also feel we should become more like australia, canada when dealing with immigration ,no job offer go home(although this government are making strides into this as long as they hold their nerve) , criminal record pish off home ,and the bollocks refugee sh**e, let em in sure however once the danger has passed send em back, or to put it simpler how many commit crime over here then get to stay ,how would you feel if there was an enforcer/torturer from one of those regimes walking your streets who also committed a crime over here but gets to stay as he might get targeted at home. Get this country in order then reopen the borders to those who are willing to intergrate |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 5:17:58 GMT
Because to even bring this subject up will get you labelled as a 'racist'.......yet it is the truth. nail head etc , the answer as i said before is to close the borders for a few years round up and deport those who shouldnt be here, i often wonder if we did this would there be a housing crisis i suspect we would have a surplus of housing, i also feel we should become more like australia, canada when dealing with immigration ,no job offer go home(although this government are making strides into this as long as they hold their nerve) , criminal record pish off home ,and the bollocks refugee sh**e, let em in sure however once the danger has passed send em back, or to put it simpler how many commit crime over here then get to stay ,how would you feel if there was an enforcer/torturer from one of those regimes walking your streets who also committed a crime over here but gets to stay as he might get targeted at home. Get this country in order then reopen the borders to those who are willing to intergrate Laugh a minute this. How did we feel after Croke Park, or the Peterloo massacre? Or 1926? Or 2003? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 6:00:30 GMT
nail head etc , the answer as i said before is to close the borders for a few years round up and deport those who shouldnt be here, i often wonder if we did this would there be a housing crisis i suspect we would have a surplus of housing, i also feel we should become more like australia, canada when dealing with immigration ,no job offer go home(although this government are making strides into this as long as they hold their nerve) , criminal record pish off home ,and the bollocks refugee sh**e, let em in sure however once the danger has passed send em back, or to put it simpler how many commit crime over here then get to stay ,how would you feel if there was an enforcer/torturer from one of those regimes walking your streets who also committed a crime over here but gets to stay as he might get targeted at home. Get this country in order then reopen the borders to those who are willing to intergrate Laugh a minute this. How did we feel after Croke Park, or the Peterloo massacre? Or 1926? Or 2003? What on earth are you wittering on about now? |
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Post by William Wilson on Jun 30, 2017 6:51:29 GMT
Laugh a minute this. How did we feel after Croke Park, or the Peterloo massacre? Or 1926? Or 2003? What on earth are you wittering on about now? I fear he`s not been taking the medication, Nurse Ratched prescribes for him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 6:58:06 GMT
"how would you feel if there was an enforcer/torturer from one of those regimes walking your streets"
I was quoting Inee, and referenced incidents from our own Government
Sorry if that lost you a bit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 7:17:17 GMT
"how would you feel if there was an enforcer/torturer from one of those regimes walking your streets" I was quoting Inee, and referenced incidents from our own Government Sorry if that lost you a bit I don't think something that happened in 1819 can really be blamed on 'our own government'. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 8:23:46 GMT
"how would you feel if there was an enforcer/torturer from one of those regimes walking your streets" I was quoting Inee, and referenced incidents from our own Government Sorry if that lost you a bit I don't think something that happened in 1819 can really be blamed on 'our own government'. whatever the dates they were walking amongst us |
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Post by inee on Jun 30, 2017 10:25:29 GMT
nail head etc , the answer as i said before is to close the borders for a few years round up and deport those who shouldnt be here, i often wonder if we did this would there be a housing crisis i suspect we would have a surplus of housing, i also feel we should become more like australia, canada when dealing with immigration ,no job offer go home(although this government are making strides into this as long as they hold their nerve) , criminal record pish off home ,and the bollocks refugee sh**e, let em in sure however once the danger has passed send em back, or to put it simpler how many commit crime over here then get to stay ,how would you feel if there was an enforcer/torturer from one of those regimes walking your streets who also committed a crime over here but gets to stay as he might get targeted at home. Get this country in order then reopen the borders to those who are willing to intergrate Laugh a minute this. How did we feel after Croke Park, or the Peterloo massacre? Or 1926? Or 2003? SO you don't agree with sorting the people born n bred or living here legally first, if everyone whose here either illegally or without work or their home country is stable whats wrong with sending them home, the savings to this country would be phenomenal, whats wrong with instigating tougher immigration laws no jobless ,no criminals like they do in canada and australia. The torturer is a well known case and living in bristol, who committed crime here and wasn't deported , why should people like that be allowed to stay over here. i was illustrating some of the types of people we welcome here , croke park ,what you mean the ira murder of several intelligence officers and the later irish police opening fire on the crowd, the only thing the British Army did that day was to fire over the heads of the people fleeing in an attempt to bring them under control, not too sure what your getting at there. Peterloo was wrong by today's standards, if it had not occurred would you now have the right to vote or would unions have arisen, imo yes it was wrong for the murders and for the creation of unions  1926 i assume you mean the miners strike that turn into a general strike which the unions never won 2003 the beginning of your war criminal hero,my feelings on this are clear enough |
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Post by baggins on Jun 30, 2017 10:28:39 GMT
Laugh a minute this. How did we feel after Croke Park, or the Peterloo massacre? Or 1926? Or 2003? SO you don't agree with sorting the people born n bred or living here legally first, if everyone whose here either illegally or without work or their home country is stable whats wrong with sending them home, the savings to this country would be phenomenal, whats wrong with instigating tougher immigration laws no jobless ,no criminals like they do in canada and australia. The torturer is a well known case and living in bristol, who committed crime here and wasn't deported , why should people like that be allowed to stay over here. i was illustrating some of the types of people we welcome here , croke park ,what you mean the ira murder of several intelligence officers and the later irish police opening fire on the crowd, the only thing the British Army did that day was to fire over the heads of the people fleeing in an attempt to bring them under control, not too sure what your getting at there. Peterloo was wrong by today's standards, if it had not occurred would you now have the right to vote or would unions have arisen, imo yes it was wrong for the murders and for the creation of unions 1926 i assume you mean the miners strike that turn into a general strike which the unions never won 2003 the beginning of your war criminal hero,my feelings on this are clear enough How do you find the illegal immigrants and how do you know where their home is? |
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Post by inee on Jun 30, 2017 10:39:13 GMT
Many are already known to the police, the idiot judges then release them on bail only for them to disappear again till they next get caught.
Quite a few get taken off the streets daily some detained, some released.
Many from the eu but we can't get rid of them just yet
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Post by baggins on Jun 30, 2017 10:48:26 GMT
Many are already known to the police, the idiot judges then release them on bail only for them to disappear again till they next get caught. Quite a few get taken off the streets daily some detained, some released. Many from the eu but we can't get rid of them just yet We'd find them easier if we had to carry id cards? |
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Post by inee on Jun 30, 2017 10:56:02 GMT
Sorry but that argument doesn't wash ,next you will be telling me im an active criminal because i dont want or never will carry one.
How would you catch more by having id, would you stop everyone on the street for a week or so to catch people ,i rather suspect that no more would be caught than are now
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Post by baggins on Jun 30, 2017 11:02:23 GMT
Sorry but that argument doesn't wash ,next you will be telling me im an active criminal because i dont want or never will carry one. How would you catch more by having id, would you stop everyone on the street for a week or so to catch people ,i rather suspect that no more would be caught than are now No no, not suggestion that because you don't want one you're up to no good, but if you had to carry one it would surely help with identifying whether your here legitimately? How are they finding the illegals now? |
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